Questions for Buddhists.

[thedoc]

The one thing that people like Trixie seem to forget is that all the posts are here for anyone to review, and anyone can see just how week her arguments are and how untrue her statements are about what she and others have posted. Most other members are not afflicted with her reading comprehension problems to the degree that she is. Unfortunately for her the thread is here for all to read and comprehend, if they want to.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

The one thing that people like Trixie seem to forget is that all the posts are here for anyone to review, and anyone can see just how week her arguments are and how untrue her statements are about what she and others have posted. Most other members are not afflicted with her reading comprehension problems to the degree that she is. Unfortunately for her the thread is here for all to read and comprehend, if they want to.

All talk and no game. You have a trend of making blanket statements but with zero proof to back them up. It's a sign of sheer laziness. I gave you a chance to defend Buddhism, you talked about the supreme goal of "Universal Mind" but offered no description or clarity. I assume the "Universal Mind" is something that does not last after physical death.
Therefore, I don't view Buddhism as the ultimate form of salvation. If you feel that because I don't view Buddhism as the ultimate form of salvation that makes me full of shit, well then you know what they say about opinions. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

The purpose of this thread was to ascertain whether Buddhism was the ultimate form of salvation. It has been ascertained. What you say is shitposting, plain and simple, without merit or value, and nothing to back it up, as per usual. It's lazy, annoying, and simple. Ain't nobody got time for shittalkers who never bother to back up their claims. That's childish juvenile shit.

You see, if it wasn't for simple minded peons like you, humans would have dropped their naysaying attitudes already. If everyone united as one and put non-existence as their supreme goal, we'd have it within a few centuries from now. But instead you have to raze me with the pathetic insults and the stupid games, because you have nothing better to do than hate on superior women and slowdown divine progress I guess.

For example, I was wrong about one thing recently - the laser physics. I forgot about cone radiation. Did thedoc - the noble bringer of truth and light bother to correct me on this obvious fact? Would it hurt thedoc just be honest, and tell the truth for a few moments? No, he'd rather sit back in his rocking chair high horse rather than correct a simple mistake. To thedoc, he is right simply because in his mind, he believes so. He is not interested in furthering science, debate or divine progress, just making peanut gallery comments.

[mtmynd1]

Trixie: "I gave you a chance to defend Buddhism.."

Really? How decent of you. What other treasures have you brought to the boards? Anything we should know about that is beyond our comprehension?

Mz Maturity, your comments within this last post use such superlative language such as, "assholes", "shitposting", "shittalkers", "childish juvenile shit", "simple minded peons" and then counter your own cheap words by making the statement "you have nothing better to do than hate on superior women and slowdown divine progress I guess."

Very comical! There goes that humility right outta your arse. Therein lies the root of your personal problems, trixie-lips, you openly refer to yourself as "great and wise" and one of the "superior women" to name but a few accolades you've tossed around to glam yourself in defense of your nonsensical comments you so love to write. Do you really enjoy hearing yourself speak? Apparently so...

I don't believe any of these comments from thedoc or myself and others are personal attacks on you but rather attempts at awakening you to a higher level of consciousness, akin to the Zen monk tossing his student out the window and jumping on his chest asking "Do you understand NOW?" If you have a serious interest in Buddhism you are not going to gain any insight by asking questions that aren't pertinent or have any basis to the subject. Buddhism is not only about intellectual understanding but includes one's intelligence to recognize truth.

[Blaggard]

The ultimate salvation to me an agnostic atheist, is to have a mind of your own, know how to use it, and follow some sort of moral code, perhaps with a large order of having fun aka hedonism. That is of course subjective, I think all religions are fascinating from the perspective of my God is bigger than your god or gods though. I just, knowing a fair deal about religion, don't take them at all that seriously, I pick and chose the moral message from Buddhism to Jainism, to Tao and so on.

probably achieved may be 2 of the above, 3 if I am charitable to myself.

"Confucius he say go to bed with itchy ass, wake up with smelly finger."

Some Confucianist dude.

[thedoc]

Buddhism does not preach salvation, it teaches the striving for enlightenment, which is a bit different. Even "striving" is the wrong word, but language is mostly inadequate to describe the teachings of Zen Buddhism, which is to not "try" but to allow yourself to become enlightened by not being yourself and by not trying. A Buddhist monastery is not a place of doing, but rather a place of "not doing" so as to become enlightened.

[tbieter]

Trixie IS the highest level unicorn!

Why? Simple.

I seem to be the only one making videos interested in Non-existence. The rest of you, cling to life like poop clings to Uranus. Even suicidal people think that performing some action (suicide) will somehow magically transcend them into less suffering. Suicide is still clinging to delusion, they believe in a better life, or they believe in a fairy tale (the idea that killing their body will also magically kill consciousness itself.)

Even Buddhists. (Death of ignorance, death of ego, death of delusion=Suicide=You believe suicide will transcend you into less suffering)

So I have some questions for you.

Lots of Buddhists like to parrot his works and give their own spin. Like "life is suffering - BUT not all the time".
Life is suffering, and ain't that the bottoom line?
You buddhists say you are happy, and at a peace.
Isn't peace boring? Theres a reason humans war. Thankfully, there is no more need for war, we have videogames now.
You buddhists say you are above sex, yet an advanced alien civilization thought the same thing. Eons later they are trying to modify their DNA again to enjoy sexual pleasures!
This makes me greater than both the aliens, and the buddhists!

But the real reason I am greater lies below.

You teach the wisdom of the Buddha to promote peace, wisdom, understanding, non-attachment, realization of the Infinite. But at the end of the day, what good does that do you?

You're just a streamer floating about in the wind. Tell me something...When Buddha died, did he achieve non-existence?

If he didn't achieve non-existence, then he is floating about like a streamer in the winds of life.

And all life is suffering, even happiness. Didn't the devil, cat in the hat, and the joker already teach you those things? Even peace. Especially peace...how boring. Though I don't advocate war because it interferes with scientific progress (although it has helped science in the past, I think the curve is going downhill now.) If theres one thing I detest, it's censorship. And to kill a man is a form of censorship.

But if peace is suffering, then isn't crying fun? People love crying and being miserable. Happiness is misery, crying is misery, peace of mind is misery.

Apparently I have to say it again, because it went one ear out the other. LIFE IS SUFFERING.

So my question to you, is did Buddha achieve non-existence, or did he not?
And if he didn't, then what are you guys doing with your lives? Honestly.
Are you guys in some sort of supreme existence where even happiness and flatness are not forms of suffering?
Some kind of superhuman brain, superior to the angels, gods, and even aliens?
...

This article appeared in my morning newspaper:
"Party functionaries were incensed by the exiled Dalai Lama's recent speculation that he might end his spiritual lineage and not reincarnate. That would confound the Chinese government's plans to engineer a succession that would produce a putative 15th Dalai Lama who accepts China's presence and policies in Tibet. Their anger welled up Wednesday, as it had a day earlier.

Zhu Weiqun, a Communist Party official who has long dealt with Tibetan issues, said in Beijing on Wednesday that the Dalai Lama had, essentially, no say over whether he was reincarnated. That was ultimately for the Chinese government to decide, he said, according to a transcript of his comments on the website of People's Daily, the party's main newspaper."
http://www.twincities.com/News/National ... -afterlife

I have thought that reincarnation was inevitable, not optional with either the human being or the political party.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Do you really enjoy hearing yourself speak?

Why wouldn't I?

Apparently so...

I don't believe any of these comments from thedoc or myself and others are personal attacks on you

Keep believing your delusions. It's obvious for anyone to see, people with helpful advice don't go around acting like condescending jackasses. "Trixie-lips"? Get out of here.

defending buddism+makes no sense

It makes perfect sense, unless you don't have any perception of sense.
And yes, buddhism itself is on review. I question the validity of a religion which does not bring any discernable salvation. My goal is to but point out that it is not the solution people want to worship and dedicate themself to. In essence, I want to give it "hobby status".

dalia lama claims he wont reincarnate

If that is the same dalia lama that I'm thinking of, he is a clown who believes that "bad dogs" reincarnate into dogs, but "good civilized dogs" reincarnate to humans. If he claims to be able to not reincarnate, I doubt he could say it with a straight face.

[tbieter]

tbieter wrote:
dalia lama claims he wont reincarnate

If that is the same dalia lama that I'm thinking of, he is a clown who believes that "bad dogs" reincarnate into dogs, but "good civilized dogs" reincarnate to humans. If he claims to be able to not reincarnate, I doubt he could say it with a straight face.
There is only one DL at a time. and the present one should be respected.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnat ... efinitions

[thedoc]

I have thought that reincarnation was inevitable, not optional with either the human being or the political party.

In Buddhism, to achieve enlightenment and reach nirvana is to escape the cycle of reincarnation and rebirth. However one who has achieved such a state can choose to be reborn in order to lead others to enlightenment, it's an act of compassion for the DL to be reborn. But in this case the DL is denying the Chinese the ability to deceive the Tibetan people which would be a greater kindness.

[thedoc]

It's obvious for anyone to see, people with helpful advice don't go around acting like condescending jackasses. "Trixie-lips"? Get out of here.

Trixie, you should read your own posts sometime, they apply more to you than anyone else.

[thedoc]

If that is the same dalia lama that I'm thinking of, he is a clown who believes that "bad dogs" reincarnate into dogs, but "good civilized dogs" reincarnate to humans. If he claims to be able to not reincarnate, I doubt he could say it with a straight face.

The DL is just restating basic Buddhist belief about reincarnation, and I believe he is always smiling and generally happy about everything. Only people like you are down and angry about everything.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

I have thought that reincarnation was inevitable, not optional with either the human being or the political party.

In Buddhism, to achieve enlightenment and reach nirvana is to escape the cycle of reincarnation and rebirth. However one who has achieved such a state can choose to be reborn in order to lead others to enlightenment, it's an act of compassion for the DL to be reborn. But in this case the DL is denying the Chinese the ability to deceive the Tibetan people which would be a greater kindness.

Bullshit. I believe nirvana ends upon bodily death. But if what you are saying is true, I'll elevate it to above hobby status. Also, no cheats. If nirvana translates to turning oneself into an eternal being, no dice. My rules are to transcend life all together, eternal life in another form doesn't cut it.

There is only one DL at a time. and the present one should be respected.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnat ... efinitions

I am no respecter of personas. If I remember correctly, that guy did nothing to stop people from being hunted down and killed in his name, simply because they did not believe in him. I do not worship a llama.

If he can smile and feel happy about it afterwards then good for him, he is a selfish prik just like everyone else. You say "only I" can feel angry about the world well in that case how is the DL special, just like every other happy go lucky prik in this place who doesn't give a care about anything or anybody, they'll dump toxic waste in his sacred rivers and he's happy as can be. Pacifist gook.

[thedoc]

Bullshit. I believe nirvana ends upon bodily death. But if what you are saying is true, I'll elevate it to above hobby status. Also, no cheats. If nirvana translates to turning oneself into an eternal being, no dice. My rules are to transcend life all together, eternal life in another form doesn't cut it.

Add Buddhism to the list of concepts you totally do not understand, willful ignorance is unacceptable.

FYI, you don't make the rules. You don't even follow your own rules that you make and try to foist onto others.

FYI II, you'll probably come back as a "bad dog".

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Bullshit. I believe nirvana ends upon bodily death. But if what you are saying is true, I'll elevate it to above hobby status. Also, no cheats. If nirvana translates to turning oneself into an eternal being, no dice. My rules are to transcend life all together, eternal life in another form doesn't cut it.

Add Buddhism to the list of concepts you totally do not understand, willful ignorance is unacceptable.

FYI, you don't make the rules. You don't even follow your own rules that you make and try to foist onto others.

FYI II, you'll probably come back as a "bad dog".

Thus explains the sheer delusions of the average Buddhist. Logically, how are dogs worse than humans? Humans are as bad as you can get, so logically speaking, why would a "good dog" reincarnate into a human anyway? Human standards are completely twisted, they can do bad things but call themself "good people" as long as they remain ignorant of it. Like Mario Jumpman Mario is described as "good" (when he kills children for money.) I don't eat meat, yet I am bad and everyone else is good, because who says so? Zombie Hitler?

Also, you don't "get" the rules. You don't even get the game. The game is for you to prove to me scientifically, why nirvana will do what you claim. The rules pertain to this "game". But of course you don't wish to address any of my arguments, because that would be "scientific" and religions are above scientific scrutiny. Scientists will never "understand" religious concepts, because scientists are willfully ignorant.

Let me clarify, the game is explaining "nirvana" in a scientific manner, the rules are as I prescribed. So far you are failing the game.

[thedoc]

Let me clarify, the game is explaining "nirvana" in a scientific manner, the rules are as I prescribed. So far you are failing the game.

It's meaningless, Nirvana is not scientific, and only a fool would ask that it be explained in those terms. There is no scientific explanation of Nirvana. It is only explainable in religious terms, which is another area that you have no understanding of.