Knowing you dont know.

[HexHammer]

and yet i do not feel inclined to answer or ask the same,

"This is just a parrot speech and the intend for a cozy chat"

ill give it one more try..

"Again, you didn't make a point(1), you only stated some irrelevant stuff, and how can I agree (2) to anything that doesn't have relevance(3)?"

1. what is the point i'm trying to make?
2. what is your point of view?
3. relevant to what?

Please include the answers of those questions in your next post, for my understanding and for keeping the discussion relevant,

Well spoken if I may say.

You may refer to this:

I hope you see where agnosticism differs from claiming to know the actual (non-)existence of God, only by emphasizing the difference between knowledge and belief.

According to the quote Einstein would agree to the following;
"the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of God, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown or unknowable."

They remain believable or not, but agree no one is capable of actually proving God or not.
What you consider evidence may have been altered like it may be false or correct, the problem is it seems impossible to (dis)prove any..



You agree or not?

Where exactly does the line between belief and knowledge go?
I must disagree then.

[Questionmark]

You end with a question and saying you already disagree to any answer..?
Is there a difference between knowledge and belief, IN THIS CONTEXT?

Do you know God exists, or do you believe in God?
Do you doubt God exists, or do you know there is no God?

Besides that, you keep avoiding my questions.
Please return if you are able to discuss manners properly.

[HexHammer]

You end with a question and saying you already disagree to any answer..?
Is there a difference between knowledge and belief, IN THIS CONTEXT?

Do you know God exists, or do you believe in God?
Do you doubt God exists, or do you know there is no God?

Besides that, you keep avoiding my questions.
Please return if you are able to discuss manners properly.

I asked you what the difference was, and please answer it, istead of dodgeing the answer.

I will return when you make a relevant threat instead of a something that is waste of time.

[Questionmark]

lol, a relevant threat? anyway, i explained what the difference is, and yet we all are entitled to believe what we like, good day :)

[HexHammer]

lol, a relevant threat? anyway, i explained what the difference is, and yet we all are entitled to believe what we like, good day

You are right you actually gave an explenation, I'm sorry, but it was so piss poor that I forgot about it instantly.

How does one that is utterly psychotic that his belief in god is real? We know that kuku people hear voice and see things, how does these people distinct fiction from fact?

How does those who are swayed by the demagogue's spell, make up his/her own mind?

[Wyman]

Hexhammer, I see you are making new friends.

[HexHammer]

Hexhammer, I see you are making new friends.

As always, I'm so good at it!

[uwot]

... you actually gave an explenation, I'm sorry, but it was so piss poor that I forgot about it instantly.

Mr Hammer, is that why you generally forget to give an explanation?

[Questionmark]

lol, a relevant threat? anyway, i explained what the difference is, and yet we all are entitled to believe what we like, good day

You are right you actually gave an explenation, I'm sorry, but it was so piss poor that I forgot about it instantly.

How does one that is utterly psychotic that his belief in god is real? We know that kuku people hear voice and see things, how does these people distinct fiction from fact?

How does those who are swayed by the demagogue's spell, make up his/her own mind?

I've had other discussions that turned out worse, so dont mind.
On topic, it is what is, but its either way a miracle, the doubt itself too.

Can you imagine if this belief is supported (in general), religion cant be used to declare war anymore (by those)?

[HexHammer]

I've had other discussions that turned out worse, so dont mind.
On topic, it is what is, but its either way a miracle, the doubt itself too.

Can you imagine if this belief is supported (in general), religion cant be used to declare war anymore (by those)?

You need to muster a better answer, this is piss poor.

Go study "groupthink" and "psychosis", you clearly have no idear about these concepts.

[Wyman]

lol, a relevant threat? anyway, i explained what the difference is, and yet we all are entitled to believe what we like, good day

You are right you actually gave an explenation, I'm sorry, but it was so piss poor that I forgot about it instantly.

How does one that is utterly psychotic that his belief in god is real? We know that kuku people hear voice and see things, how does these people distinct fiction from fact?

How does those who are swayed by the demagogue's spell, make up his/her own mind?

I've had other discussions that turned out worse, so dont mind.
On topic, it is what is, but its either way a miracle, the doubt itself too.

Can you imagine if this belief is supported (in general), religion cant be used to declare war anymore (by those)?

First of all, agnosticism and skepticism are beliefs that have been kicking around side by side with religious beliefs since the beginning of written history. So the idea that this is going to catch on now is silly.

Second, agnosticism in no way assures that there will be less war. The twentieth century was bloodier than all previous centuries combined and the wars had little to do with religion.

[Questionmark]

First of all, agnosticism and skepticism are beliefs that have been kicking around side by side with religious beliefs since the beginning of written history. So the idea that this is going to catch on now is silly.

Second, agnosticism in no way assures that there will be less war. The twentieth century was bloodier than all previous centuries combined and the wars had little to do with religion.

Why so skeptic? This era is the beginning of a new one never seen before, world wide communication..

Some of those wars have little to do with religion, yet still often is the case;

War on 'terror', Middle East, 2001 - 2014
Bosnian genocide, 1992 - 1995
Afghanistan, 1979 - 2000
Irish civil war, etc.

But this part is of less importance. Agnosticism is not the obvious choice nor the reassuring one, yet it is the only correct one concerning these matters.


[ "The twentieth century was bloodier than all previous centuries combined" no, i looked it up, want the numbers? but there has been too much useless bloodshed.]

[attofishpi]

We might as well speak in Spanish or Chinese since your arguments (not jut the Jesus part, but in general) are either avoiding the point and/or based on fiction.

Are you implying God spoke to you there? Most likely I'd help my friend before I was asked anything, to answer your question, but how can I be sure I'm not delusional..?

Then fucking address the points you total wimp.

Let me just clarify. You are stating that if God existed it would either not be able to make itself known to someone or it would be unwilling to?

[Questionmark]

We might as well speak in Spanish or Chinese since your arguments (not jut the Jesus part, but in general) are either avoiding the point and/or based on fiction.

Are you implying God spoke to you there? Most likely I'd help my friend before I was asked anything, to answer your question, but how can I be sure I'm not delusional..?

Then fucking address the points you total wimp.

Let me just clarify. You are stating that if God existed it would either not be able to make itself known to someone or it would be unwilling to?

People cursing in the internet, oh my now..

Anyway, not reflect your poor way of expressing yourself, I'm stating there is a possibility God does exist and some one not believing, as much as it is possible there is no God and some one believing.

It would make a difference if you used could instead would there btw. But tell me, what do you know?

[attofishpi]

We might as well speak in Spanish or Chinese since your arguments (not jut the Jesus part, but in general) are either avoiding the point and/or based on fiction.

Are you implying God spoke to you there? Most likely I'd help my friend before I was asked anything, to answer your question, but how can I be sure I'm not delusional..?

Then fucking address the points you total wimp.

Let me just clarify. You are stating that if God existed it would either not be able to make itself known to someone or it would be unwilling to?

People cursing in the internet, oh my now..

Anyway, not reflect your poor way of expressing yourself, I'm stating there is a possibility God does exist and some one not believing, as much as it is possible there is no God and some one believing.

It would make a difference if you used could instead would there btw. But tell me, what do you know?

Instead of continuing to avoid answering the prime question that can put this ridiculous thread to its bed, just answer it.

In a universe where there IS a God that exists, what makes YOU so certain that God would not reveal itself to someone?