~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Forces ~

[SpheresOfBalance]

No kimberly, ...

Who?
Kimberly!

for the slight of mind, that's me getting tired of your fear and avoidance.

What psycho-babble fantasy are you living in now?
That you say so, what a laugh!

To deny yourself and your name, ...

Its not my name so I'm denying nothing.
Yes it is, I still have both your earlier admission, and the initial greeting from way back in '09, or was that '07? But who really gives a crap, but you. So what you're name is Kimberly, I could care less, the others probably feel the same way.

what is that anyway? ...

Truth and reality. Try it someday.
So you're the pot?

You fearing your shadow?

Nope, just you projecting.
The psycho babble of denial, well what do you know?

The woman of talk-fest, or in other words, the endless denial, of oh so many words of contradiction, so as not to have to face themselves. I would be proud to be a woman, Kimberly! After all they are the life's blood of humanity.

And here we have it, the sexist chauvinistic patriarch writ large.
In a twisted mind, sure!

You shout this name as you think you have some hook into me from whatever cobbled together psycho-babble view you hold
It's you that is up about something. Here let me clue you in, it's only a button, if and only if, it's so called wearer, reacts like it is.

but in reality it just exposes your issues with women, I told you it was a your mother issue.
I have no Mother issue! State your case or stop blathering.

Are you proud to be a man?
I'm not a man, and shall never be a man, I've always considered myself a male.

Speaking as a man I find no point in being proud of an accident of birth and think that such statements as 'I would be proud to be a woman' patronising bullshit as your characterisation of the female is the typical one of woman as breeder and ignores that it takes two to tango.
As usual the ship has sailed without you. As it's you that is the misogynist, denying them their due. Yet you are named Kimberly. Are you a bit confused?

Like the boob you wish me to be female so that you can place me in a safe little box in your head, laughable given you yak on about pigeon-holing so much.
So the button is real, OK "boob," if it makes you feel better! The more you react, your admission.

There is nothing to be ashamed of Kimberly, women are the life's blood of the human populace.

[Bill Wiltrack]

OMG!...OMFG!




...if we just found a Kimberly! - There is not anything wrong in that. Actually this is GREAT. Just so happens to justify my earlier post in a REAL tangible way...and perhaps, in a very REAL way we may have helped this individual member better connect with themselves...no matter if they chose a moniker or their real name.






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The URL feature is not working now but Gender Neutrality IS REAL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_neutrality

So, this is not a big thing - IT'S NOT A NEGATIVE THING. It's neutral.





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[SpheresOfBalance]

OMG!...OMFG!




...if we just found a Kimberly! - There is not anything wrong in that. Actually this is GREAT. Just so happens to justify my earlier post in a REAL tangible way...and perhaps, in a very REAL way we may have helped this individual member better connect with themselves...no matter if they chose a moniker or their real name.






........................................... Place Our Big Purple Circle Here





The URL feature is not working now but Gender Neutrality IS REAL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_neutrality

So, this is not a big thing - IT'S NOT A NEGATIVE THING. It's neutral.





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On paper that's great, I'm down with it. But unfortunately, in reality women have it tougher, while men have it easier. Of course I'm speaking of the fundamental reason for there being men and women in the first place. There's just no denying it! Unless of course one is either a liar or deluded.

[Arising_uk]

Kimberly!

Who's that?

That you say so, what a laugh!

Then the yolks on you.

Yes it is, ...

No it isn't.

I still have both your earlier admission, and the initial greeting from way back in '09, or was that '07? ...

Then you need to take your sexist psycho-babble goggles off and re-read them. Tell you what! Just post them here.

So who really gives a crap, ...

You! Very apparently.

but you. ...

Nah! As its not my name.

So what you're name is Kimberly, ...

But it isn't?

I could care less, the others probably feel the same way.

What others? Bill and Boob, sorry Bob, as they like you appear to care very much if they can identify their interlocutors as female as it allows them dismiss their thoughts. Much like your attempt here.

So you're the pot?

Yup! The puff of clarity in your insane little fantasy.

The psycho babble of denial, well what do you know?

Just thought I'd chat to you in your favourite box. Where will you stand if Livingstone's river has no source?

In a twisted mind, sure!

Nice of you to admit it.

It's you that is up about something. Here let me clue you in, it's only a button, if and only if, it's so called wearer, reacts like it is.

Let me clue you in, its not my name.

I have no Mother issue! State your case or stop blathering.

Why the shouting? Here let me clue you in, it's only a button, if and only if, it's so called wearer, reacts like it is.

But nah! I think if you ever return to finish your therapy I'll leave it to the shrink to discover this.

I'm not a man, and shall never be a man, I've always considered myself a male.

Can't argue with that as gender roles suck. Makes me wonder why you wish to assign them to women?

As usual the ship has sailed without you. As it's you that is the misogynist, denying them their due. Yet you are named Kimberly. Are you a bit confused?

Since thats not my name I find myself very unconfused. That your definition of women is as breeder I know who is the sexist here. Ask any mother that if it were possible to create their baby with all the benefits of the womb without the birth would they do so and you'll get a 'Fuckin' A I would!', although some would say 'Nah! I like the pregnant bit but can we make it so the birth is skipped' but thats women for you.

So the button is real, OK "boob," if it makes you feel better! The more you react, your admission.

This button is a figment of your psycho-babble fantasy. I wasn't calling you a tit, but upon reflection you certainly are turning out to be one, but was using my pet-name for Bob, as I've had pretty much the same conversation with him, its why I think this casual sexism is probably a culture-box thing. Maybe you should ask him what my name is as he knows.

is nothing to be ashamed of Kimberly, women are the life's blood of the human populace.

Nope, men and women are the source of the human populace. This faux idolisation of woman lends more weight to a your mother issue. If you get the chance in future bring it up with your therapist.

[Arising_uk]

OMG!...OMFG!

...if we just found a Kimberly! - There is not anything wrong in that. Actually this is GREAT. Just so happens to justify my earlier post in a REAL tangible way...and perhaps, in a very REAL way we may have helped this individual member better connect with themselves...no matter if they chose a moniker or their real name.

Ooo! Lookee here, you don't see that very often -
I saw a peanut stand, heard a rubber band,
And seen a needle wink its eye
But I be done seen about everything now
a Gnu in the peanut gallery.

So no, nothing here to justify your earlier post but a lot to justify my thought that this casual sexism that you, bob and spheres of bollocks express is just part of your cultural-box.

'There is not anything wrong in that', lmao! The Fraudians would just love you.

See all that nonsense about connecting with oneself - Gnu guff and all drawn from your inability to come to terms with your loss of faith. Do yourself a favour and get back upon your knees and kiss the Pope's ring as atheism is not suited to ex-theists who cannot come to terms with their loss. Like they say, once the RC church has had you you stay had or at least that it takes one with a stronger mind than yours to examine and re-examine ones earliest programmed beliefs. Of course you could start by actually reading some Philosophy but I doubt this will be happening any time soon.

The URL feature is not working now but Gender Neutrality IS REAL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_neutrality

So, this is not a big thing - IT'S NOT A NEGATIVE THING. It's neutral.

One's sex is different from one's gender.

Do you ever actually read the wiki links you post or do you just type terms into its search engine and then just post the link hoping that your betters have said something that might be apposite? I think that Wiki is a bit like travelling, it can broaden the mind but only if one has a mind to broaden.

So no Bill, you have still disproved your own post. Congratulations, even if it was by accident.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Kimberly!

Who's that?

That you say so, what a laugh!

Then the yolks on you.

Yes it is, ...

No it isn't.

I still have both your earlier admission, and the initial greeting from way back in '09, or was that '07? ...

Then you need to take your sexist psycho-babble goggles off and re-read them. Tell you what! Just post them here.

So who really gives a crap, ...

You! Very apparently.

but you. ...

Nah! As its not my name.

So what you're name is Kimberly, ...

But it isn't?

I could care less, the others probably feel the same way.

What others? Bill and Boob, sorry Bob, as they like you appear to care very much if they can identify their interlocutors as female as it allows them dismiss their thoughts. Much like your attempt here.

So you're the pot?

Yup! The puff of clarity in your insane little fantasy.

The psycho babble of denial, well what do you know?

Just thought I'd chat to you in your favourite box. Where will you stand if Livingstone's river has no source?

In a twisted mind, sure!

Nice of you to admit it.

It's you that is up about something. Here let me clue you in, it's only a button, if and only if, it's so called wearer, reacts like it is.

Let me clue you in, its not my name.

I have no Mother issue! State your case or stop blathering.

Why the shouting? Here let me clue you in, it's only a button, if and only if, it's so called wearer, reacts like it is.

But nah! I think if you ever return to finish your therapy I'll leave it to the shrink to discover this.

I'm not a man, and shall never be a man, I've always considered myself a male.

Can't argue with that as gender roles suck. Makes me wonder why you wish to assign them to women?

As usual the ship has sailed without you. As it's you that is the misogynist, denying them their due. Yet you are named Kimberly. Are you a bit confused?

Since thats not my name I find myself very unconfused. That your definition of women is as breeder I know who is the sexist here. Ask any mother that if it were possible to create their baby with all the benefits of the womb without the birth would they do so and you'll get a 'Fuckin' A I would!', although some would say 'Nah! I like the pregnant bit but can we make it so the birth is skipped' but thats women for you.

So the button is real, OK "boob," if it makes you feel better! The more you react, your admission.

This button is a figment of your psycho-babble fantasy. I wasn't calling you a tit, but upon reflection you certainly are turning out to be one, but was using my pet-name for Bob, as I've had pretty much the same conversation with him, its why I think this casual sexism is probably a culture-box thing. Maybe you should ask him what my name is as he knows.

is nothing to be ashamed of Kimberly, women are the life's blood of the human populace.

Nope, men and women are the source of the human populace. This faux idolisation of woman lends more weight to a your mother issue. If you get the chance in future bring it up with your therapist.

Of course you're all wrong as usual. I have no buttons, that you're aware of.

Your never-ending tit for tat of deceit, is definitely trying, to those that see your ploys for what they are. I don't know what's more pathetic, one that believes it's warranted, or one that's capable of brewing it up. Which really doesn't matter much, as in both cases it's you. Has anyone ever told you that you were boring? Using that same old tired "femaleish" tit for tat program?

What's your name Kimberly, since you deny it being Kimberly? Does your name bother you, are you ashamed? You know I know your name, was it a slip, that you've regretted ever since? Why regret, something you had no control over. I may not like something my parents gave me, but it's surely not my fault, it bears no reflection on me.

Quit picking on people, are you a punk?

How's your NLP pseudoscience holding up? (speaking of psycho-babble, at least you're well versed in one particular twisted version.)

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I agree, from my perspective women have a much tougher road to hoe, in general, through this lifetime. No question.


...and as far as me putting my foot into it on the other issue...I may have misunderstood EVERYTHING as far as the Kimberly tag happened. If, in fact, Kimberly IS the legal first name of one of our male members - I profusely apologize.

I apologize if I in any way I made you feel uncomfortable with your god-given name. THAT IS THE OPPOSITE of what I stand for and what I have been preaching here.

I apologize.

And I apologize to everyone here, all active members - if that is what I inadvertently expressed.




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[Arising_uk]

Of course you're all wrong as usual. I have no buttons, that you're aware of.

D'you what, I don't really care. My responses to you are in response to your incessant need to defend those who can defend themselves. That you thought you'd try and play psycho-babble mind games is your problem not mine, as is that you thought a persons sexuality would be the ploy.

Your never-ending tit for tat of deceit, is definitely trying, to those that see your ploys for what they are. ...

I've told you before you create what you want to see.

I don't know what's more pathetic, one that believes it's warranted, or one that's capable of brewing it up. Which really doesn't matter much, as in both cases it's you. Has anyone ever told you that you were boring? Using that same old tired "femaleish" tit for tat program?

There's that sexism again, you really need to address that. Your feelings about me are immaterial to me, I'd be much more interested if you stuck to critique rather than this ridiculous approach you take which is all based upon your experience of not completing your therapy.

What's your name Kimberly, since you deny it being Kimberly? Does your name bother you, are you ashamed? You know I know your name, was it a slip, that you've regretted ever since?

See the contradiction in your words? If you know my name tell me it, I can tell you its not Kimberly if that helps. Where are these posts you talked about, why don't you just post them up? Otherwise save all the psycho-babble for those weak enough to be affected by such trivia. Better still ask Bob, as like you he went down this sexist approach when he couldn't hold up his end of a conversation.

Why regret, something you had no control over. I may not like something my parents gave me, but it's surely not my fault, it bears no reflection on me.

More psycho-waffle from you. Although the Fraudians would look upon this with great insight.

Personally, if I didn't like my name I'd just change it and I'd change anything my parents gave me that I didn't like rather than retain it and claim it not my fault or a reflection of me, as who else could it be?

Quit picking on people, are you a punk?

I don't 'pick-on' people, I pick on their ideas and if it turns out that they wish to play other games I'm happy to do that as well. Take your issues elsewhere as this is a philosophy forum not a psychology nor a dippy-hipy self-help group.

How's your NLP pseudoscience holding up? (speaking of psycho-babble, at least you're well versed in one particular twisted version.)

When I wish to use it its doing just dandy thanks. Once again you talk about something you know nothing about. Shame really as it'd do you and your issues some good.

[Arising_uk]

Once again nothing about the substantive question that you've disproved your point but more nasty and snide mind games from the Gnu who clothes himself with geniality.

.I agree, from my perspective women have a much tougher road to hoe, in general, through this lifetime. No question.

And you don't help with your piccy's that reduce them to just objects of sexual fantasy.

...and as far as me putting my foot into it on the other issue...I may have misunderstood EVERYTHING as far as the Kimberly tag happened. If, in fact, Kimberly IS the legal first name of one of our male members - I profusely apologize.

Why would you apologise if it is? Try apologising as its not.

I apologize if I in any way I made you feel uncomfortable with your god-given name. THAT IS THE OPPOSITE of what I stand for and what I have been preaching here.

I'm very comfortable with my name, its just not Kimberly.

On this matter, why is it that with those you agree with you never raise the issue of them using a nik?

I apologize.

And I apologize to everyone here, all active members - if that is what I inadvertently expressed.

Save the platitudes.

[SpheresOfBalance]

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I agree, from my perspective women have a much tougher road to hoe, in general, through this lifetime. No question.
I think so bill, of course, from a physical and emotional standpoint, which is in fact the point. Those that would argue do so from some ridiculous ideological vision, that's only good on paper. Sure it makes one feel all warm and fuzzy inside, and it would be great, in a perfect world, where humans bred asexually, but that's just not the case.

I'm a guy. What do the guys out there do, any time if they want to? Pretty much whatever they please, I mean you get sick, you eat tons of food, workout, and you're back to health in no time. Need to tone up the six-pack, not a problem! Some crunchs, sit ups, etc, instant muscle, nothing's taking you down. Thanks testosterone! As opposed to 10 months, the more accurate human gestation period, of a body trying to do all that while being tapped of all nutrients, minerals, and vitamins from the inside out, then naturally speaking, possibly surviving the birth, but there's no guarantees. How about those 28 day cycles of potential emotional, chemical responses, as estrogen ebbs and flows? Just as responsible for the human populous? I think not!

So I guess those that disagree, must have mother issues! I mean there is nothing wrong with giving credit where credit is due. For recognizing the truth that is built into the human race, whether anyone likes it or not. And no amount of paper shall change anything.

And the guys that don't see it that way are taking advantage.



So only a girl would argue against the fact! As she grabs for a bowl of Wheaties!





...and as far as me putting my foot into it on the other issue...I may have misunderstood EVERYTHING as far as the Kimberly tag happened. If, in fact, Kimberly IS the legal first name of one of our male members - I profusely apologize.

I apologize if I in any way I made you feel uncomfortable with your god-given name. THAT IS THE OPPOSITE of what I stand for and what I have been preaching here.

I apologize.

And I apologize to everyone here, all active members - if that is what I inadvertently expressed.




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[SpheresOfBalance]

Of course you're all wrong as usual. I have no buttons, that you're aware of.

D'you what, I don't really care. My responses to you are in response to your incessant need to defend those who can defend themselves. That you thought you'd try and play psycho-babble mind games is your problem not mine, as is that you thought a persons sexuality would be the ploy.

Your never-ending tit for tat of deceit, is definitely trying, to those that see your ploys for what they are. ...

I've told you before you create what you want to see.
No that's your shtick!

I don't know what's more pathetic, one that believes it's warranted, or one that's capable of brewing it up. Which really doesn't matter much, as in both cases it's you. Has anyone ever told you that you were boring? Using that same old tired "femaleish" tit for tat program?

There's that sexism again, you really need to address that. Your feelings about me are immaterial to me, I'd be much more interested if you stuck to critique rather than this ridiculous approach you take which is all based upon your experience of not completing your therapy.
Prey tell, enlighten me...

What's your name Kimberly, since you deny it being Kimberly? Does your name bother you, are you ashamed? You know I know your name, was it a slip, that you've regretted ever since?

See the contradiction in your words? If you know my name tell me it, I can tell you its not Kimberly if that helps.
I got you now, thanks for this refusal, it says so much.
Come now, you haven't forgotten.
Look I'm going to leave you alone. For some reason you try and hide in a cloud of chaff. I'm going to believe, that it's harmless, your denial. Have fun picking on people! Maybe you somehow need it! Especially if they seem to hold their own, at least in temperament.

Where are these posts you talked about, why don't you just post them up? Otherwise save all the psycho-babble for those weak enough to be affected by such trivia. Better still ask Bob, as like you he went down this sexist approach when he couldn't hold up his end of a conversation.

Why regret, something you had no control over. I may not like something my parents gave me, but it's surely not my fault, it bears no reflection on me.

More psycho-waffle from you. Although the Fraudians would look upon this with great insight.
Prey Tell, enlighten me...

Personally, if I didn't like my name I'd just change it and I'd change anything my parents gave me that I didn't like rather than retain it and claim it not my fault or a reflection of me, as who else could it be?
Your response is ridiculous, you knew what I meant. But that's usually how you deal, the method of your ploy.

Quit picking on people, are you a punk?

I don't 'pick-on' people, I pick on their ideas and if it turns out that they wish to play other games I'm happy to do that as well. Take your issues elsewhere as this is a philosophy forum not a psychology nor a dippy-hipy self-help group.
Sometimes, the demeaning in your mind, the elevation in mine!

How's your NLP pseudoscience holding up? (speaking of psycho-babble, at least you're well versed in one particular twisted version.)

When I wish to use it its doing just dandy thanks. Once again you talk about something you know nothing about. Shame really as it'd do you and your issues some good.

You're such a girl, you know that? The denial part just kills me though. Crap, maybe you don't know it. If not then I'm really sorry.

Because in truth, if I were aware of anyone's mental condition, I'd tiptoe around it, far be it from me to want to crush someones world. My wife has worked as a care provider for the MRDD elderly. My very first statement to her was, "I hope they're not aware they're different."

Go ahead arising, boost your ego! Smite the wicked!

[Arising_uk]

No that's your shtick!

Nope. Mine is to engage in philosophical critique and point out logical contradictions in others thoughts, it's why I'm on a philosophy forum, why are you here? Oh! And to have fun with those who like to play psycho-babble minds games in the belief that they have some insight into others based upon their own therapy. Ooo! And to tease the metaphysicians who haven't heard the word. Oh! Yeah! And to hunt Gnu's of all forms.

Prey tell, enlighten me...

Nah! I'll leave that to you and your shrink, when you decide to revisit her that is.

I got you now, thanks for this refusal, it says so much.

Only to the therapized.

What refusal? You claimed you had evidence for my name and you made a flat blank contradiction which I pointed out. Maybe you're hard of thought so I'll show it to you again,
"What's your name Kimberly, since you deny it being Kimberly? ... You know I know your name, ...". So prove you know my name by producing this 'evidence' of yours or tell me my actual name. You see I know why you think it is Kimberly and you are wrong. I told you, ask Bob to remind you but I'll give you another clue, it's Mr Boley to you.

Come now, you haven't forgotten.

Why would I? But you obviously have. Try looking at this 'evidence' of yours once again as your blinkers are hindering you.

Look I'm going to leave you alone. ...

You appear to be under the misapprehension that you are bothering me? Personally I find what you are attempting hysterical and am enjoying immensely your exposure.

For some reason you try and hide in a cloud of chaff. I'm going to believe, that it's harmless, your denial. ...

I give two tosses about what you believe as, one, what you believe is wrong and, two, its the product of a psycho-babbling fantasist and a sexist one to boot as you so much wish what you believe about me to be true as you cannot cope with a male who does not fit your cultural-box.

Have fun picking on people! Maybe you somehow need it! Especially if they seem to hold their own, at least in temperament.

If they hold their own then there is no problem is there? Once more, I 'pick' on people when, upon a philosophy site, they insist on not engaging in philosophical critique of their thoughts and especially when they blithely continue asserting their thought when a contradiction is pointed out, as in that case it is clear they are not here to philosophise.

Prey Tell, enlighten me...

Told you, not here for Psychology or Psychoanalysis but Philosophy.

Your response is ridiculous, you knew what I meant. But that's usually how you deal, the method of your ploy.

What you meant was to play psycho-babble mind games with me and, like Bill, it shows your nasty side. What I did was to take your words at face value and respond to them with what I think would be mine and an appropriate response to the issues you raised.

Sometimes, the demeaning in your mind, the elevation in mine!

And at others just psycho-babble waffle.

You're such a girl, you know that?

See the wink, just a river in africa on your part.

denial part just kills me though. Crap, maybe you don't know it. If not then I'm really sorry.

Save your pity for those who give a toss, as you live in a psycho-babble fantasy of your own making.

Because in truth, if I were aware of anyone's mental condition, I'd tiptoe around it, far be it from me to want to crush someones world. My wife has worked as a care provider for the MRDD elderly. My very first statement to her was, "I hope they're not aware they're different."

Then I'll add patronising twat to the list as in the main of course they are aware of their differences.

Go ahead arising, boost your ego! Smite the wicked!

Nah! That's your bag. Me, I just smite those who wish to play games upon this philosophy forum as I like Philosophy.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Look, I guess things got a bit out of hand here in this thread.


I sincerely hope that no one's REAL feelings were hurt during our exchanges.


Perhaps our interchanges only serve to reflect the deep philosophical truth that I have title in this thread.

Yes - we expressed the dance, life's inseparable dance of interwoven forces.


We are the dance and yet we are the dancers; The ghosts that are unable to understand each other, then quietly disappear.



Good day to all. Let us shake hands, dust ourselves off, and continue on as friends. That is my sincerest wish.


Life is short. Join me now. The best philosophical forum on the planet, The PhilosophyNow Forum, deserves better...


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[SpheresOfBalance]

some asinine crap, that fizzled into verbal diarrhea.

It would seem you have a hole in your head and your brains have leaked out.
But you have an imagination, I'll give you that much, and quite the talker of course, It's just that it's all hot air!

Right, Kim?

Is that a product of your NLP Pseudoscience?
Read any children's books lately, you know with pretty color pictures on the cover, like maybe a top hat, bunny and a magic wand?

Is my meaning to be found only in your response, or so the megalomaniac professes.
So Talosians do exit, to hear them tell it that is.

[Arising_uk]

It would seem you have a hole in your head and your brains have leaked out.
But you have an imagination, I'll give you that much, and quite the talker of course, It's just that it's all hot air!

How would you know?

Right, Kim?

Got your memory back have you. Would have been much easier if you were interested in my name if you'd just asked but then than wasn't the point of your psycho-babble mind game was it.

Is that a product of your NLP Pseudoscience?

Is what a product of NLP?

Told you before, NLP has never claimed to be a science, how could it as it came from the experience of a mathematician and a linguist re-training as psychoanalysts, so the implied slur is pointless.

Read any children's books lately, you know with pretty color pictures on the cover, like maybe a top hat, bunny and a magic wand?

Once again you talk much about what you don't know, so much for the 'I know nothing' brigade or is this your point? I know nothing and so can talk bollocks about anything. Is that how you got your nik 'spheres of bollocks'.

Is my meaning to be found only in your response, or so the megalomaniac professes.

No, my response is your gauge as to whether I've understood your meaning, that's if you are interested in actually communicating your meaning.

So Talosians do exit, to hear them tell it that is.

The only reason you think NLP is illusion is that you wish to keep yours.