Time travelling is impossible.
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David Handeye
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According Titor, the premise of time travel is the worlds interpretation of quantum physics, for which every situation that can evolve in more than one direction, indeed goes in every possible direction, and each possibility is the point of origin of a new parallel universe or worldline. Time traveling, you do not really enter into your past because the presence of someone in the past makes a change and generates a new set of expanding worldlines. You enter in the past rather than a worldline closely related, so, the worldline Titor describes as his "past" is very similar, but not identical, to our present and near future. So none of his predictions are inevitable for us. In some worldlines descending from ours, it is likely that his predictions are fully verified, in others not, and in a third set partially verified. I find very disquieting these words, «Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret. No one likes you in the future. This time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep. Perhaps you should be less concerned about me and more concerned about that.»
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We can't go back in time to change the past, but we can rewrite time in my view by resolving its foundations, so instead of pyramids with sands from the hourglass under them, we can focus the river of time into new flows by standing it on purple rocks from an Overseer's royalty on green-glass, ever being cut into its finest forms by the edges of evolution over time!
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David Handeye
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David Handeye
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What do you mean exactly by resolving the fountations of the time?Seizing wrote:We can't go back in time to change the past, but we can rewrite time in my view by resolving its foundations, so instead of pyramids with sands from the hourglass under them, we can focus the river of time into new flows by standing it on purple rocks from an Overseer's royalty on green-glass, ever being cut into its finest forms by the edges of evolution over time!
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People like Tixie are best kept on ignore or just don't read any of her posts, they're usually complete babble.GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:Bet? I don't understand. Do you mean jump a few days earlier and play the lottery? I don't think he would be entertained by human money or material things.David Handeye wrote: Well, I think he could have been just a little more clever, in the sense that before trying to sabote the LHC experiments he could have made some kind of bet, before.
Also, it seems like the machine was on an auto-timer, it might have only be only set to allow for a maximum of a few hours before auto-jumping. (This would be a safety feature to decrease the chances of something going wrong.)
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I don't think long time travels are possible, but short, like micro seconds, the further back the more energy or whatever is required.
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David Handeye
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This is something rational about time travelling. I know at Cern are making experiments in that way. It certainly is a starting point.HexHammer wrote:I don't think long time travels are possible, but short, like micro seconds, the further back the more energy or whatever is required.
According to theoretical physics curving the space you should be able to curve the time as well.
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There is no doubt that backwards travel is a contradiction in meaning.David Handeye wrote:I don't know if time travelling is possible, or if it will ever be possible, but what I know is that if that would ever be possible, we would never be able to know that. For a simple reasoning of mine: if time travelling would be possible, we should already be able to know that.
I think right now, in this precise moment, there are people living in 2136, or in 3125, or in 2089. So, if time travelling would be possible, someone had certainly come back. Not necessarily to our time, maybe in I century, or during French Revolution, or just to stop Hitler, and so on. In any case we could never be able to know that, because even if a "time policeman" had been able to kill Hitler, for example, we should already know this, but we don't, so, we have two possibilities: 1 - killing Hitler has started a new branch in time, not ours; 2 - killing Hitler (or someone else for him) causes a continuous, instantaneous changing on our contemporaneous history books, culture, memories, and so on.
In any case, we'll never know. So that would be like if time travelling was impossible, for us.
One thing is know is that we can travel forwards in time. We are all of us doing that at this very moment. The faster we travel the faster we travel into the future. At close to light speeds, were it possible, we would be able to travel into Earth's future, traveling 100 years and ageing only a few.
But we could never return to the present.
I've never bought the "start a new branch" in time, because you would effectively be creating an entire universe of matter and energy, which is against the most basic laws of nature; but even a 'change' in things would also involve transgression of the law of thermodynamics
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The energy required to start a whole new universe would be astronomical.Hobbes' Choice wrote: I've never bought the "start a new branch" in time, because you would effectively be creating an entire universe of matter and energy, which is against the most basic laws of nature; but even a 'change' in things would also involve transgression of the law of thermodynamics
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Actually close to light speed, if possible, time should stop.Hobbes' Choice wrote:There is no doubt that backwards travel is a contradiction in meaning.
One thing is know is that we can travel forwards in time. We are all of us doing that at this very moment. The faster we travel the faster we travel into the future. At close to light speeds, were it possible, we would be able to travel into Earth's future, traveling 100 years and ageing only a few.
But we could never return to the present.
I've never bought the "start a new branch" in time, because you would effectively be creating an entire universe of matter and energy, which is against the most basic laws of nature; but even a 'change' in things would also involve transgression of the law of thermodynamics
I think starting a new branch doesn't mean starting an entire other universe. It should yet be, according to the parallel universes theory.
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It's one thing to not believe my story about the traveler? But is it babble? No, it is not. Not to mention your attitude is prevalent modern trend of society. Don't like what someone has to say? Why think about it? Just click ignore. Why bother to learn anything new, when you can stick to your old beliefs. Then society turns into a realm of trembling imperials afraid to say the slightest opinion if it might be perceived in the wrong way, by the denizen vaders (which are the every american man, and every american woman.)HexHammer wrote:People like Tixie are best kept on ignore or just don't read any of her posts, they're usually complete babble.GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:
Bet? I don't understand. Do you mean jump a few days earlier and play the lottery? I don't think he would be entertained by human money or material things.
Also, it seems like the machine was on an auto-timer, it might have only be only set to allow for a maximum of a few hours before auto-jumping. (This would be a safety feature to decrease the chances of something going wrong.)
"You say the sky is blue? That reminds me of a 4th grade bully who liked the color blue!" BLOCK.
Did you check your PMbox? It's important stuff.Seizing wrote:Time travel stuff
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GreatandWiseTrixie
I've seen many of your posts, and you constantly speak straight out of your ass, you speak like a drunk teen that think it knows it all, but it's all incoherent babble.
I've seen many of your posts, and you constantly speak straight out of your ass, you speak like a drunk teen that think it knows it all, but it's all incoherent babble.
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Bullshit. I try to cater my posts to at least a 5th grade reading level, to accommodate for the comprehension level of these forums. It's one thing to disagree with something, but to say it's incoherent? Get out of here.HexHammer wrote:GreatandWiseTrixie
I've seen many of your posts, and you constantly speak straight out of your ass, you speak like a drunk teen that think it knows it all, but it's all incoherent babble.
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What you are really trying to say, is that you put things in lay terms, which might be true, but the result is still the same, it's incoherent babble.GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:Bullshit. I try to cater my posts to at least a 5th grade reading level, to accommodate for the comprehension level of these forums. It's one thing to disagree with something, but to say it's incoherent? Get out of here.HexHammer wrote:GreatandWiseTrixie
I've seen many of your posts, and you constantly speak straight out of your ass, you speak like a drunk teen that think it knows it all, but it's all incoherent babble.
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incoherent - expressed in an incomprehensible or confusing way; unclear.HexHammer wrote:What you are really trying to say, is that you put things in lay terms, which might be true, but the result is still the same, it's incoherent babble.GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:Bullshit. I try to cater my posts to at least a 5th grade reading level, to accommodate for the comprehension level of these forums. It's one thing to disagree with something, but to say it's incoherent? Get out of here.HexHammer wrote:GreatandWiseTrixie
I've seen many of your posts, and you constantly speak straight out of your ass, you speak like a drunk teen that think it knows it all, but it's all incoherent babble.
How can something in layman's terms be incoherent? It's like insulting yourself to say that you can't understand my teachings. What exactly don't you understand? Or is this just bloated HexHyperbole meant to irritate me.
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When everything you post is word salad in layman's terms.GreatandWiseTrixie wrote: How can something in layman's terms be incoherent?
Or is this just bloated HexHyperbole meant to irritate me.
It seems to be working.