Must God be good?

[attofishpi]

On the contrary, you have offered a great reason why the answer is no.

Please, do extrapolate your reasoning.

Haha. No, no one should ever do that. Not on a philosophy web site!!

Reasoning is the backbone to philosophy, so in your case where you CAN'T REASON for what you have stated, you shouldn't even be here.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Please, do extrapolate your reasoning.

Haha. No, no one should ever do that. Not on a philosophy web site!!

Reasoning is the backbone to philosophy, so in your case where you CAN'T REASON for what you have stated, you shouldn't even be here.

I'm beginning to feel sorry for you.

[artisticsolution]

As you may know, I'm a dystheist, meaning I don't think God is good. It easily explains evil and suffering in the world, and why I am at odds with his plans, and creation.

You believe in God only an evil God? Do you believe in a Devil? Do you believe in good an any shape or form or is all evil to you?

It just seems to me, that if there is Bad then there has to be 'good'. Or else there would be nothing to judge 'bad' by. So, who takes the place of Good in your eyes? Anyone or thing? Or there is no good?

In the Abrahamic sense, the God they figure good still contains all. They just emphasize the good. I take the opposite approach, and emphasize the other. Is that clearer?

Yes, that is what I thought you were doing...I just wanted to make sure. So black is white and white is black? What I asking you is...what is Good?

[Greatest I am]

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Good and evil are subjective are they not?

That would mean that we should all answer that good is whatever we individually like and evil is whatever we do not individually like.

Think S & M and how their view of good and evil, while still valid to them, would not look like what most would say.

Regards
DL

[Dalek Prime]

Yes, that is what I thought you were doing...I just wanted to make sure. So black is white and white is black? What I asking you is...what is Good?

I'd have to think about it some more, AS. I was simply going to agree with GIA's answer, which is reasonable, but I want to put effort into it. I'm not sure I've asked myself that question before.

[Greatest I am]

Yes, that is what I thought you were doing...I just wanted to make sure. So black is white and white is black? What I asking you is...what is Good?

I'd have to think bout it some more, AS. I was simply going to agree with GAI's answer, which is reasonable, but I want to put effort into it. I'm not sure I've asked myself that question before.

Reasonable!!!

I would say irrefutable.

Regards
DL

[Dalek Prime]

Let's leave it as a good answer that I'd still like to ponder.

[Hobbes' Choice]

You believe in God only an evil God? Do you believe in a Devil? Do you believe in good an any shape or form or is all evil to you?

It just seems to me, that if there is Bad then there has to be 'good'. Or else there would be nothing to judge 'bad' by. So, who takes the place of Good in your eyes? Anyone or thing? Or there is no good?

In the Abrahamic sense, the God they figure good still contains all. They just emphasize the good. I take the opposite approach, and emphasize the other. Is that clearer?

Yes, that is what I thought you were doing...I just wanted to make sure. So black is white and white is black? What I asking you is...what is Good?

Ice Cream is good.

Oh wait - not if you are a cow got into lactation by having your calf taken away from you.

Lettuce is good.

Oh wait, not if it give s you explosive wind. And not to the natural environment who have lost their ecosystem by having it dug over by farmers.

The sun is good because it gives us all the energy we need.

Of wait. You'd wish it was less powerful if you had to live around the margins of the Sahara. Not good if you have skin cancer.

Seem that good and evil are subjective.

[artisticsolution]

Seem that good and evil are subjective.

Seems so. But then we can never trust the definition of a word. Good means Evil, Black means white, masculine means feminine, God means Satan, etc.

I'm confused.

[Dalek Prime]

Seem that good and evil are subjective.

Seems so. But then we can never trust the definition of a word. Good means Evil, Black means white, masculine means feminine, God means Satan, etc.

I'm confused.

You don't have your own answer, AS? I'm beginning to think it is indeed all just subjective.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Seem that good and evil are subjective.

Seems so. But then we can never trust the definition of a word. Good means Evil, Black means white, masculine means feminine, God means Satan, etc.

I'm confused.

You are confused for sure.
Black is not white. I think part of your problem is that you might be confusing the word for the thing it represents.
Good and Evil are descriptive. They describe the way we feel about some things.
For me a nice beef steak is good, for you it is evil.
But I think most people will agree what things they can describe as black or white.

[artisticsolution]

[quote="Hobbes' ]
But I think most people will agree what things they can describe as black or white.[/quote]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dre ... henomenon)

[Hobbes' Choice]

[quote="Hobbes' ]
But I think most people will agree what things they can describe as black or white.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dre ... henomenon)[/quote][/quote]

Blue and gold is not black and white. This phenomenon is well understood. Change the light and every one agrees.
But such disagreements are well worth remembering when disagreements over things that appear obvious are matter of contention.

[artisticsolution]

[quote="Hobbes' ]
But I think most people will agree what things they can describe as black or white.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dre ... henomenon)

[/quote]

Blue and gold is not black and white. This phenomenon is well understood. Change the light and every one agrees.
But such disagreements are well worth remembering when disagreements over things that appear obvious are matter of contention.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

The way I understood this is they showed everyone the exact same picture and half saw black and blue and half saw gold and white. My point is, if we change the meaning of words, just because we can, and call a fictional character, such as God, ' evil' or 'bad' then why even have a word for 'satan'? If the word God means evil, then what is the word we will replace God with? In other words...God and satan will now mean ' evil' ...what word will denote a good entity?

Subjectivity is not negated by standard definitions of words. Subjectivity can exist while maintaining traditional usage of words and their definitions. The trick is using them to correctly and uniquely to design one's own voice.

If we arbitrarily change the meaning of a word, then we compound the difficulty of communication as now we not only have to convey our ideas but we also have to let people know we are changing to traditional meaning of words.

I know this is a difficult idea for some as they are firmly entrenched in aesthetic, and abhor the word 'God' . But then they could replace the words God and satan with whatever you want as a fictional character is a fictional character then.

[thedoc]

God means Satan, etc.

I'm confused.

In ancient Hebrew, the Sa'tan meant 'the self', so when God was talking to Sa'tan, God was talking to himself.