Obvious Leo wrote:Dalek Prime wrote:Why fight for a brighter future if it's irrelevant?
It's an irrelevant digression but this question rather reminds me of the climate change deniers argument. Why make the world a better place if we don't have to?
I'm playing devil's advocate here Leo. Most banal arguments against antinatalism stem from the denial or denigration of harms and suffering in life. So I'm doing the same here to make a point that, if it is true when natalists use it, it becomes fair game in other situations. And of course, it's not in either. And in explaining this to you, you've forced me to tip my hand, and reveal my intent. Very disappointing. No offense, but I wish, when I address someone, others wouldn't interfere with the discourse. It's all to common on this forum. And yes, I've done it myself, so I'm guilty too.
One other thing that troubles me that I take issue with. People partially quoting. The part you quoted is inferior to the first part. And when that happens, the message gets lost. And certain people do that often to change the argument to their favour eg. Hobbes and Arising.
Ah, forget it. This behaviour will just continue with them, and makes it not worthwhile staying on this forum. Too many consider philosophy to be a competition; he who shouts loudest, or obfuscates the best, wins. That's not for me.