is there only one blackhole

[jackles]

yes are all black holes joined up (nonlocaly) .are they the blackholes just all one nonlocality (unmoving omni size)..up holding the universal event.

[Blaggard]

No there is a super massive blackhole at the centre of every galaxy and undoubtedly black holes dotted around any galaxy; if a star was large enough when it underwent collapse it went beyond the usual Neutron star, in this rare case even the atomic particles became so close they created a singularity or a point in space that was so gravitationally huge even light can not escape. That said such postulations about things are quite hypothetical, some stars that are larger than about a thousand times our suns mass do seem to do this though.

And I doubt they are linked in any way although if they are it would be bloody fascinating.



Kinda puts it into perspective look how small our sun is compared to some of the stars out there.

Gotta love frame four to scale Sirius is funking huge but it's only a midget compared to some.

Wouldn't mind being around when VY Canis Majoris implodes, that would be some light show.

[jackles]

yeah scale is a strange thing.but i think myself that black holes are all part of an omni size that does not move.so the galaxys are moving relativly but there centres are part of a nonhappening omni size.entanglment seems to show that this underlying omni size exists.

[Blaggard]

it doesn't jackles in any way but hey shine on you crazy diamond.

[jackles]

blags. where time dosnt flow events dont happen.in the blackhole centers time has never happened so they the blackhole centers cant be moving in a happening relative way .the centers are simply in a nonlocal omni size.omni size is the one scaless upholder of all locations from the atom to the totality of the universe as witnessed in entangled particals.

[Hjarloprillar]

Holes covered.. hehe by blaggard... nice pesentation.

If i remember right its six time solmass to begin thinking hole. [singularity]

where mas becomes so great it effectively leaves our rules of order in reality behind and is swathed in cloth of event horizon.
that amazing barrier. A billion gravitas
"a post for which he has the expertise and the gravitas"

we small things and our technoogy would fall in a day if a hole swung through solar system.
nothing we know or can construct would save us .
homo erectus erectus.. extinct

as far as we know . Nothing in reality can withstand the might of a billion gravities from behind shield of event horizon.
Singularities are terrifying but rare.
yah as a 13 year old i had nightmares of singularities. weird kid13
i 'saw them' the eaters of mass great black roiling things of death.
i still fear them

[Hjarloprillar]

"yes are all black holes joined up (nonlocaly) .are they the blackholes just all one nonlocality (unmoving omni size)..up holding the universal event.'

a very interesting idea that fires conceptual imagination. that reality is like those plasma balls where arcs of plasma lightning connect to 3d reality at point of contact.
those points are the holes. a crude analogy but ...

well said

[Blaggard]

Holes covered.. hehe by blaggard... nice pesentation.

If i remember right its six time solmass to begin thinking hole. [singularity]

You may well be right but I think it is way larger than that. I am not knowledgeable about black holes, other than what the usual people know, by which I mean what you pick up in discussion and around the media in general that seems to sink in. I find them deeply troubling, perhaps then I should be knowledgeable.

I'd look it up but then I am not going to, I have better things to do, if someone else could and prove my error precisely feel free, it's after all a forum and I think it's valuable that everyone puts some effort into the dialogue.

I have to say though with the limited knowledge I have: black holes can not be non local, nothing can escape a black holes gravitational pull, that's why they are called black holes. Although I seem to remember Stephen Hawking lost a case of whiskey to a stack of another scientists best porn in a bet, on the idea that black holes cannot lose mass; apparently they can, even black holes can die at the latter days of the universe.

[Hjarloprillar]

" I have black holes can not be non local"

agree but 'what if'. those [terrible words] holes are not singular but paths to a bigger thing.

I think holes are like the suns they were, free objects. i cant say that is near truth but its an inuition.
they certainly act like free phenomena.
prill

[jackles]

sorry only just seen this.thanks for the reply hajarlo.yes we are in side some sort of matrix of blackholes and they are all joined up .its where the moving and the unmoving connect.

[Impenitent]

there is only one black hole

but there are a myriad of chocolate donuts

-Imp

[jackles]

with or without holes in the middle i like dem donuts with a nice cup of tea.

[Arising_uk]

sorry only just seen this.thanks for the reply hajarlo.yes we are in side some sort of matrix of blackholes and they are all joined up .its where the moving and the unmoving connect.

What are you talking about? If black holes exist then they are just areas where gravity rules and light and matter cannot escape? At their centre will be an extremely compressed mass. No magical connections.

[jackles]

whats the other side of the gravity event horizon then arising.fresh air.somthings gone back to no thing.and no thing means it never happened .because the somthing that happen via the 4 forces was an illusion created by no thing all the while.

[Blaggard]

Jackles no offence but this question makes no sense at all. Given that you could probably look half the information I have already given you up, it behooves you to do so, or you will continue to ask stupid questions.

On the other side of the event horizon is undefined, no one knows as physics breaks down in a black hole, it is not nothing though because nothing exerts no force and breaks the law of thermodynamics, clearly hence there is something there we just don't know how to describe it a) because we have never been inside a black hole b) because were we to do so we would be killed instantly by the gravity presumably c) we can hence only infer what might be going on in something that appears to have a singularity or tentatively theorise might have one beyond the event horizon.

We don't know some stuff jackles it's why science is atm interesting, if we knew everything it would be redundant. What we don't know though, is, as sure as shit as taking an unknown and making wild conjecture on it, why religion exists, at least call a spade a spade.

We can and have speculated on what might happen outside of a blackhole there is some entanglement possibility for sure in that virtual photons could hypothetically be created and hence could cause mass decay of a black hole but that's in itself speculation; assuming they exist which is not even a given. What we can't do is talk mistifying bs at least in science about what happens inside a black hole or how black holes work, we have some tentative evidence that vast gravitational objects exist, light seems unable to escape from the gravity well, that is atm all we can say, we call that a black hole for want of a better word, it could in fact be a series of thousands of neutron stars it could be many things, we just like to make it simple by assuming it is one object we cannot see directly.