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GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: Although it seems like they are on the moon in that video, it could just be a camera with a high refresh rate slowed down at the right time, and a weighted (trick) feather.
So what material is the feather made of so that it could overcome the air resistance due to its shape?

When you come up with an answer go and find some, and see if you can repeat the experiment on earth.
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[quote="Pluto"]turn sound down first .../quote]Er? Has it crossed your mind that if this was a cock-up they'd just have reshot the scene?
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:
GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: Although it seems like they are on the moon in that video, it could just be a camera with a high refresh rate slowed down at the right time, and a weighted (trick) feather.
So what material is the feather made of so that it could overcome the air resistance due to its shape?

When you come up with an answer go and find some, and see if you can repeat the experiment on earth.
Kidding right? All you'd need is some metal wire and fiber material and paint it white. Dude, I thought you were a man of science, but questions like these are hurting your statement that the moon landing is real.
Hobbes Choice wrote:If you drop a tennis ball weighing 20grs, massive ball of lead weighting 20 tonnes from the same height at the same time: which will hit the ground first, and why?

Hammers don't tumble in the air.
No shit. Thanks for your basic 2nd grade level physics lecture, and thankyou also for implying I am some kind of retard.

The hammer tumbling was about a hypothetical STYROFOAM hammer thrown on the earth. Guess I have to be more clear because if I don't Capt. Obvious will swarm to the rescue. No shit that a lead ball would fall roughly the same rate as a tennis ball.
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GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: Although it seems like they are on the moon in that video, it could just be a camera with a high refresh rate slowed down at the right time, and a weighted (trick) feather.
So what material is the feather made of so that it could overcome the air resistance due to its shape?

When you come up with an answer go and find some, and see if you can repeat the experiment on earth.
Kidding right? All you'd need is some metal wire and fiber material and paint it white. Dude, I thought you were a man of science, but questions like these are hurting your statement that the moon landing is real.
Hobbes Choice wrote:If you drop a tennis ball weighing 20grs, massive ball of lead weighting 20 tonnes from the same height at the same time: which will hit the ground first, and why?

Hammers don't tumble in the air.
No shit. Thanks for your basic 2nd grade level physics lecture, and thankyou also for implying I am some kind of retard.

The hammer tumbling was about a hypothetical STYROFOAM hammer thrown on the earth. Guess I have to be more clear because if I don't Capt. Obvious will swarm to the rescue. No shit that a lead ball would fall roughly the same rate as a tennis ball.
Go forth and TRY your feather!!
I don't have to imply you are a retard.
A falling styrofoam hammer with reach the ground at exactly the same moment as a metal one.
A lead ball will not fall at roughly the same rate as a tennis ball, but at the same rate.
Do you even know what you are now trying to argue?
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:
GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: No shit. Thanks for your basic 2nd grade level physics lecture, and thankyou also for implying I am some kind of retard.

The hammer tumbling was about a hypothetical STYROFOAM hammer thrown on the earth. Guess I have to be more clear because if I don't Capt. Obvious will swarm to the rescue. No shit that a lead ball would fall roughly the same rate as a tennis ball.
Go forth and TRY your feather!!
I don't have to imply you are a retard.
A falling styrofoam hammer with reach the ground at exactly the same moment as a metal one.
A lead ball will not fall at roughly the same rate as a tennis ball, but at the same rate.
Do you even know what you are now trying to argue?
You don't have to imply it, because I'm not, it's clear to see.

But what do your statements imply about you? Every fourth grader and their mother knows due to air resistance a tennis ball will fall at a slightly slower rate than a lead ball, not at the "same rate". It would require precise measurements and likely you would not see it with your eye. Basic stuff.

Comment about a styrofoam hammer is the same deal, but it's irrelevant because I said "STYROFOAM hammer thrown" not "STYROFOAM hammer dropped."

As for my feather it's obvious to see why a metal feather would work. It seems to me that you are one of the ancient trolls who came from the Flat Earther's Society to grace us with your presence here.
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GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: Guess I have to be more clear.

And that has been your problem from the beginning, expecting that everyone will just accept what you say, clear or not.
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GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: No shit. Thanks for your basic 2nd grade level physics lecture, and thankyou also for implying I am some kind of retard.

The hammer tumbling was about a hypothetical STYROFOAM hammer thrown on the earth. Guess I have to be more clear because if I don't Capt. Obvious will swarm to the rescue. No shit that a lead ball would fall roughly the same rate as a tennis ball.
Go forth and TRY your feather!!
I don't have to imply you are a retard.
A falling styrofoam hammer with reach the ground at exactly the same moment as a metal one.
A lead ball will not fall at roughly the same rate as a tennis ball, but at the same rate.
Do you even know what you are now trying to argue?
You don't have to imply it, because I'm not, it's clear to see.

But what do your statements imply about you? Every fourth grader and their mother knows due to air resistance a tennis ball will fall at a slightly slower rate than a lead ball, not at the "same rate". It would require precise measurements and likely you would not see it with your eye. Basic stuff.

Comment about a styrofoam hammer is the same deal, but it's irrelevant because I said "STYROFOAM hammer thrown" not "STYROFOAM hammer dropped."

As for my feather it's obvious to see why a metal feather would work. It seems to me that you are one of the ancient trolls who came from the Flat Earther's Society to grace us with your presence here.
You are talking bollocks.
Go forth and make you feather. Then come back to me with your results.

Why are you banging on about "throwing hammers"?
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GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: As for my feather it's obvious to see why a metal feather would work.

Here is where you are wrong, different objects with different shapes and densities will achieve different "terminal velocity" when falling. Even the metal feather will achieve greater "terminal velocity" if it is oriented vertically rather than horizontally. It all depends on the weight and surface area presented to the air flow, aerodynamics, there should be some simple explanations that you could understand.
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Hobbes' Choice wrote: Why are you banging on about "throwing hammers"?

Because she saw a video about the last act on the Moon, an Astronaut throwing a hammer, but the camera was too far away to see anything clearly. Now she thinks that this bad video somehow proves the Moon landing hoax theory.
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thedoc wrote:
GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: As for my feather it's obvious to see why a metal feather would work.

Here is where you are wrong?, (No it actually proves me right, jackass.) different objects with different shapes and densities will achieve different "terminal velocity" when falling. Even the metal feather will achieve greater "terminal velocity" if it is oriented vertically rather than horizontally. It all depends on the weight and surface area presented to the air flow, aerodynamics, there should be some simple explanations that you could understand.
No shit, I guess jackass #2 has to chime in with the condescending grade-level advice.

If anything, your statement should be addressed to Hobbes, not me, I'm full aware of the aerodynamics involved. Hobbes claimed that a tennis and lead ball would fall at the same time. A metal feather would be more than enough to pull off the trick that it fell at roughly the same time at the small distance (3 feet) depicted in the moon video.
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GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: thankyou also for implying I am some kind of retard.

I don't have to imply you are a retard.
You don't have to imply it, because I'm not, it's clear to see.
Then why do all your posts read like they were written by someone with serious mental deficiencies,
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thedoc wrote:
Then why do all your posts read like they were written by someone with serious mental deficiencies,
Typos from a faulty keyboard are not mental deficiencies, anal retentive is, and so is slut shaming, and all the other annoying things you do to harass me. You come off as some stupid old mysogynist male who has nothing to do but go around acting like a jackass to women on forums all day.
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GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:
thedoc wrote:
Then why do all your posts read like they were written by someone with serious mental deficiencies,
Typos from a faulty keyboard are not mental deficiencies, anal retentive is, and so is slut shaming, and all the other annoying things you do to harass me. You come off as some stupid old mysogynist male who has nothing to do but go around acting like a jackass to women on forums all day.
Because she saw a video about the last act on the Moon, an Astronaut throwing a hammer, but the camera was too far away to see anything clearly. Now she thinks that this bad video somehow proves the Moon landing hoax theory.
Jackass putting words in my mouth. Never said it proved anything, retard. I don't come to conclusions from blurry videos, that's your job. The video I mentioned didn't prove anything either way, it was a non-video.
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Pluto wrote:turn sound down first .../quote]Er? Has it crossed your mind that if this was a cock-up they'd just have reshot the scene?
AUK, I hadn't, and it's good thinking from you here. My strategy though, is to get you, The Doc, and Hobbes' Choice, to be the ones who, in the end, are trying to persuade me of the very real idea, that we, as in humanity, didn't go. You know in your hearts that there is a possibility, however slight, that they faked it, right?
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Pluto wrote: My strategy though, is to get you, The Doc, and Hobbes' Choice, to be the ones who in the end are trying to persuade me of the very real idea, that we, as in humanity, didn't go.
Seems like whatever you said must have worked, they are already doing a good job of it.
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