What form of discipline should be used at home?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

"Obviously I disagree. For the 20 lb. weaklings to say such things, I understand, as their fear is the deepest, surrounded by a wall of giant humans, but for the burly family, of bear like humans, it's nothing more than play, albeit, slightly stronger, so as to make a point, WHEN IT'S WARRANTED; NOT A MEANS TO HARM, ONLY EVER TO ACCENTUATE. The spectrum of dichotomy is only as wide as one makes it! Narrow it and one looses perspective! Simply becoming, prey!"

Far too many commas, in all the wrong places. 'bear like humans': I think you meant 'bear-like' humans, but perhaps you meant 'bears like humans'? I don't think they do. 'looses':I'm sure you meant loses, but I can't be sure. Lots of fragmentation. Inappropriate use of the exclamation mark......

I'm a big one for using commas to help break up bigger sentences into smaller parts making them easier to read and to point out certain thoughts to give them emphasis plus they're useful to help clarify; but here you're using comma when you should be using apostrophe to describe the mark.

PhilX

I was talking about commas. Are you blind? Of course they are useful when used correctly!

[Philosophy Explorer]

"Obviously I disagree. For the 20 lb. weaklings to say such things, I understand, as their fear is the deepest, surrounded by a wall of giant humans, but for the burly family, of bear like humans, it's nothing more than play, albeit, slightly stronger, so as to make a point, WHEN IT'S WARRANTED; NOT A MEANS TO HARM, ONLY EVER TO ACCENTUATE. The spectrum of dichotomy is only as wide as one makes it! Narrow it and one looses perspective! Simply becoming, prey!"

Far too many commas, in all the wrong places. 'bear like humans': I think you meant 'bear-like' humans, but perhaps you meant 'bears like humans'? I don't think they do. 'looses':I'm sure you meant loses, but I can't be sure. Lots of fragmentation. Inappropriate use of the exclamation mark......

I'm a big one for using commas to help break up bigger sentences into smaller parts making them easier to read and to point out certain thoughts to give them emphasis plus they're useful to help clarify; but here you're using comma when you should be using apostrophe to describe the mark.

PhilX

I was talking about commas. Are you blind? Of course they are useful when used correctly!

In your second paragraph, you said "'bear like humans.'" Those apostrophes ARE NOT commas. Are you blind? Is British so different from American?

PhilX

[vegetariantaxidermy]

PhilX[/quote]
Idiot. The commas remark was self-contained. The 'bear like...' one was a quote! Commas weren't the only thing wrong with the piece. The 'bear like..' bit was pointing out that it needed a hyphen. Are you really that stupid?

[Philosophy Explorer]

You can't be that stupid. Look at what you said to lead off your 2nd paragraph:

"Far too many commas, in all the wrong places. 'bear like humans'"

All within the same paragraph with no break between the sentences. One has to assume you meant the apostrophes to be commas. So please don't play stupid. You know better than that. For clarity you could have written the following:

Far too many commas, in all the wrong places. Also with 'bear like humans'...

See how things are cleared up which expresses what you want to say. Do you see what I mean now?

PhilX

[vegetariantaxidermy]

You can't be that stupid. Look at what you said to lead off your 2nd paragraph:

"Far too many commas, in all the wrong places. 'bear like humans'"

All within the same paragraph with no break between the sentences. One has to assume you meant the apostrophes to be commas. So please don't play stupid. You know better than that. For clarity you could have written the following:

Far too many commas, in all the wrong places. Also with 'bear like humans'...

See how things are cleared up which expresses what you want to say. Do you see what I mean now?

PhilX

You're a fuckwit. You are comparing apples and oranges. Mine is basically just a list of what was wrong, as he asked me to do. Smart-arse.

[Philosophy Explorer]

You can't be that stupid. Look at what you said to lead off your 2nd paragraph:

"Far too many commas, in all the wrong places. 'bear like humans'"

All within the same paragraph with no break between the sentences. One has to assume you meant the apostrophes to be commas. So please don't play stupid. You know better than that. For clarity you could have written the following:

Far too many commas, in all the wrong places. Also with 'bear like humans'...

See how things are cleared up which expresses what you want to say. Do you see what I mean now?

PhilX

You're a fuckwit. You are comparing apples and oranges. Mine is basically just a list of what was wrong, as he asked me to do. Smart-arse.

Look in the mirror when you start your name calling. I thought you had more intelligence, but now you're a disappointment.

PhilX

[vegetariantaxidermy]

You can't be that stupid. Look at what you said to lead off your 2nd paragraph:

"Far too many commas, in all the wrong places. 'bear like humans'"

All within the same paragraph with no break between the sentences. One has to assume you meant the apostrophes to be commas. So please don't play stupid. You know better than that. For clarity you could have written the following:

Far too many commas, in all the wrong places. Also with 'bear like humans'...

See how things are cleared up which expresses what you want to say. Do you see what I mean now?

PhilX

You're a fuckwit. You are comparing apples and oranges. Mine is basically just a list of what was wrong, as he asked me to do. Smart-arse.

Look in the mirror when you start your name calling. I thought you had more intelligence, but now you're a disappointment.

PhilX

Well I never thought you were intelligent at all. I told him why his comment made no sense, which is what he asked me to do. A list doesn't have to be in grammatically perfect sentences. If you think eleven commas in one sentence between every two, or even one, words is a good idea then good for you. Commas are there to make sentences MORE clear, not LESS!

[Philosophy Explorer]

Veg said:

"Well I never thought you were intelligent at all. I told him why his comment made no sense, which is what he asked me to do. A list doesn't have to be in grammatically perfect sentences. If you think eleven commas in one sentence between every two, or even one, words is a good idea then good for you. Commas are there to make sentences MORE clear, not LESS!"

As I indicated before, commas are also used to break up sentences into simpler phrases which are easier to read and there are even more uses for them (large numbers for example plus scientific notation before someone else feels the need to mention it). And I've also said that commas can improve sentence clarity.

PhilX

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Veg said:

"Well I never thought you were intelligent at all. I told him why his comment made no sense, which is what he asked me to do. A list doesn't have to be in grammatically perfect sentences. If you think eleven commas in one sentence between every two, or even one, words is a good idea then good for you. Commas are there to make sentences MORE clear, not LESS!"

As I indicated before, commas are also used to break up sentences into simpler phrases which are easier to read and there are even more uses for them (large numbers for example plus scientific notation before someone else feels the need to mention it). And I've also said that commas can improve sentence clarity.

PhilX

Then prove that he did that.

[SpheresOfBalance]

It's not 'hate-mongering'. It's all true.
We might all be speaking Klingon by now, if you hadn't got pissed off about your widdle warships in Pearl Harbour. Who knows? The Universe is a strange place.

They weren't mine, I tell you, they weren't mine!!!!!

I'm one of those very rare, "Good Americans."

Come on Veggie, I know you can say those two words adjacent to one another, just as I've written them above. Ready, "SOB is a very rare good American," well at least to some degree!

I used to think that, but after your 'would be speaking German' comment I see you are just the same as any other. It's that 'mind-set' thing again.

No, rather my like minded rebuttal in a forum, when one only sees Americas help one way. In fact nothing is black and white, especially as it spans time. You had said:

Yes, I've seen the kind of 'help' your paranoid shit-hole gives. No thank you.

Which left me no choice but to remind you of my meaning of 'help' and 'ally' that you failed to acknowledge.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Veg said:

"Well I never thought you were intelligent at all. I told him why his comment made no sense, which is what he asked me to do. A list doesn't have to be in grammatically perfect sentences. If you think eleven commas in one sentence between every two, or even one, words is a good idea then good for you. Commas are there to make sentences MORE clear, not LESS!"

As I indicated before, commas are also used to break up sentences into simpler phrases which are easier to read and there are even more uses for them (large numbers for example plus scientific notation before someone else feels the need to mention it). And I've also said that commas can improve sentence clarity.

PhilX

Then prove that he did that.

Your complaints were contradictory, deal with it!

[Lev Muishkin]

I think many people believe that discipline is needed to maintain a stable home environment. If so, then what form is best? Does spanking, e.g., work? I pick this form because I've personally known a couple of women that like to be spanked and I mean spanked hard. This makes me wonder what can be done to help children grow up?

What have you to say?

PhilX

Physical violence is a signal that a parent has already failed.

As for sex - that is a different story. Do those women spank back, and call you a naughty boy?

[SpheresOfBalance]

I think many people believe that discipline is needed to maintain a stable home environment. If so, then what form is best? Does spanking, e.g., work? I pick this form because I've personally known a couple of women that like to be spanked and I mean spanked hard. This makes me wonder what can be done to help children grow up?

What have you to say?

PhilX

Physical violence is a signal that a parent has already failed.
Is a parent only a parent of a blood related child known from birth? Now define 'physical violence,' as you see it? As it would seem that many people have many different ideas as to what it actually entails. I for one, have only ever spoken of 'corporal punishment,' and never 'physical violence,' seeing them as two distinctly different things, you?

As for sex - that is a different story. Do those women spank back, and call you a naughty boy?

[Philosophy Explorer]

I think many people believe that discipline is needed to maintain a stable home environment. If so, then what form is best? Does spanking, e.g., work? I pick this form because I've personally known a couple of women that like to be spanked and I mean spanked hard. This makes me wonder what can be done to help children grow up?

What have you to say?

PhilX

Physical violence is a signal that a parent has already failed.

As for sex - that is a different story. Do those women spank back, and call you a naughty boy?

That's not my bag and I'm not familiar with these women's histories. All I can say is I was surprised as I suppose many would be, but I do suspect these women had strict family histories when growing up.

PhilX

[SpheresOfBalance]

There is a big difference between discipline and sexual (or otherwise) play, when it comes to spanking.

As to discipline: It all depends upon the situation. One must always closely observe the offender, weighing their true understanding of their position of offense, then discipline as necessary, just to that point that they understand, and that the re-occurrence of the offense is unlikely. Of course it's always to be accompanied with verbal reasoning, welcoming opposing arguments, so as to counter any misconceptions.

As to play: It all depends on what the spank-e wants or desires, that determines, the extent of the spanking.