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As I have delved very deep into conspiracy theories, and as well as expanding more into different realms of thinking (psychology, philosophy, spirituality, etc), I have been in the process of detecting what is true and what is false, or flawed, in the conspiratorial culture. I have also observed the nature of the conspiratorial culture, as it merges as another meme in the modern culture of cliques and ideologies. Conspiracy theories are often today associated with government plots against people and other groups, often for the collective purpose to enslave and oppress them, and as well as for manipulation. Examples of conspiracy theories include: September 11th, JFK, Freemasons, Illuminati, New World Order, and many others that have leveling degrees of controversy and infamy.

The conspiratorial culture has become an unfortunately marginalized group in modern society; labelled as 'paranoid', 'loony', and often portrayed as 'extremists' and irrational people who just believe anything that appears to be exotic. There are many reasons as to why this meme has become as it now is today: governments and the elite groups themselves, opportunists and cult-like leaders trying to get higher status at the expense of their followers, and also many regular people whom are in the culture themselves.

The government (mainly the Western governments) and elite groups, mainly through mass media and other aids and apologists, often marginalize anyone who questions official narratives (ie. 9/11) and who believe that there is a group that is conspiring to enslave other people. Often times, this array that controls society uses various fallacies (ie. straw-man arguments, ad hominems, etc) and various manipulative tactics used in propaganda, to make them look insane. The leaders within the conspiratorial culture are also to blame, with people like Alex Jones, David Icke, and other various groups such as We Are Change, Freedomain Radio, Anonymous, etc. The many more serious and scholarly people who research and bring evidence for conspiracy theories are often overlooked, in favor of those that try to simply provoke anger and try to appear 'extremist'.

Another characteristic of the conspiratorial culture is that there is indeed a dogmatic element within conspiracy theorists, to where they still often side with various groups and ideologies (example: patriots, Libertarians, Anarchists, Far-Right and even Far-Left). Instead of actually learning tools for proper critical thinking in dealing with conspiracy theories, many simply delve into them, without even examining them. They become more prone into believing things that are simply right out of the ordinary, such as the alien theory, holograph theory, reptillian theory, etc. They follow cult groups like Freedomain Radio and the Zeitgeist movement and do not critically look at what they are saying, and also are swayed into buying various products (many of them that are probably quack) from people like Alex Jones. Often times, they buy into their fear-mongering tactics that are entangled into the truth of what's going on in the world.

All of these things mentioned are the reasons why there is no real transparency within society, and why Truth appears to be elusive to many that do search for it. Specifically, it is the reason why the conspiratorial movement is an image of satire and pariah in society. My inspiration for this thought mainly comes through looking a bit into Logic, and also a bit into Psychological Manipulation and broad research. Another paper, "How to Make Sense of Conspiracy Theories" by Rob Ager, also provoked some thought into this.
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Very well summed up, there clearly are conspiracies, it seems though that those most able to look logically atm if they could, are those least able to.

As you say you must divorce yourself from the conspiracy, you must look logically at it at it's face value, the last thing you want to do is listen to conspiracy nuts. We all know the world is a shady and horrible place full of government conspiracies, and it always has been, but some of those conspiracies don't pass muster, in fact most of them. And it takes someone who is willing to be honest to look clearly at the evidence, not clearly at their own bias.

No one believes anything at face value. Why should anyone who has the faculty of reason, conspiracy advocate or not?
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Blaggard wrote:Very well summed up, there clearly are conspiracies, it seems though that those most able to look logically atm if they could, are those least able to.

As you say you must divorce yourself from the conspiracy, you must look logically at it at it's face value, the last thing you want to do is listen to conspiracy nuts. We all know the world is a shady and horrible place full of government conspiracies, and it always has been, but some of those conspiracies don't pass muster, in fact most of them. And it takes someone who is willing to be honest to look clearly at the evidence, not clearly at their own bias.

No one believes anything at face value. Why should anyone who has the faculty of reason, conspiracy advocate or not?
True indeed, Blaggard. We must also not get to boggled down into one side of conspiracy theories as well, and furthermore must critically look at all sides (even if it may be bizzare, and as well as the sceptical point of view). Reality is a lot more complicated in the phenomenalogical realm, so it's always best to keep an open mind.
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Ever heard of Larry Silverstein? theres much more though..
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Questionmark wrote:Ever heard of Larry Silverstein? theres much more though..
Just Googled him - found an article which said that he had profited off from 9/11. Some diabolicle shit going on in the world. Well aware of that event myself.
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I find the order of events very peculiar.. as for example an US journalist gets killed after the Ferguson-drama seems to escalate, followed by people focusing more on terrorism instead of turning on each other.

Those towers were worthless and renovating it would cost more than rebuilding, the way they collapsed, even people who do this for a living are amazed (second explosions, perfect on its spot, etc.) and the whole silverstein contract conveniently insuring each tower separate against also and newly added, acts of TERRORISM, for not a shy amount of cash. Problem solved :)

Btw, that word meant nihill before 9/11.. almost 15 years ago, but if that were true, a lot more probably is..

commercials, the news, speeches, all words formed by decades and decades of investing in mass psychology to give us a specific opinion.
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Questionmark wrote:I find the order of events very peculiar.. as for example an US journalist gets killed after the Ferguson-drama seems to escalate, followed by people focusing more on terrorism instead of turning on each other.

Those towers were worthless and renovating it would cost more than rebuilding, the way they collapsed, even people who do this for a living are amazed (second explosions, perfect on its spot, etc.) and the whole silverstein contract conveniently insuring each tower separate against also and newly added, acts of TERRORISM, for not a shy amount of cash. Problem solved :)

Btw, that word meant nihill before 9/11.. almost 15 years ago, but if that were true, a lot more probably is..

commercials, the news, speeches, all words formed by decades and decades of investing in mass psychology to give us a specific opinion.
Yes - the distortion of words are very often utilized, as it is part of indoctrinating people into groupthink and conformity. It's much like 'conspiracy theorist', where it's often referred only to those who believe that the government(s) are plotting against people, when in reality the term can refer to other people besides the government.
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A government is just made of people, with family friends etc. but i understand what you mean. Its not always bad intentions, rather an intention with personal positive outcome over, well, whatever seems necessary.

"Power should only be given to those who want it the least."
In most cases, those who want power probably shouldn't have it, those who enjoy it probably do so for the wrong reasons, and those who want most to hold on to it don't understand that it's only temporary.
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