The American Death Penalty

[attofishpi]

Is it not pure hypocrisy that at your court trial you may be expected to swear to tell the truth on the holy bible, and still face the death penalty where within said bible is a commandment "Thou shalt not kill."

Ridiculous.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Is it not pure hypocrisy that at your court trial you may be expected to swear to tell the truth on the holy bible, and still face the death penalty where within said bible is a commandment "Thou shalt not kill."

Ridiculous.

Extreme irony. But do they still have the archaic practice of swearing on the babble? If you choose not to then it could bias a jury or judge against you, especially in such a backward theocracy as the US.

[Hobbes' Choice]

For me this statistic alone is enough to warrant a complete repeal of the death penalty.

Since the reintroduction of the death penalty in 1976, America has executed some 645 people, while 87 have been exonerated after being sentenced to death, which amounts to almost one reprieve for every seven executed.

87 innocents murdered by the state.

[Hobbes' Choice]

GW Bush is a mass murderer!

Agree, and yanks seem to love him. They do love their serial killers.

Is there any country in the world, that is free of that charge?

Love serial killers? what are you babbling about?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

For me this statistic alone is enough to warrant a complete repeal of the death penalty.

Since the reintroduction of the death penalty in 1976, America has executed some 645 people, while 87 have been exonerated after being sentenced to death, which amounts to almost one reprieve for every seven executed.

87 innocents murdered by the state.

And that would only be the tip of the iceberg. The death penalty is abhorrent to any civilised, thinking person.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn ... execution/

[Hobbes' Choice]

For me this statistic alone is enough to warrant a complete repeal of the death penalty.

Since the reintroduction of the death penalty in 1976, America has executed some 645 people, while 87 have been exonerated after being sentenced to death, which amounts to almost one reprieve for every seven executed.

87 innocents murdered by the state.

And that would only be the tip of the iceberg. The death penalty is abhorrent to any civilised, thinking person.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn ... execution/

Whilst I agree that the death penalty is abhorent I think you are making a mistake thinking that being "civilised" or a "thinker" is a bar from believing in state execution - far from it.
Civilisation has been around for 12,000 years, and in 99% of that time the death penalty has been the mainstay of the penal system.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

For me this statistic alone is enough to warrant a complete repeal of the death penalty.

Since the reintroduction of the death penalty in 1976, America has executed some 645 people, while 87 have been exonerated after being sentenced to death, which amounts to almost one reprieve for every seven executed.

87 innocents murdered by the state.

And that would only be the tip of the iceberg. The death penalty is abhorrent to any civilised, thinking person.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn ... execution/

Whilst I agree that the death penalty is abhorent I think you are making a mistake thinking that being "civilised" or a "thinker" is a bar from believing in state execution - far from it.
Civilisation has been around for 12,000 years, and in 99% of that time the death penalty has been the mainstay of the penal system.

To civilise: bring out of barbarism, enlighten, refine and educate.....
I have to strongly disagree with you.

[artisticsolution]

GW Bush is a mass murderer!

Agree, and yanks seem to love him. They do love their serial killers.

Serial killers are fascinating to Americans for sure. ..but Bush is not. Most of the people who voted for him are embarrassed and distance themselves from that fiasco. However, they keep holding dear the same basic principles.

Is there a difference from the Germans who followed Hitler, I wonder. Or was there no way to distance ones self when one can smell decaying bodies in the air?

[Hobbes' Choice]

And that would only be the tip of the iceberg. The death penalty is abhorrent to any civilised, thinking person.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn ... execution/

Whilst I agree that the death penalty is abhorent I think you are making a mistake thinking that being "civilised" or a "thinker" is a bar from believing in state execution - far from it.
Civilisation has been around for 12,000 years, and in 99% of that time the death penalty has been the mainstay of the penal system.

To civilise: bring out of barbarism, enlighten, refine and educate.....
I have to strongly disagree with you.

Civilise: life in the civitas, urban living. The death penalty has been a feature of civilisation since it's outset and in still the most common ultimate sentence in the majority of civilisations throughout history.
So-called barbarians tended to execute less than their civilised counterparts; and used banishment more commonly. The advent of civil living, meant that the death penalty become more common.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Civilise: life in the civitas, urban living. The death penalty has been a feature of civilisation since it's outset and in still the most common ultimate sentence in the majority of civilisations throughout history.
So-called barbarians tended to execute less than their civilised counterparts; and used banishment more commonly. The advent of civil living, meant that the death penalty become more common.

But this is TODAY. NOT centuries ago. You know perfectly well what I mean by civilised. It certainly doesn't mean 'urban living'. A country that uses the death penalty in the present day cannot call itself civilised, especially a country that claims the moral high-ground and puts itself on a pedestal as the standard-bearer of all that is good and great on the planet.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Civilise: life in the civitas, urban living. The death penalty has been a feature of civilisation since it's outset and in still the most common ultimate sentence in the majority of civilisations throughout history.
So-called barbarians tended to execute less than their civilised counterparts; and used banishment more commonly. The advent of civil living, meant that the death penalty become more common.

But this is TODAY. NOT centuries ago. You know perfectly well what I mean by civilised. It certainly doesn't mean 'urban living'. A country that uses the death penalty in the present day cannot call itself civilised, especially a country that claims the moral high-ground and puts itself on a pedestal as the standard-bearer of all that is good and great on the planet.

I didn't think you thought so highly of civilisation.
Civilisation is what is destroying the planet, and 90% of civil authorities have a death penalty.
By contrast in pre-civilised or un-civilised societies the death penalty was rare indeed.
Figure it out!

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Civilise: life in the civitas, urban living. The death penalty has been a feature of civilisation since it's outset and in still the most common ultimate sentence in the majority of civilisations throughout history.
So-called barbarians tended to execute less than their civilised counterparts; and used banishment more commonly. The advent of civil living, meant that the death penalty become more common.

But this is TODAY. NOT centuries ago. You know perfectly well what I mean by civilised. It certainly doesn't mean 'urban living'. A country that uses the death penalty in the present day cannot call itself civilised, especially a country that claims the moral high-ground and puts itself on a pedestal as the standard-bearer of all that is good and great on the planet.

I didn't think you thought so highly of civilisation.
Civilisation is what is destroying the planet, and 90% of civil authorities have a death penalty.
By contrast in pre-civilised or un-civilised societies the death penalty was rare indeed.
Figure it out!

Again: To civilise: bring out of barbarism, enlighten, refine and educate..... Your meaning is clearly different from mine. You won't change my view, that the US is an uncivilised shit-hole. It's also doing far more than its fair share to destroy the planet.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Again: To civilise: bring out of barbarism, enlighten, refine and educate..... Your meaning is clearly different from mine. You won't change my view, that the US is an uncivilised shit-hole. It's also doing far more than its fair share to destroy the planet.

I'm quite surprised you have swallowed the myth so deeply.
Try and tell the Aboriginees of Australia what you think of 'civilisation'.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Again: To civilise: bring out of barbarism, enlighten, refine and educate..... Your meaning is clearly different from mine. You won't change my view, that the US is an uncivilised shit-hole. It's also doing far more than its fair share to destroy the planet.

I'm quite surprised you have swallowed the myth so deeply.
Try and tell the Aboriginees of Australia what you think of 'civilisation'.

The Australians have been very uncivilised in how they have treated the aborigines. What 'myth' have I swallowed? You don't seem to have a clue what I'm talking about.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Again: To civilise: bring out of barbarism, enlighten, refine and educate..... Your meaning is clearly different from mine. You won't change my view, that the US is an uncivilised shit-hole. It's also doing far more than its fair share to destroy the planet.

I'm quite surprised you have swallowed the myth so deeply.
Try and tell the Aboriginees of Australia what you think of 'civilisation'.

The Australians have been very uncivilised in how they have treated the aborigines. What 'myth' have I swallowed? You don't seem to have a clue what I'm talking about.

The British went to Australia to "civilise" those "savages".
I think I've said all I need to say. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.