Can anyone answer these questions?

[Kingfisher]

Great philosophical minds of Philosophy Now! I have a challenge for you. The challenges are as follows:

1. How can the welfare state, especially the extensive ones, be understood from an Aristotelian and Utilitarian position?

2. Is it possible to defend progressive fines for speeding, i.e. fines for speeding based on income, by using the distributive justice thinkers like Rawls, Nozick, Cohen and Walzer or from positions such as the principle of fairness?

I await your replies eagerly!

[bobevenson]

1) A welfare state can only be understood from a position of not understanding how human nature relates to economics.

2) Fines for anything can't be defended since they represent a conflict of interest and an improper form of taxation.

[Arising_uk]

When's your essay due?

[Skip]

Great philosophical minds of Philosophy Now! I have a challenge for you. The challenges are as follows:

1. How can the welfare state, especially the extensive ones, be understood from an Aristotelian and Utilitarian position?

What do you mean by a welfare state? What does 'extensive' welfare extend? Which states currently qualify for your definition and what welfare do they provide to whom? You can't understand it from any position until after you've defined and described it.

2. Is it possible to defend progressive fines for speeding, i.e. fines for speeding based on income, by using the distributive justice thinkers like Rawls, Nozick, Cohen and Walzer or from positions such as the principle of fairness?

I doubt it. But you can have progressive fines for speeding based on the amount exceeding the limit, because that would pose a progressively more expensive danger to the potential victims.

[bobevenson]

You can have progressive fines for speeding based on the amount exceeding the limit, because that would pose a progressively more expensive danger to the potential victims.

Do you seriously believe that cops are shooting radar at drivers in the name of safety? Where do you think the term "speed trap" came from? It's all about raising money from fines instead of taxes!

[Skip]

The question wasn't what fines are for, but whether they should be progressive by income? No.

[Arising_uk]

The question wasn't what fines are for, but whether they should be progressive by income? No.

They do so in Finland and Sweden and I think it an eminently fair position to take as it hits all those who break the law equally in the pocket.

[bobevenson]

The question wasn't what fines are for, but whether they should be progressive by income? No.

I responded to Skip improperly linking fines to safety. Linking fines to income or anything else is an improper form of taxation.

[bobevenson]

The question wasn't what fines are for, but whether they should be progressive by income? No.

They do so in Finland and Sweden and I think it an eminently fair position to take as it hits all those who break the law equally in the pocket.

All fines are a conflict of interest and an improper form of taxation.

[Arising_uk]

All fines are a conflict of interest and an improper form of taxation.

Shouting doesn't make it true.

[bobevenson]

All fines are a conflict of interest and an improper form of taxation.

Shouting doesn't make it true.

First of all, I use bold 125 point on everything for visual clarity because I don't buy the current default position of this forum. Secondly, everything I say is true regardless of font. Thirdly, if I want to shout, I'll do it this way:
Fuck you!

[Skip]

can't argue with that

[Arising_uk]

First of all, I use bold 125 point on everything for visual clarity because I don't buy the current default position of this forum. Secondly, everything I say is true regardless of font. Thirdly, if I want to shout, I'll do it this way:
Fuck you!

Bill Wiltrack II

[mickthinks]

When's your essay due?

[bobevenson]

First of all, I use bold 125 point on everything for visual clarity because I don't buy the current default position of this forum. Secondly, everything I say is true regardless of font. Thirdly, if I want to shout, I'll do it this way:
Fuck you!

Bill Wiltrack II

That DNA has left the building.