Nietzsche on Americans

[Wyman]

Try to stay in the present, Wyman. The modern corporation and an outdated mercantile monopoly are two completely different entities.

Yes, the old one had private armies and ruled subcontinents. The American corporations sell things.

Oh, is that all they do? Not wreck environmental havoc globally, and externalize losses? Okay then.

By the way, how is Blackwater doing?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_military_company

You said that American corporations changed the nature of the corporate entity to be a shining example of greed. What did they change the corporate entity from?

[Dalek Prime]

One that didn't have the same rights as an individual, giving it vastly more protection under law and the US constitution.

[Wyman]

One that didn't have the same rights as an individual, giving it vastly more protection under law and the US constitution.

What does having rights as an individual have to do with transforming it into a shining example of greed? And, given that Citizens United was fairly recent, are you saying that this transformation has occurred in the past several years?

[Dalek Prime]

That's the start of the modern corporation, that didn't exist before the 14th ammendment to your constitution.

Read "The Corporation" by constitutional lawyer Joel Bakkan. It explains the changes since the 19th century. It's not a long read. Or view the documentary.

[Wyman]

That's the start of the modern corporation, that didn't exist before the 14th ammendment to your constitution.

Read "The Corporation" by constitutional lawyer Joel Bakkan. It explains the changes since the 19th century. It's not a long read. Or view the documentary.

The 14th amendment extended the bill of rights to the states after the Civil War. I suppose whatever status corporations had federally under the bill of rights carried over to the states after the 14th amendment. I don't know how that gets to your conclusions, but it seems a stretch. Also, what protections are given corporations in Europe and the rest of the world?

[Dalek Prime]

Just read the book. Honestly, I don't have the nuances at hand, and I'm working.

[Melchior]

Can we get back to what Nietzsche said, please? We're getting very far afield here.

[Wyman]

Can we get back to what Nietzsche said, please? We're getting very far afield here.

Apparently we have assigned reading in this thread. What Nietzsche said may be more generally applicable to protestants - the hard working, tradition shirking, individualist part.

[Dalek Prime]

Read it if you want. Not compulsory.

[Melchior]

Can we get back to what Nietzsche said, please? We're getting very far afield here.

Apparently we have assigned reading in this thread. What Nietzsche said may be more generally applicable to protestants - the hard working, tradition shirking, individualist part.

But the hard-working Americans who built so much in the 19th century came from England and Germany. It has nothing to do with American Indians. Nietzsche is full of shit here.

Brewery distrct in Columbus, Ohio:

https://www.google.com/search?q=gambrin ... umbus+ohio

[Wyman]

Can we get back to what Nietzsche said, please? We're getting very far afield here.

Apparently we have assigned reading in this thread. What Nietzsche said may be more generally applicable to protestants - the hard working, tradition shirking, individualist part.

But the hard-working Americans who built so much in the 19th century came from England and Germany. It has nothing to do with American Indians. Nietzsche is full of shit here.

Brewery distrct in Columbus, Ohio:

https://www.google.com/search?q=gambrin ... umbus+ohio

I agree. I like reading much of his work, but a fair percentage is garbage. The things he wrote about women are really over the top as well.

[Melchior]

But the hard-working Americans who built so much in the 19th century came from England and Germany. It has nothing to do with American Indians. Nietzsche is full of shit here.

Brewery distrct in Columbus, Ohio:

https://www.google.com/search?q=gambrin ... umbus+ohio

I agree. I like reading much of his work, but a fair percentage is garbage. The things he wrote about women are really over the top as well.

WAS YOU EVER IN ZIZINNATI?

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/ ... unty,_Ohio

http://germanvillage.com/about-2/history/

"By 1830, massive German immigration to the city had occurred. These South Enders had little time or money for extras. As the local newspaper, “Der Westbote,” described in 1855: “The people who live in these small houses work very hard. You will not find silver on the doors, but you will find many little gardens which produce vegetables for the city’s market. You will not find silk or other very expensive things; but the houses are very clean, the people work hard, and are very healthy, and they are very happy.”