The Unconvertibility of Islam

[thedoc]

Not that any of it matters, because Christians become Muslim more readily than Muslims become Christian, which is the only thing RELEVANT to the thread.
Most "Christians" are only vaguely connected with observing religion; being statistically christian by default; never going to church except weddings and funerals, and never praying.

Those with the potential for delusion find Islam attractive because it provides a sense of purpose, brotherhood, community - all limited in Christianity. Islam is the more perfect, traditional religion, preserving many practices that most christians have left behind.
The fact that Islam provides the romantic servile practice whereupon a person can completely abase themselves to the aim of giving their empty lives a purpose.

Again, incorrect. (Muslims are just as culturally Muslim as Christians are culturally Christian). Just out of curiosity, where are you getting these ideas from? Certainly (hopefully) not from any scholar of religion.

Reli, first welcome to the forum, in case I've missed you on the introduction thread.

The other bit of advice is "don't feed the Troll." Remember some people join a forum just to pick a fight and they don't care what they fight about or who they fight with. Just sayin'.

[ReliStuPhD]

Reli, first welcome to the forum, in case I've missed you on the introduction thread.

The other bit of advice is "don't feed the Troll." Remember some people join a forum just to pick a fight and they don't care what they fight about or who they fight with. Just sayin'.

Thanks for the welcome.

And yes, I try not to feed trolls, but at the moment, I'm trying to figure out who they are. I've already figured one out. We'll see if Lev is another, or just misinformed and willing to hash it out.

[thedoc]

Reli, first welcome to the forum, in case I've missed you on the introduction thread.

The other bit of advice is "don't feed the Troll." Remember some people join a forum just to pick a fight and they don't care what they fight about or who they fight with. Just sayin'.

Thanks for the welcome.

And yes, I try not to feed trolls, but at the moment, I'm trying to figure out who they are. I've already figured one out. We'll see if Lev is another, or just misinformed and willing to hash it out.

Well, I haven't found him willing to listen to anything but his own pronouncements, But you decide for yourself, and if it come to it there is a nice ignore function in the user control panel, it's friends and foes. But you need to log on for it to be in effect, sometimes I forget, and then I see some unnecessary posts.

[ReliStuPhD]

Well, I haven't found him willing to listen to anything but his own pronouncements, But you decide for yourself, and if it come to it there is a nice ignore function in the user control panel, it's friends and foes. But you need to log on for it to be in effect, sometimes I forget, and then I see some unnecessary posts.

Thanks for the tip. I'll keep it in mind.

[Lev Muishkin]

Next Tuesday I will attend the monthly meeting of the American Chesterton Society at the University Club. The reading to be discussed is THE GREAT HERESIES by Hilaire Belloc.

What I found interesting was Belloc’s contention that a permanent power of Islam is its unconvertibility. The missionary efforts over 400 years of the Catholic orders wholly failed to convert the Mohammedans.

Islam considers itself the most evolved of the 3 Abrahamic religions; being formed of the most recent "coming" of the Messiah.
Like a Christian converting down to Judaism, a Muslim would see converting to Christianity as a downwards step.
This status of Islam is part and parcel of its ideology, and has Christianity accepts Moses; Islam accepts Moses AND Jesus as prophets.

So to convert to Christianity you would have to denounce Mohammed. Going from Christianity to Islam no denial of Jesus is necessary.


I think this is the sort of Idea you'd need to pursue to answer your question.