black holes rexamined

[jackles]

My point was that its not the measuring of the limit that our consciousness is stationary to. Its the knowledge of the limit that is a part of consiousness that is stationary.

[Arising_uk]

But your point was that it is consciousness that does the measuring and causes the supposed collapse of events. Whereas I think that since a machine can measure and cause the collapse consciousness is not needed to fix the limit.

[jackles]

Well nicely put arising . But the way I see it on knowing the relativity of consciousness to the limit.conscioueness joins in as a part of the collapsing thing.

[uwot]

You're not the only one rexamining black holes, jackles: http://www.wired.com/2014/10/astrophysi ... lack-hole/

[jackles]

Yes my idea here on black holes is that there centre goes out of happening existance and as such stops moving in a happening relative way.wheres all the stuff gone then.why back to certainty of course.

[Arising_uk]

Well nicely put arising . But the way I see it on knowing the relativity of consciousness to the limit.conscioueness joins in as a part of the collapsing thing.

You're still not explaining how it is that a machine manages to 'collapse' whatever it is you are talking about?

[jackles]

Is what your saying that the machine measures the speed of light which causes and action in the event.

[Arising_uk]

If I understand you then yes I'm saying that the machine measures the speed of light and based upon this the cat-feeder produces food. As such no consciousness was necessary to cause the event apart from the consciousness that built the machine but I think this differs from your claim that a consciousness needs to be present to instigate such a measurement.