beauty as living a life of nonviolence

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I think the stats are pretty much consistent, and they support me, whether applied to America or to the rest of the world.

Violence is woven within us.

Violence is part of us.

We can't help it.

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[Arising_uk]

.I think the stats are pretty much consistent, and they support me, whether applied to America or to the rest of the world.

Show me how?

Violence is woven within us.

Well, 0.2 and 0.6 percent of us.

Violence is part of us.

The 'us' being the .2 or .6 percent of us.

We can't help it.

The 'we' being this .2 or .6 percent of us.

~ Bill ~

Get a tee-shirt saying, " I'm with the .2 or .6%".

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Yeah, I agree with you. I see your point and, I believe, your perspective is consistent with my statements.


What I was stating, in a philosophical way, is that violence is part of us. Violence is woven within us. And that this violence at times is most dramatically expressed, in the form of suicide or even possible homicide.


I think we can gleam that this violence, perhaps the most extreme of violence is most often self-inflicted and at other times expressed outwardly to other outer destruction.


Thank you for participating within this thread that I share with you.

Um, perhaps leave these philosophical things alone for a while. I perceive your emotions have gotten the better of you.

All the best.




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[Blaggard]

I will kill you BW.

But all joking aside it's only ethics that keep anyone from becoming the animal they are, and nothing like it is ever morally valuable to the average human.

All the best is true up to a point, all the worst is more realistic tbh. I think if you want to stay sane, you have to understand that humanity in all its forms is not, and may never be sane.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I don't know...sometimes I think animals are more moral than humans.

We fool ourselves with words that we want to believe.

We are actually quite violent...and absolutely unethical 99% of the time.


Selfish. Stupid. Mean.





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[Arising_uk]

You piccys are becoming repetitive.

What a gnu you are.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Your words are very cutting & mean.


Would you like to revise them to make them more palatable?





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HEY! - Look down into your soul...come-up with something more human. More compassionate. More Empathetic.


Thank you.


...and this time, you're welcome.




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[Arising_uk]

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Your words are very cutting & mean.

Which ones? The ones about you repeating your pictures or the ones about you being a gnu.

Would you like to revise them to make them more palatable?

Tell me how they'd be more palatable to you? Still, looking at your latest posts I'm beginning to review your gnu status and think you more a common or garden troll.

HEY! - Look down into your soul...come-up with something more human. More compassionate. More Empathetic.

Why? As to empathise with you would mean having to assume your thoughts and such confusion is not for me.

What's a 'soul'?

[Bill Wiltrack]

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....................Soul - There! I delivered!

Without confusion or delay - THAT is why I am your leader.







...you're welcome.




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[Arising_uk]

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....................Soul - There! I delivered!

Oh! That! Don't have one of those.

Without confusion or delay - THAT is why I am your leader.

...you're welcome..

Try answering the sentences with question marks that you can't wiki.

[Michael W Lewis]

One of the most beautiful things is to live a life of nonviolence involving unconditional acceptance, love and forgiveness of all peoples and nations. Where we nonviolently sacrifice our lives and our nation for the betterment of all humanity and all life on our planet.

And are you going to smugly sit there in your shiny little ivory tower, and forgive THIS?

If we can't as individuals and as a species unconditionally accept, love and forgive all individuals and nations for wrong doings we will not survive beyond this juncture of our warful existence!

[Michael W Lewis]

"sacrifice"

Not me, pal.

Why not nonviolently sacrifice? Based on the religious experiences or transfinity, transmigration, transfiguration, transcendence and their integration. If you would sacrifice your life for your children and loved ones. Why not everyone?

[Michael W Lewis]

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From Wiki: Globally, violence takes the lives of more than 1.6 million people annually. Just over 50% due to suicide, some 35% due to homicide, and just over 12% as a direct result of war or some other form of conflict.



...perhaps our lives are nothing more than an overt tragedy. Violence is a part of us. Violence is woven within us.




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Nonviolence is also part of us. Examples: the Buddha, Gandhi and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Nonviolence is woven within us as we evolve nonviolently into the Homo sapien sapien species in order to survive and find meaning on all levels of human interaction: the individual, family, community, state, national, planetary, interplanetary and cosmic. Where we will use the full capacity of our minds and brains and thereby survive short and long term unto the exodus from our solar system and the replication of the cosmos and the manifestation of the religious experiences of all life forms based on our love of our lives, all species, and our cosmos.

[Blaggard]

I can't help wanking either, but I do hope I don't do it too much. Violence is necessary to make an intelligent, capable of standing on its own two feet evolutionary success. In the natural order those who fight tend to win at least in predators. When we have surpassed the need for it though we aught to realise it, because war gains few people anything any more. In the old days of course you needed war in the field to test your new mighty weapons on the others, and make money from grinding them into dust, now you have a lab the power of the atom, and few practical experiments that need it outside of physics or ballistics and dumbness. We don't make money or any sort of practical thing out of war any more, it tends to bite us in the ass, we should learn this. Humans are idiots, they will never learn, rise above I think. It's all just a little bit of history repeating.

Make love not war, and if you can't do that wank? It couldn't hurt, after all it's never been tried.

[henry quirk]

"Why not nonviolently sacrifice? Based on the religious experiences or transfinity, transmigration, transfiguration, transcendence and their integration."

I'm 52 and have never had a 'religious experience'. I'm inclined -- as an indifferent atheist -- to take 'transfinity, transmigration, transfiguration, and transcendence' as hooey, fictions.

I'm not inclined to lay myself on the altar for fictions.

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"If you would sacrifice your life for your children and loved ones. Why not everyone?"

I love my kid, my friends. I do not love everyone. Those folks I'm invested in (a very small group) get all of me while the rest get nuthin'.

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"If we can't as individuals and as a species unconditionally accept, love and forgive all individuals and nations for wrong doings we will not survive beyond this juncture of our warful existence!"

I cannot and will not 'unconditionally' do any such friggin' thing.

Mike, I'm sure your heart is in the right place, that you have the best of intentions, but I wholly reject the notions you promote as wrong-headed and far more liable to make matters worse, not better.

Life (living) is messy, organic, and violent; utopia is a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow; Glenda is dead, Dorothy is in jail, the Wizard is a heroin addict, and the Wicked Witch has never been better.

The World 'is' what it 'is'.

Learn to navigate it, forget about changing it.