Hegel: God as self-consciousness coming to know itself

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volatileworld
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Hegel: God as self-consciousness coming to know itself

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What do you think about Hegel's conception of God? I think he was a pan-en-theist.
What if what exists is Universal Consciousness - the Absolute himself. God thinks itself and generates the Universe as his sensorium, that is, He supplies matter of intuition for himself in order to perceive himself. All what He thinks physically exists. All individual minds are a part of the Universal Mind of the Absolute. In order to know himself God has to think himself. But to know itself and become self-conscious it needs something other or opposite, as Fichte argued. This starts the Universe (nature) as anti-thesis and the Mind/Spirit (Geist) is synthesis. God thinks itself through the dialectic process which moves time (history) forward. God comes to know itself through humans which are individual minds in the Universal Mind. That is, human being knowing God (through reason, that is faith) is actually God knowing himself! What if what we think as other objects in the world is actually consciousness itself! That is, we try to understand the objects in the Universe but actually it is conciousness understanding itself. Some day (I think it's gonna be soon) God will achieve full self-consciousness. That is, human beings will understand the ultimate reality and achieve Theory of Everything. This is equivalent to God achieving full self-consciousness.

I think panentheism is the only consistent conception of God. :)

I was working on a project where I tried to model the Universe as God's dialectic thinking:
https://www.academia.edu/7347240/Our_Co ... _Dialectic

What do you think?
jackles
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Re: Hegel: God as self-consciousness coming to know itself

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yes the individual by understanding consciousness as existance knows him self to be the all in everything and the never moving mover .
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I try not to think of Hegel at all.
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Re: Hegel: God as self-consciousness coming to know itself

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volatileworld wrote:What do you think about Hegel's conception of God? I think he was a pan-en-theist.
What if what exists is Universal Consciousness - the Absolute himself. God thinks itself and generates the Universe as his sensorium, that is, He supplies matter of intuition for himself in order to perceive himself. All what He thinks physically exists. All individual minds are a part of the Universal Mind of the Absolute. In order to know himself God has to think himself. But to know itself and become self-conscious it needs something other or opposite, as Fichte argued. This starts the Universe (nature) as anti-thesis and the Mind/Spirit (Geist) is synthesis. God thinks itself through the dialectic process which moves time (history) forward. God comes to know itself through humans which are individual minds in the Universal Mind. That is, human being knowing God (through reason, that is faith) is actually God knowing himself! What if what we think as other objects in the world is actually consciousness itself! That is, we try to understand the objects in the Universe but actually it is conciousness understanding itself. Some day (I think it's gonna be soon) God will achieve full self-consciousness. That is, human beings will understand the ultimate reality and achieve Theory of Everything. This is equivalent to God achieving full self-consciousness.

I think panentheism is the only consistent conception of God. :)

I was working on a project where I tried to model the Universe as God's dialectic thinking:
https://www.academia.edu/7347240/Our_Co ... _Dialectic

What do you think?

"Pan-en-theist" covers a lot of bases, so in this respect I guess you could say he is. However, God as an incomplete version of ourselves is a little bit slippery from my point of view. We can always move the goal posts. In this respect I see Hegel as an, "it will rain" practitioner. It hasn't rained yet, but one day it will. "Arriving" will lead to a paradox. When we finally arrive we will be complete.
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I cannot understand God is the universe as we see it. How did he create the moon stars earth from atoms and such, if he was the universe? I also can't understand God has been around forever. Space possible, because he created all the things we see our of the atoms which were already in the universe. Thoughts? Paul
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Yes this sounds more or less correct. But god as consciousness dosnt create a universe to understand himself cos if ya god you already do understand ya self .
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I think God and space or the universe have both been here forever. God spoke the moon sun stars and the Earth plus us into existence by just speaking it. I feel he used the atoms and space to create our solar system. Just a thought? Paul
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