Is morality dead (RIP)?

[Dalek Prime]

... they would have become extinct before they climbed down from the trees.

If only...

I'm sure you're smart enough to get my point, Dalek. Homo managed to claw his way to the top of the tree of sentience precisely BECAUSE of his ability to co-operate with others of his own kind rather than serve only his own selfish interest. All social species do this because it is this behavioural feature which defines them as social. This is actually more true for homo sapiens now than it has ever been in our entire history.

What Phil is referring to is not a flaw in the nature of homo but a flaw in the way we have engineered our power structures. We allow ourselves to be forced to behave contrary to our own best interests as well as contrary to the best interests of our fellow man. We have willingly enslaved ourselves to a way of life which makes most people unhappy and thus they're just looking for somebody else to blame. Rich people blame poor people and poor people blame rich people. We blame the poofters and the dykes and the kikes and the niggers and the women and all the morons who pray to the wrong gods.
We should save ourselves all the trouble and just head for the nearest mirror if we're looking for somebody to blame for the life we're living.

I'm saying if only they had gone extinct earlier, we'd be saved existence, and been none the wiser. Nothing more. And I'll take responsibility for what occurs in my existence, which isn't so bad BTW, but the blame for my existence itself, which is the sine qua non of everything coming after my conception, sits solely with my parents.

[henry quirk]

The Golden Rule: Don't shit on anybody; don't let anybody shit on you.

Embedded in The Golden Rule: If shat upon, shit right back.

...and...

Yes, humans cooperate.

Why?

Self-interest, of course.

The alliance to further mutual goals (mainly self-preservation) is sensible.

Putting the community first is, on the other hand, just friggin' insane.

...and...

Morality: a sometimes useful fiction.

[Philosophy Explorer]

Dalek,

Just to say, don't lay that on your birth parents because they're genetically transferring what came before them.

PhilX

[Dalek Prime]

Dalek,

Just to say, don't lay that on your birth parents because they're genetically transferring what came before them.

PhilX

Which make them immediately responsible for it. How do you not understand this? Do you read anything I write on antinatalism?

[Philosophy Explorer]

Dalek,

Just to say, don't lay that on your birth parents because they're genetically transferring what came before them.

PhilX

Which make them immediately responsible for it. How do you not understand this? Do you read anything I write on antinatalism?

Sorry, not yet.

PhilX

[Dalek Prime]

Dalek,

Just to say, don't lay that on your birth parents because they're genetically transferring what came before them.

PhilX

Which make them immediately responsible for it. How do you not understand this? Do you read anything I write on antinatalism?

Sorry, not yet.

PhilX

Oy vey.

[dionisos]

As I said, Phil, I don't know any people like that. However I know plenty of people like you who would say this but when questioned closely it turns out that they don't know anybody like that either. What do you suppose might be the origin of this myth?

I think it have a lot to do with filling the blank, confirmation bias, and a poor understanding of the theory of evolution.

They will believe that the theory of evolution say that everything a animal(including human) do, is about its own survival. (poor understanding of the theory of evolution).

Then whatever someone do, they will find a reason for the person to do it for its own interest(filling the blank), and that will confirm their theory of total selfishness, and then they will believe in their theory more strongly, and be more willing to find a selfish reason for whatever action they see (confirmation bias)

Because we have no way to know the true reason of the behavior of someone else, there is a big blank that can be filled with about anything.
Example of filling the blank, to confirm the theory:
Someone give money to the poor: It’s a strategy to get more money.
He have no way to gain money from it: It’s only about how people see him, he give more weight to his pride than to money.
Nobody should have know he had do it: It’s only about feeling less guilty, feeling less guilty allow a better life, it’s still only about him.
Somebody kill himself to save others: He … hum… it’s still in its own interest, its about how people will see him after his death, it’s… [insert whatever confused reason].

[Obvious Leo]

I've been around a bit and nearly all of the people I have ever known in my life have been thoughtful, kind, generous and morally upright human beings. I'm also a curious man who likes to know what makes other people tick and I've discovered that my experience is by no means unique. Almost everybody I've ever known has also found that almost everybody that they've ever known have also been thoughtful, kind, generous and morally upright human beings. As a philosopher of the bloody obvious I dare to draw the conclusion that the vast majority of people in the world are thoughtful, kind, generous and morally upright human beings. QED.