The MatrixPenumbra theory...A horrifying theory...

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Well in this day and age, people are into computers. It's all the rage...

Someday they plan on uploading our minds into computers, like a digital utopia...

When the world's falling apart...You get a fresh start...

You start a new life inside a virtual reality, a computer device...

BUT

What if we are already inside of a computer right now? And that we were part of an alien civilization, that created THIS life as an alternate reality? They created THIS world to entertain and escape them from their own boring and malaidic existence. And in turn, the civilization who created us, was also just a simulation made by a bored and depressed alien race to escape from their lives. And so forth, on and on.

And then, we are just going to repeat the cycle, over and over, like a FRACTAL.


Well you say, I am old, I am not going to live long enough to be uploaded. How do you know you won't reincarnate into another life and then be uploaded? How do you know that after you are dead, they wont clone your DNA and resuscitate you? A piece of hair one of your friends or lovers secretly kept?

The nightmare continues...What can be done to end this madness...Is there no escape from this Hell?

[attofishpi]

How do you know you won't reincarnate into another life and then be uploaded? How do you know that after you are dead, they wont clone your DNA and resuscitate you? A piece of hair one of your friends or lovers secretly kept?

The nightmare continues...What can be done to end this madness...Is there no escape from this Hell?

Because it wouldn't be ME.

It's reasoning like this that you should at least omit the 'wise' part of your user id.

Lets say i still exist and some genius scientist i 'made love' to took a strand of my hair and replicated me...it wouldn't be ME, it would be a clone of me, with which they can fuck in all the ways i would never have allowed (or not ).

[Bill Wiltrack]

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When you say, it wouldn't be ME...who are YOU?...what do YOU consider to be YOU?




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[attofishpi]

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When you say, it wouldn't be ME...who are YOU?...what do YOU consider to be YOU?




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When you've been pulled apart and inside out by the one thing that knows you better that you...God\'god', i assure you, i know myself more far more than most, perhaps all.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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...so,...a god pulled you apart, inside-out, then put you back together?


...and you know yourself better for that?


Better than anyone else?



...what is this god you speak of?





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[GreatandWiseTrixie]

How do you know you won't reincarnate into another life and then be uploaded? How do you know that after you are dead, they wont clone your DNA and resuscitate you? A piece of hair one of your friends or lovers secretly kept?

The nightmare continues...What can be done to end this madness...Is there no escape from this Hell?

Because it wouldn't be ME.

It's reasoning like this that you should at least omit the 'wise' part of your user id.

Lets say i still exist and some genius scientist i 'made love' to took a strand of my hair and replicated me...it wouldn't be ME, it would be a clone of me, with which they can fuck in all the ways i would never have allowed (or not ).

Boring. Seems like someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed, thinking negative hateful thoughts (about an old lover who didn't return the favor?) And decided to take it out on me for some odd reason.

You're missing the reasoning behind why I even mentioned that. It was dealing with reincarnation, and the belief that "I'm safe from this Penumbra theory, I'll be dead before then." So by missing the entire of my point of my comment, you miss the entire point completely. Think before you speak.

Not to mention, how do you even know for sure that you wouldn't reincarnate as that clone?

Also, answer Bill's question.

[attofishpi]

YOU ARE AS RATIONAL AS A RETARD THATS TAKEN LSD.

NO WONDER INTELLIGENT PEOPLE LIKE ME CANT BE BOTHERED AND THIS FORUM IS LEFT TO THE SHIT THAT DRIVELS FROM THE LIKES OF YOU AND YOUR KEYBOARD.

Maybe i'll go to bed now and get out tomorrow on the side of DIPSY LAND and join you in the land of TARD!

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

YOU ARE AS RATIONAL AS A RETARD THATS TAKEN LSD.

NO WONDER INTELLIGENT PEOPLE LIKE ME CANT BE BOTHERED AND THIS FORUM IS LEFT TO THE SHIT THAT DRIVELS FROM THE LIKES OF YOU AND YOUR KEYBOARD.

Maybe i'll go to bed now and get out tomorrow on the side of DIPSY LAND and join you in the land of TARD!

Way to use caps lock to prove your point about being rational. Are you going to answer Bill's question or just act like a spoiled brat.

[attofishpi]

YOU ARE AS RATIONAL AS A RETARD THATS TAKEN LSD.

NO WONDER INTELLIGENT PEOPLE LIKE ME CANT BE BOTHERED AND THIS FORUM IS LEFT TO THE SHIT THAT DRIVELS FROM THE LIKES OF YOU AND YOUR KEYBOARD.

Maybe i'll go to bed now and get out tomorrow on the side of DIPSY LAND and join you in the land of TARD!

Way to use caps lock to prove your point about being rational. Are you going to answer Bill's question or just act like a spoiled brat.

Wanting me to answer Bills question only proves that you have little wisdom, that you are merely a cretin still searching for an understanding of God.

If you want that answer then read anything i have written about this entity, as i know of its existence.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

YOU ARE AS RATIONAL AS A RETARD THATS TAKEN LSD.

NO WONDER INTELLIGENT PEOPLE LIKE ME CANT BE BOTHERED AND THIS FORUM IS LEFT TO THE SHIT THAT DRIVELS FROM THE LIKES OF YOU AND YOUR KEYBOARD.

Maybe i'll go to bed now and get out tomorrow on the side of DIPSY LAND and join you in the land of TARD!

Way to use caps lock to prove your point about being rational. Are you going to answer Bill's question or just act like a spoiled brat.

Wanting me to answer Bills question only proves that you have little wisdom, that you are merely a cretin still searching for an understanding of God.

If you want that answer then read anything i have written about this entity, as i know of its existence.

Already read your website. Has the thought ever occurred to you of being polite? Has the thought ever occured to you, that I wanted you to answer for Bill's sake? No it wouldn't, because you are an asscrack who's been brainwashed by family guy to turn everything into a pissing contest. If anyone says something to you, you automatically assume they are wrong, and the stupidest possible opinions, and give them a cheap string of insults attached because of how shitsure you are about them. For example, when I mentioned the reincarnation bit, you assumed that I meant you would retain your personality, or something along those lines. I blame the english language, modern culture, and your desire to instigate rather than educate.

By the way, tell this God of your's to eat shit. Not that it would understand, or care if it could understand. This is all part of it's plan, no matter if the plan is horrible. It's all part of the plan.

[Arising_uk]

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What if we are already inside of a computer right now? And that we were part of an alien civilization, that created THIS life as an alternate reality? They created THIS world to entertain and escape them from their own boring and malaidic existence. And in turn, the civilization who created us, was also just a simulation made by a bored and depressed alien race to escape from their lives. And so forth, on and on. ...

How would an alien civilisation know how to make us?

More probable that we're in an ancestor-sim, so rapture of the nerds it is.

Also why is it assumed as a simulation and not an emulation?

[Ginkgo]

Well in this day and age, people are into computers. It's all the rage...

Someday they plan on uploading our minds into computers, like a digital utopia...

When the world's falling apart...You get a fresh start...

You start a new life inside a virtual reality, a computer device...

BUT

What if we are already inside of a computer right now? And that we were part of an alien civilization, that created THIS life as an alternate reality? They created THIS world to entertain and escape them from their own boring and malaidic existence. And in turn, the civilization who created us, was also just a simulation made by a bored and depressed alien race to escape from their lives. And so forth, on and on.

And then, we are just going to repeat the cycle, over and over, like a FRACTAL.


Well you say, I am old, I am not going to live long enough to be uploaded. How do you know you won't reincarnate into another life and then be uploaded? How do you know that after you are dead, they wont clone your DNA and resuscitate you? A piece of hair one of your friends or lovers secretly kept?

The nightmare continues...What can be done to end this madness...Is there no escape from this Hell?

O.K Bouwsma provides an interesting argument as to why there can be no such things as absolute deception when it comes to dreaming, brains in a vat/jars, the matrix or evil aliens.

www.users.humboldt.edu/jwpowell/okbcartev.pdf

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

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BUT

What if we are already inside of a computer right now? And that we were part of an alien civilization, that created THIS life as an alternate reality? They created THIS world to entertain and escape them from their own boring and malaidic existence. And in turn, the civilization who created us, was also just a simulation made by a bored and depressed alien race to escape from their lives. And so forth, on and on. ...

How would an alien civilisation know how to make us?

More probable that we're in an ancestor-sim, so rapture of the nerds it is.

Also why is it assumed as a simulation and not an emulation?

By aliens I don't mean space aliens from this universe, I mean the creators of this universe, who would seem alien to us.

What is an ancestor sim?

Emulation is more or less an exact copy, simulation is a degraded approximation of a copy.

O.K Bouwsma provides an interesting argument as to why there can be no such things as absolute deception when it comes to dreaming, brains in a vat/jars, the matrix or evil aliens.

http://www.users.humboldt.edu/jwpowell/okbcartev.pdf

Humorous story.

[Arising_uk]

By aliens I don't mean space aliens from this universe, I mean the creators of this universe, who would seem alien to us.

What 'creators of this universe'? Anyhoo, no they could be our descendants, either way if they are running such a simulation or emulation then it's unlike that they would be that alien to us.

What is an ancestor sim?

You are very out-of-date? It's what the nerds may run in the future if they actually achieve their rapture.

Emulation is more or less an exact copy, simulation is a degraded approximation of a copy.

Not really, a simulator concentrates upon recreating the behaviour of something an emulator the actual workings of something which also then produces the behaviour.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

What is an ancestor sim?

You are very out-of-date? It's what the nerds may run in the future if they actually achieve their rapture.

What is that a futurama thing or something? Never heard of nerdrapture.

What 'creators of this universe'? Anyhoo, no they could be our descendants

They wouldn't be our real descendants theyd just make approximate virtual clones of us based on our DNA samples.