The Right To Be Offended

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mtmynd1 wrote:Seems to be a subject that won't go away. Doesn't the name "Washington Redskins" (and their logo) bring to mind an image of a band of Indians who must not be very welcomed, deserving to be called 'redskins', complete with feathers and really red skin, conjure an uprising? Maybe not to everyone, obviously, but to be viewed by anyone with an imagination as a sports team who has a threatening name of our native Americans (or as the Canadians say Original People) does not bode well for a professional sports team who doesn't even have one American Native on it's team.
You claim that the issue isn't going away, not because insidious people with their own vile motives have made it fashionable, but because the name speaks for itself. Firstly, the name been around for a while, any independent minded could have quietly wrote a letter to the organization telling them they'll no longer support the team, including buying tickets and merchandise. Then the management would slowly see the effect on their profits, and know the reason why without any doubts about their motives. Secondly, you expose yourself inability to think for yourself in that while admitting it's not just about the unfactual reference to skin color, but about the stereotypical portrayal in general, you don't mention teams such as the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs, and MLB's Cleveland Indians (who're widely called "The Tribe", even by televised sports commentators).

You're simply fashion minded, and lack the ability to form an independent thought.
I've included an interesting article written by a native American that I found to be logical. Rather than provide 'copy & paste' paragraphs, here is the full article for those who may be curious as to the current pulse (8.22.14) -

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.c ... kins-bogus
Is it only interesting because he's an Indian?
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The victim/Indian mentions the Vikings, Saints and Cowboys, as part of his argument, but not the Chiefs and Indians. So any defense he could make related to "staying on topic", is out the window, he's not just a pathetic victim, but a prostitute.
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Oklahoma

The state's name is derived from the Choctaw words okla and humma, meaning "red people".

when will they demand that the STATE change its name?!?

double plus good.

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And what about the names they give to their own casinos (not to mention the more important, but off topic, question of why Indian's are amassing personal fortunes in the billions due to special gaming privileges given to their tribe, in general, as 'reparations')?

The liberal way is to find a so-called problem, pretend its the most pressing issue facing people today, and then once 'solved', to pretend like anyone who still disagrees is satanic. (Basically, you're satan himself if you currently have any doubts about any newly established changes in political correctness, even if you had agreed lockstep most of your life, but if you agree completely now, even if you were its most vile opponent up until a minute ago, then these so-called atheists will have no problem with you.)
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Stuartp523 wrote:And what about the names they give to their own casinos (not to mention the more important, but off topic, question of why Indian's are amassing personal fortunes in the billions due to special gaming privileges given to their tribe, in general, as 'reparations')?

The liberal way is to find a so-called problem, pretend its the most pressing issue facing people today, and then once 'solved', to pretend like anyone who still disagrees is satanic. (Basically, you're satan himself if you currently have any doubts about any newly established changes in political correctness, even if you had agreed lockstep most of your life, but if you agree completely now, even if you were its most vile opponent up until a minute ago, then these so-called atheists will have no problem with you.)
http://www.narf.org/pubs/misc/gaming.html

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.c ... ino-riches

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95944

most Indians don't see a dime from casinos...

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Impenitent wrote:most Indians don't see a dime from casinos...
Maybe if the Redskins were to change their name then the few billionaire Indians could swindle their own kin with peace of mind at gaming sites such as Running Injun Casino, Sitting Squaw Resort, or even Trail of Tears Card Room.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:What if there was a football team called 'the niggers'?? You yanks are such racist fucks.
If negros got special gaming rights, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd name one of their casinos N-igger Creek or Spook Mountain. After all when white people make money off of an 'offensive' name it's sadism, when an officially recognized victim group does so it's just good business.
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Just a reminder - the Washington Redskins is a professional sports team that brings in multi-millions of dollars a year. The team members are individually called "Redskins" although there is no American Indian on the team. But yet through the insistence of 'tradition', based upon the 20th C value system, the owners steadfastly refuse to change the name which clearly offends a large percentage of the Indian Nation. Is there a problem with this?
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mtmynd1 wrote:Just a reminder - the Washington Redskins bring in multi-millions of dollars a year.

What else do you need to say?
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thedoc wrote:
mtmynd1 wrote:Just a reminder - the Washington Redskins bring in multi-millions of dollars a year.

What else do you need to say?
Indeed! Money speaks louder than sense.
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As native Americans have negligible money or power, and are for all intents and purposes invisible and a joke to most Americans, then of course no one will take any notice of them.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: a joke to most Americans
Really! methinks you are wrong about that. It might be the way you see them, but most Americans...? wrong.
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I've been meaning to say; the right will be offended, pretty much whatever you do. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
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uwot wrote:I've been meaning to say; the right will be offended, pretty much whatever you do. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
Thx, uwot... offensiveness does not bother me personally, only pathetic to see someone resort to that. :)
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:As native Americans have negligible money or power, and are for all intents and purposes invisible, and a joke to most Americans, then of course no one will take any notice of them.
I appreciate most of the Indian cultures that I'm aware of, and have no doubt that there are many proud Indians who would be hesitant to resort to victim psychology. And that isn't to say I find all Indians to be of low character who're involved with casinos exclusively profiting Indians; doubtlessly for many their involvement is simply opportunism, rather than the ridiculous idea that they deserve special privileges.
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