WONDERZONE

[Pluto]

A space where time matters not.

[Ginkgo]

A space where time matters not.

I think this quote might be heading towards the famous debate between Newton and Leibniz over the absolute nature of space/time. Newton proposed that space and time is something of an objective background for events to be played out upon. Instead, Leibniz proposed that in reality space/time is a collection of discrete body particles that exists outside of space/time.

The universe for Leibniz is a collection of discrete parts that change their arrangement only amongst themselves. perceived motion is really just a changing of the internal order of relations.

Interestingly enough this aspect (monads) was discussed in the thread on consciousness.

[Pluto]

A space where time matters not.

I think this quote might be heading towards the famous debate between Newton and Leibniz over the absolute nature of space/time. Newton proposed that space and time is something of an objective background for events to be played out upon. Instead, Leibniz proposed that in reality space/time is a collection of discrete body particles that exists outside of space/time.

The universe for Leibniz is a collection of discrete parts that change their arrangement only amongst themselves. perceived motion is really just a changing of the internal order of relations.

Interestingly enough this aspect (monads) was discussed in the thread on consciousness.

Is it interesting what you say, I'm not sure. These people are very old, of course age is not a problem, but what are we in the 21st knowing what has gone before, still talking about the guys from way back, is there not more recent on the same? I mean, a place where time is irrelevant, like our time has pressures of being, but wonderzone is free of all that

[Ginkgo]

A space where time matters not.

I think this quote might be heading towards the famous debate between Newton and Leibniz over the absolute nature of space/time. Newton proposed that space and time is something of an objective background for events to be played out upon. Instead, Leibniz proposed that in reality space/time is a collection of discrete body particles that exists outside of space/time.

The universe for Leibniz is a collection of discrete parts that change their arrangement only amongst themselves. perceived motion is really just a changing of the internal order of relations.

Interestingly enough this aspect (monads) was discussed in the thread on consciousness.

Is it interesting what you say, I'm not sure. These people are very old, of course age is not a problem, but what are we in the 21st knowing what has gone before, still talking about the guys from way back, is there not more recent on the same? I mean, a place where time is irrelevant, like our time has pressures of being, but wonderzone is free of all that

Sorry my mistake.

[cavacava]

A space where time matters not.

I think the aesthetic experience suspends time. It draws on our imagination and we experience only the 'time' created within the experience. We read a novel, see a play, or movie, listen to music our senses are surprised by the work, we suspend our overt conscious awareness and experience the work according to its internal dimensions of space and time.

[Pluto]

Yes, this is good what you've written, I think it true. When you enter a church it creates a feeling within you, you are expected to behave a certain way within this constructed space, the space of church has a different effect on one from the space of macdonalds, or the space of library, etc. Through the placing and interaction of artworks within a space can I create a space which sits outside the confines of the present. A church does not sit outside the present as it is part of the fabric of the present, though admittedly it does transcend materiality in its projection of life beyond death, which is interesting. Artworks as windows or exit points onto as yet unseen ways of being and doing. Picture boards which project their image out into the space of the viewer, images to be absorbed by the viewer. The viewer absorbs the space created by the artworks so that the absorbtion itself may act as an antidote to what is already in there. A cleansing visual experience.

[Michael W Lewis]

Om.

[Pluto]

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/om
Definition of OM. : a mantra consisting of the sound \ˈōm\ and used in contemplation of ultimate reality.