Marriage For Everyone!

[SpheresOfBalance]

Does homosexuality make any sense whatsoever? Sex is a most pleasurable thing, but the main reason for it is to procreate. Homosexuality eliminates the whole point of the act. The only semi-decent thing that comes out of homosexuality is that if the entire world was homosexual, we wouldn't have to worry about harming the planet, because we would cease to exist before the damage is done.

The male and female genitalia perfectly complement each other, for a reason.

All mental situations develop through how you are raised and if I remember correctly Kayla, it was your mother who advised you to become a lesbian, because of your disappointment with males.

What is natural about a dildo or inserting a penis into an orifice designed to excrete fecal matter.

Yet it's not your or anyone else's business how others decide to conduct their life.

There are a lot of things mankind has done that are not natural: tatoos, piercings, rings on the neck to make it long, the removal of the clitoris and the foreskin, silicone or saline bags to make ones tits bigger, plastic surgery altogether, abortions, contraception, GMO's, non organic fertilizers, open heart surgery, hearing aids, prosthetics, etc, etc, etc. Do you really want me to continue? And I bet you're guilty of supporting some of them.

So why in the hell do you care what someone else does, as if you're the keeper of the natural flame?
Did your god whisper in your mind that you should be that keeper?

[The Inglorious One]

Does homosexuality make any sense whatsoever? Sex is a most pleasurable thing, but the main reason for it is to procreate. Homosexuality eliminates the whole point of the act. The only semi-decent thing that comes out of homosexuality is that if the entire world was homosexual, we wouldn't have to worry about harming the planet, because we would cease to exist before the damage is done.

The male and female genitalia perfectly complement each other, for a reason.

All mental situations develop through how you are raised and if I remember correctly Kayla, it was your mother who advised you to become a lesbian, because of your disappointment with males.

What is natural about a dildo or inserting a penis into an orifice designed to excrete fecal matter.

Yet it's not your or anyone else's business how others decide to conduct their life.

There are a lot of things mankind has done that are not natural: tatoos, piercings, rings on the neck to make it long, the removal of the clitoris and the foreskin, silicone or saline bags to make ones tits bigger, plastic surgery altogether, abortions, contraception, GMO's, non organic fertilizers, open heart surgery, hearing aids, prosthetics, etc, etc, etc. Do you really want me to continue? And I bet you're guilty of supporting some of them.

So why in the hell do you care what someone else does, as if you're the keeper of the natural flame?
Did your god whisper in your mind that you should be that keeper?

Human beings have the ability to rationalize anything -- and I mean anything -- that strikes their fancy. And they do.

Yet it's not your or anyone else's business how others decide to conduct their life.

Since when?

The proponents of SSM lost the debate in this thread a long time ago. No sense in rehashing the same old nonsense.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Does homosexuality make any sense whatsoever? Sex is a most pleasurable thing, but the main reason for it is to procreate. Homosexuality eliminates the whole point of the act. The only semi-decent thing that comes out of homosexuality is that if the entire world was homosexual, we wouldn't have to worry about harming the planet, because we would cease to exist before the damage is done.

The male and female genitalia perfectly complement each other, for a reason.

All mental situations develop through how you are raised and if I remember correctly Kayla, it was your mother who advised you to become a lesbian, because of your disappointment with males.

What is natural about a dildo or inserting a penis into an orifice designed to excrete fecal matter.

Yet it's not your or anyone else's business how others decide to conduct their life.

There are a lot of things mankind has done that are not natural: tatoos, piercings, rings on the neck to make it long, the removal of the clitoris and the foreskin, silicone or saline bags to make ones tits bigger, plastic surgery altogether, abortions, contraception, GMO's, non organic fertilizers, open heart surgery, hearing aids, prosthetics, etc, etc, etc. Do you really want me to continue? And I bet you're guilty of supporting some of them.

So why in the hell do you care what someone else does, as if you're the keeper of the natural flame?
Did your god whisper in your mind that you should be that keeper?

Human beings have the ability to rationalize anything -- and I mean anything -- that strikes their fancy. And they do.
Yes I know, but as a side bar, I've always hated the usage of that word. One should be rational not irrational, however it's said to be bad to rationalize. I think that that meaning should be attached to the word irrational somehow, not rational, because some peoples, so called, rationalizations are completely irrational. I believe it causes some of the discontinuity of the English language

Yet it's not your or anyone else's business how others decide to conduct their life.

Since when?
Since always!

The proponents of SSM lost the debate in this thread a long time ago. No sense in rehashing the same old nonsense.
So what you're saying is that because I took a breather for little over a month, my thoughts don't count?

[The Inglorious One]

Yet it's not your or anyone else's business how others decide to conduct their life.

Since when?
Since always!

Historically, a person's sense of individuality is a relatively recent phenomenon for the simple (and obvious) reason that it was not conducive to the survival of the clan or tribe.

So what you're saying is that because I took a breather for little over a month, my thoughts don't count?

Pretty much, yeah.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Historically, a person's sense of individuality is a relatively recent phenomenon for the simple (and obvious) reason that it was not conducive to the survival of the clan or tribe.)

Modern myth.
Fact it that what IS very recent is the idea that the rulers can control everything you do and think. In fact only since universal education.
Medieval christianity did a pretty good job of fucking everyone up, as you say. But in urban areas they never really had full control.
But before centrally controlled religion the leadership had vey little say in how people lived their lives, and customs came from the bottom up, rather than the top down.
Mass media has done a pretty good job of controlling the masses, but with the advent of the Internet people are now beginning to talk back. Hence marriage for everyone, for which there are no real objections.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Yet it's not your or anyone else's business how others decide to conduct their life.

Since when?
Since always!

Historically, a person's sense of individuality is a relatively recent phenomenon for the simple (and obvious) reason that it was not conducive to the survival of the clan or tribe.
Actually I could care less how others have tread upon others throughout history. I'm talking about the absolute truth of things. It is most certainly true that the only thing we absolutely owe one another is to leave one another alone. Unless invited otherwise! Unless of course one surrenders to their screwy concocted fears, then becoming that which they fear. Quite insane, I'd say! But then we're still not fully out of the woods yet.

So what you're saying is that because I took a breather for little over a month, my thoughts don't count?

Pretty much, yeah.
Well it's a good thing you're a newbie then!

You're out of your tree if you're not a proponent of same sex marriage, a fool to say the least.

Fact: It's impossible for proponents of SSM to have lost the debate, as SSM is just as proper and any other type of marriage.

[The Inglorious One]

Historically, a person's sense of individuality is a relatively recent phenomenon for the simple (and obvious) reason that it was not conducive to the survival of the clan or tribe.)

Modern myth.
Fact it that what IS very recent is the idea that the rulers can control everything you do and think. In fact only since universal education.
Medieval christianity did a pretty good job of fucking everyone up, as you say. But in urban areas they never really had full control.
But before centrally controlled religion the leadership had vey little say in how people lived their lives, and customs came from the bottom up, rather than the top down.
Mass media has done a pretty good job of controlling the masses, but with the advent of the Internet people are now beginning to talk back. Hence marriage for everyone, for which there are no real objections.

I don't know whether this is ironic or funny. But it is interesting that your condemnation of Christianity is grounded in Christian ideals.

The underlined has been covered. You lost the debate.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Here are some definitions for the idiots:

marriage [mar-ij]

noun
1. (broadly) any of the diverse forms of interpersonal union established in various parts of the world to form a familial bond that is recognized legally, religiously, or socially, granting the participating partners mutual conjugal rights and responsibilities and including, for example, opposite-sex marriage, same-sex marriage, plural marriage, and arranged marriage:
Anthropologists say that some type of marriage has been found in every known human society since ancient times.
See Word Story at the current entry.

6. any close or intimate association or union: the marriage of words and music in a hit song.
Synonyms: blend, merger, unity, oneness; alliance, confederation.
Antonyms: separation, division, disunion, schism.

Anyone that disagrees does so because of their fear, pure and simple!

[The Inglorious One]

Here are some definitions for the idiots:

marriage [mar-ij]

noun
1. (broadly) any of the diverse forms of interpersonal union established in various parts of the world to form a familial bond that is recognized legally, religiously, or socially, granting the participating partners mutual conjugal rights and responsibilities and including, for example, opposite-sex marriage, same-sex marriage, plural marriage, and arranged marriage:
Anthropologists say that some type of marriage has been found in every known human society since ancient times.
See Word Story at the current entry.

6. any close or intimate association or union: the marriage of words and music in a hit song.
Synonyms: blend, merger, unity, oneness; alliance, confederation.
Antonyms: separation, division, disunion, schism.

Anyone that disagrees does so because of their fear, pure and simple!

Ah, yes. The same logic that says anyone opposed to open borders is xenophobic. Not the first time in this thread. THIS IS A PHILOSOPHY FORUM, YOU DIMWIT! It's not a place for a bumper-sticker mentality.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Here are some definitions for the idiots:

marriage [mar-ij]

noun
1. (broadly) any of the diverse forms of interpersonal union established in various parts of the world to form a familial bond that is recognized legally, religiously, or socially, granting the participating partners mutual conjugal rights and responsibilities and including, for example, opposite-sex marriage, same-sex marriage, plural marriage, and arranged marriage:
Anthropologists say that some type of marriage has been found in every known human society since ancient times.
See Word Story at the current entry.

6. any close or intimate association or union: the marriage of words and music in a hit song.
Synonyms: blend, merger, unity, oneness; alliance, confederation.
Antonyms: separation, division, disunion, schism.

Anyone that disagrees does so because of their fear, pure and simple!

Ah, yes. The same logic that says anyone opposed to open borders is xenophobic. Not the first time in this thread. THIS IS A PHILOSOPHY FORUM, YOU DIMWIT! It's not a place for a bumper-sticker mentality.

I have your DIMWIT hanging, while I'll try and raise your SHIT FOR BRAINS. That is if you could shut your pie hole and listen to reason, I know it'd be new for you, but you got to grow up sometime, boy!

Gamble and give me your best argument against SSM and you can watch while I send you back one grade to kindergarten.

Go ahead, hit me with your best shot!

[The Inglorious One]

Go ahead, hit me with your best shot!

You already lost with that "fear" comment. It proves you are not a serious thinker.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Go ahead, hit me with your best shot!

You already lost with that "fear" comment. It proves you are not a serious thinker.

Not at all, but this comment of yours proves you're a poser and an idiot, and yes, fearful! Because you know the writings on the wall, that is, that you'll lose against the SOB.

The fact is, if you're a religious nutter, it makes no difference to the argument. Because it's not a church that had anything to do with the current SSM issue. It was the GOVERNMENT!!! It's a LEGAL issue, not a religious one. The government supersedes the church on this issue my friend. And it's all about equality for those that happen to be born with differences. Just as well as the blind, or any other handicapped individual has the right to get married, so does the homosexual.

You do realize that there are born such beings as 100% hermaphrodites, right. They were born different, having exactly one complete set of both male and female sex organs. Then there are variations on that theme of different percentages of male and/or female genitalia. Some might say they are handicapped. And I guess they are, when confronted with close minded morons such as yourself. But regardless of how they were changed during development, beyond their control, all humans deserve the same rights and protections by a government, by and for the 'people.' Regardless of selfish/fearful turds like you! Capeesh?

Go ahead give me your best shot, as I've been shot many times. Capeesh?

[Hobbes' Choice]

Historically, a person's sense of individuality is a relatively recent phenomenon for the simple (and obvious) reason that it was not conducive to the survival of the clan or tribe.)

Modern myth.
Fact it that what IS very recent is the idea that the rulers can control everything you do and think. In fact only since universal education.
Medieval christianity did a pretty good job of fucking everyone up, as you say. But in urban areas they never really had full control.
But before centrally controlled religion the leadership had vey little say in how people lived their lives, and customs came from the bottom up, rather than the top down.
Mass media has done a pretty good job of controlling the masses, but with the advent of the Internet people are now beginning to talk back. Hence marriage for everyone, for which there are no real objections.

I don't know whether this is ironic or funny. But it is interesting that your condemnation of Christianity is grounded in Christian ideals.

The underlined has been covered. You lost the debate.

You've not put up any debate against marriage for all yet. I'm still waiting.

[The Inglorious One]

Go ahead, hit me with your best shot!

You already lost with that "fear" comment. It proves you are not a serious thinker.

Not at all, but this comment of yours proves you're a poser and an idiot, and yes, fearful! Because you know the writings on the wall, that is, that you'll lose against the SOB.

If you say so.

[The Inglorious One]

You've not put up any debate against marriage for all yet. I'm still waiting.

Even if that were true, I don't have to. The burden is on you to show why forcing a major league football team to allow a crippled, 5'6” 110lb wannabe to play linebacker and violating a person's First Amendment rights are good for society.