A Philosophy of Mind

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Hello doggy.
My friend Noddy says you really are a pathetic creature - whatever that means.
Big Ears says that you are a pathetic bully and that this is actually the sum of your life and that you are so fixated with removing Barbara from the Philosophy Now Forum that you have devoted a HUGE part of your life to the task.

Mr Plod says you are a misguided little puppy, what just does not understand. No , poor doggy just does not understand anything metaphysical or spiritual. Poor puppy.

I think that you are just a grumpy, bitter old man, sitting in his dirty underpants in his bedsit in Cambridge, wasting his life on proving a point.

ohhh! What a cheeky Golly I am. :shock:
oh dear I forgot. You don't know who I am but I know who you are.
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ProfessorGolly wrote: I think that you are just a grumpy, bitter old man, sitting in his dirty underpants in his bedsit in Cambridge,
If that were the case Arising , I would expect an invitation from you for a date on Saturday night.
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Please. :roll:

Has it become appropriate to talk about dirty underpants in the presence of ladies ?
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Lusia Mousky wrote:Please. :roll:

Has it become appropriate to talk about dirty underpants in the presence of ladies ?
Arising (Prof Golly) is a bi-sexual, but I think calling him a lady is going too far.
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Having so many evils, will not the most miserable of men be still more miserable in a public station? Master of others when he is not master of himself; like a sick man who is compelled to be an athlete; the meanest of slaves and the most abject of flatterers; wanting all things, and never able to satisfy his desires; always in fear and distraction, like the State of which he is the representative. His jealous, hateful, faithless temper grows worse with command; he is more and more faithless, envious, unrighteous,—the most wretched of men, a misery to himself and to others. And so let us have a final trial and proclamation; need we hire a herald, or shall I proclaim the result? ‘Made the proclamation yourself.’ The son of Ariston (the best) is of opinion that the best and justest of men is also the happiest, and that this is he who is the most royal master of himself; and that the unjust man is he who is the greatest tyrant
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Straw Dog. wrote:...
If that were the case Arising , I would expect an invitation from you for a date on Saturday night.
Delusional as ever.
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Straw Dog. wrote:Arising (Prof Golly) is a bi-sexual, but I think calling him a lady is going too far.
And again.
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Barbara Brooks wrote:Having so many evils, will not the most miserable of men be still more miserable in a public station? Master of others when he is not master of himself; like a sick man who is compelled to be an athlete; the meanest of slaves and the most abject of flatterers; wanting all things, and never able to satisfy his desires; always in fear and distraction, like the State of which he is the representative. His jealous, hateful, faithless temper grows worse with command; he is more and more faithless, envious, unrighteous,—the most wretched of men, a misery to himself and to others. And so let us have a final trial and proclamation; need we hire a herald, or shall I proclaim the result? ‘Made the proclamation yourself.’ The son of Ariston (the best) is of opinion that the best and justest of men is also the happiest, and that this is he who is the most royal master of himself; and that the unjust man is he who is the greatest tyrant

That is great writing.I mean you have come on leaps and bounds with your philosophy and the syntax is excellent.

It's writing that Plato would be proud of. If only he had written The Republic in that way it would be a better work. Well done, Arising will be proud of you.
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Actually Socrates believed having so many evils, will not the most miserable of people be still more miserable in a public station? Master of others when he is not master of self; like a sick man who is compelled to be an athlete; the meanest of slaves and the most abject of flatterers; wanting all things, and never able to satisfy his desires; always in fear and distraction, like the State of which he is the representative. They jealous, hateful, faithless temper grows worse with command; he is more and more faithless, envious, unrighteous, —the most wretched of men, a misery to himself and to others. The happiest is the most royal master of self; and that the unjust man is he who is the greatest bully.
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Socrates was also of the opinion that the best and just of people are also the happiest, and that this is you the most royal master of self; and that the bully person is he who is the greatest bully of self and of peers feedis up the beasts and starves the human. The maintainer of justice, on the other hand, tries to strengthen the human being nourishing the gentle principle within, and making an alliance with the brave heart, in order that self may be able to keep down the many-headed hydra, and bring all self into one with each other the human, the lion and the beast, whether in relation to pleasure, honour, or advantage, the just person is right, and the bulling person is wrong.
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So what you are saying is that contrary opinion is always a crude form of bullying ? By bullying ,I mean, harassment that has no substance behind it.
By substance I mean no legitimate cause. For example , a freedom fighter is not a bully because he believes that he is participating in a just cause.
The State, which attempts to subdue the freedom fighter, is not a bully because it believes it is defending a just cause . On the other hand, the racist is a bully ,because he is antipathetic on the grounds of one's skin colour or culture. He is gratuitous.

So if the Dog says, you talk nonsense, in the just cause of philosophical lucidity, then he is not a bully either?
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Strw Dog,

Philosophy is equivalent to a long course of mental discipline conscious life that moves along the highway of knowledge. Only by labor can this profound scientific insight that can be won.

This is not common ordinary intelligence or that kind of institution of higher education where reason is flawed by idleness, and self-conceit. Reason is the property of self-consciousness, when the right time comes, and hence never appears too soon, when the public is ripe to receive it.

Philosophy is full and rich of meaning, which lie deep down in the heart, and the heart of all feels expresses things that are ultimate no one can take exception and nothing further can be said moves along the highway of truth as an inspiration of profound and creative higher scientific insight that can only be won by the labor.

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True, sometimes you have to struggle to understand nmy writing. I am well aware that it requires rigorous thinking provoke thinking.

In my defense I claim I am a true lover of knowledge always striving after, will not rest in mere appearance only, but I will go on the ardent path and not be derailed, nor abated that is my kindred mind.
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Barbara Brooks wrote:True, sometimes you have to struggle to understand nmy writing. I am well aware that it requires rigorous thinking provoke thinking.

In my defense I claim I am a true lover of knowledge always striving after, will not rest in mere appearance only, but I will go on the ardent path and not be derailed, nor abated that is my kindred mind.

It is self deception not self consciousness . You are in the grip of a delusion that you are a philosopher with a cryptic message.
I would warn any student coming here to dismiss your writing as the pathological
“salad talk” typical of a bi-polar condition.

That no one can make any sense of it, is evidence that it is meaningless waffle.
No one of any intellectual standing will be able to understand why Rick Lewis has allowed this nonsense to go on.
His idea of a democratic forum is free speech and yet he routinely deletes
words and posts that he finds offensive or superfluous.

In society there have to be rules . There is no such thing as “free speech” only a perception of what free speech amounts to.
Rick Lewis should get a grip and lock this thread.
If he ever wants to be taken seriously as philosopher then this is what he should do.
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Straw Dog. wrote:BARBARA BROOKS IS A CRAZY WOMAN AND SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO POST!!!
Straw Dog,

It's true that one must sometimes struggle to understand my writing. This is only because my writing requires rigorous thinking. I write in order to provoke thinking.

In my defense, I claim I am a true lover of knowledge and I am always striving to become more knowledgeable. I will not rest in mere appearances. Instead I will take the arduous [replaces ardent???] path and not be derailed. Nor will my search abate for that it is my nature to attempt to enlighten kindred minds [???].

Love,
Barbara Brooks
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