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Yeah it's all about the mental imagery it's very well done, and for a French art film I think it does well, without being over heavy on the usual ars gratis artis, or art for arts sake thing that some French films tend to indulge in because one can only assume they are following a meme. It's classy without being overly pretentious, a rare feat in a medium that is often classy and sometimes clearly a pretentious medium, although not always and only in some cases.

The French do some Great movies though, and I don't just mean good I mean brilliant, as do the Germans, and Spanish and Itallians and so on, you probably miss out on a lot if you don't like sub-titles. Don't get me wrong Hollywood has some fine films, but you should probably spread yourself across the language barrier if you want to see a lot of good films. I can recommend a few, but I wont, because frankly some people hate to read but I'll drop just one name, Akira Kurosawa, and if you know what that means, you might be open to foreign films. The man who famously gave back his oscar saying that the whole thing was self congratulatory bullshit. And without whom Clint Eastwood would probably have had a much shorter career. :P
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Farewell my Concubine is a beautiful Chinese film. American films these days are 99 per cent shit, and they always mess with the endings. Apparently Americans can't handle sad endings.
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Look at how Disney bastardised The Little Mermaid story. And England should have declared war for what the yanks did to Winnie the Pooh.
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I've not seen it (Farewell my Concubine), but certainly I should. Thanks for the recommendation, their you go I haven't seen everything. :)

If American film studios were that bad I am sure such greats with very down beat endings would never have been made but I take your point. Titanic would probably of ended with the ship limping into New York if some numb nuts had their way, but it's harsh to say all American movie makers are like that. Blade Runner ends with Decker being on the run from the police after he falls in love with a replicant. Well the list is fairly endless but.

Have you ever seen Brazil by Terry Gilliam of 12 Monkeys and Monty Python fame. The studio refused to release it in America without a more upbeat ending, so Terry posted an article in Vanity Fare asking people to write to the studio so that it would be shown in its original form. Suffice to say, so many people in the US did that it was shown. The ending remained unedited, even in the US, and trust me as funny and entertaining as the film is the end is very depressing. Put it this way, it's a masterpiece, and if you like dystopian modern fantasies, or 1984 or Farenheit 471 you will love it, but it certainly, like most Gilliam films does not pull its punches.

You could do worse and look out for a cameo from Robert Deniro, as usual whatever scene he is in he shines. :)

And Disney are evil VT make no bones about it, what they did to the Jungle Book was nothing short of blasphemy. :P

But then Walt Disney was well known for being incredibly antisemtic, he once fired one of his staff when he found out they were Jewish, and that was sent up mercilessly by other people in the film industry. For example WB wrote a cartoon about Wagner, you might remember it, and you might recall Hitler was a big fan of Wagner, it had the Ride of the Valkyries in it.

Kill the Wabbit! :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxiv3CBMS4M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHivHuPFBqA

This was a deliberate dig at Disney by Warner Brothers, who as you might know are fronted by some very powerful Jewish magnates. Gotta love them Jews, that sort of wry and subtle dig is priceless and very Jewish... ;) :)
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Blaggard wrote:I've not seen it (Farewell my Concubine), but certainly I should. Thanks for the recommendation, their you go I haven't seen everything. :)

If American film studios were that bad I am sure such greats with very down beat endings would never have been made but I take your point. Titanic would probably of ended with the ship limping into New York if some numb nuts had their way, but it's harsh to say all American movie makers are like that. Blade Runner ends with Decker being on the run from the police after he falls in love with a replicant. Well the list is fairly endless but.

Have you ever seen Brazil by Terry Gilliam of 12 Monkeys and Monty Python fame. The studio refused to release it in America without a more upbeat ending, so Terry posted an article in Vanity Fare asking people to write to the studio so that it would be shown in its original form. Suffice to say, so many people in the US did that it was shown. The ending remained unedited, even in the US, and trust me as funny and entertaining as the film is the end is very depressing. Put it this way, it's a masterpiece, and if you like dystopian modern fantasies, or 1984 or Farenheit 471 you will love it, but it certainly, like most Gilliam films does not pull its punches.

You could do worse and look out for a cameo from Robert Deniro, as usual whatever scene he is in he shines. :)

And Disney are evil VT make no bones about it, what they did to the Jungle Book was nothing short of blasphemy. :P

But then Walt Disney was well known for being incredibly antisemtic, he once fired one of his staff when he found out they were Jewish, and that was sent up mercilessly by other people in the film industry. For example WB wrote a cartoon about Wagner, you might remember it, and you might recall Hitler was a big fan of Wagner, it had the Ride of the Valkyries in it.

Kill the Wabbit! :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxiv3CBMS4M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHivHuPFBqA

This was a deliberate dig at Disney by Warner Brothers, who as you might know are fronted by some very powerful Jewish magnates. Gotta love them Jews, that sort of wry and subtle dig is priceless and very Jewish... ;) :)
Halelujah! A great film you haven't seen!
There are a lot more with falsely 'upbeat' endings, or at least not totally miserable ones. What they did with the Hannibal ending was insane. 'The Vanishing' is an American remake of a much better Dutch film, and the ending has been turned into a vanilla cop-out.
I didn't say ALL recent American films are terrible. Only 99 per cent. :)
Blade runner is old enough to be good. I thought 1987's Cherry 2000, with a pre-plastic-surgery Melanie Griffith, was pretty good too.
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Well tbh I think of course that Merkins do much better if they are making a film that sticks to the original book or a film that is original. Obviously. I do agree whole heartedly if you are adapting a script from a book if you change the end to pander to idiots then you are pretty much a wanker raping the medium. That said of course there are some things that need artistic license, these are so few and far between as to be almost never, but there you go. I could do without U751 claiming once again that the Amercians won the war single handed and with no help form anyone but those plucky Yanks, or Pearl harbour doing the same. Don't get me wrong the story of how the enigma code was broken and how the Japs were defeated is fascinating, but if it's just nonsensical blather it's a waste of time even making the movie. History is kinda known, you can't change it because it will appeal to a broader bunch of remtards who live on the moon. The united allied and American forces won the war. Is it too much to ask that you don't basically shit on all those non Americans who gave their lives to defeat Germany? Apparently not? It actually genuinely disgusts me when they do that, put that America won WWII shit out there, because it's just not true, and it's just nothing at all to do with reality. The war America and let me tell you was won by a global effort not by one egotistical race of cunts with a hard on, please for all that is honest admit you didn't win the war, you joined way too late, and all you did was shorten the outcome somewhat so can the bs you dumb hicks. The Russians had an army 10 times the size of yours, the allied forces were in fact even larger by a margin that is not even funny, your forces were vital but they were not the b all and end all.

American recent films seem to be just remaking old films that never needed a remake so we are flooded with films we have already seen with modern actors, don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with remaking a film per se, but if you are going to remake a classic please make it not a pile of shit it's so much better when it's not just a pile of wank.

That said some of my favourite films of all time are of course American, Fight Club and The Usual Suspects should appear in anyone's top ten, if not their top ten of favourites, top ten of must see movies before you die. Americans do make sublime movies and always have done, but to cut a long story short if you are going to write about a history we already know, please just fucking do so, not write some trite bs about how you are mighty and everyone else was a minor player in your massive ego trip. It will so help people actually care what you think. There are actually people out there who lost family in that saga, it would be nice if you didn't demean their memory subjugate all they did and fought for and died for by playing down their sacrifice so you can wank over yoursleves, k. :)
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Blaggard wrote:Well tbh I think of course that Merkins do much better if they are making a film that sticks to the original book or a film that is original. Obviously. I do agree whole heartedly if you are adapting a script from a book if you change the end to pander to idiots then you are pretty much a wanker raping the medium. That said of course there are some things that need artistic license, these are so few and far between as to be almost never, but there you go. I could do without U751 claiming once again that the AMercians won the war, or Pearl harbour doing the same. Don't get me wrong the story of how the enigma code was broken and how the Japs were defeated is fascinating, but if it's just nonsensical blather it's a waste of time even making the movie. History is kinda known, you can't change it because it will appeal to a broader bunch of remtards who live on the moon.

American recent films seem to be just remaking old films that never needed a remake so we are flooded with films we have already seen with modern actors, don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with remaking a film per se, but if you are going to remake a classic please make it not a pile of shit it's so much better when it's not just a pile of wank.
Remakes are always crap and pointless. Imagine remaking Casablanca! Who would take the Bogey part? Tom Cruise? Give me a break. Johnny Depp's Willy Wonka was an embarrassing travesty. The original Fright Night was brilliant; funny, sexy and a bit scary too, with normal-looking actors. The remake of course was garbage. There are few Hollywood actors I can take seriously these days, and they are always the 'ugly' ones lol. Steve Buschemi, Phillip Seymour-Hoffman, John Goodman, Jeff Bridges (not ugly, but an exception).....
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They will remake Cassablanca, it is only a matter of time. They have it seems run out of good script writers, which is of course not true, it's just you are appealing to a load of people who want and expect to see x, so anything novel has to fight 1 million times harder. No ideas left of course not, but LA is one humongous conformity magnet I am afraid. :)

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Blaggard wrote:They will remake Cassablanca, it is only a matter of time. They have it seems run out of good script writers, which is of course not true, it's just you are appealing to a load of people who want and expect to see x, so anything novel has to fight 1 million times harder. No ideas left of course not, but LA is one humongous conformity magnet I am afraid. :)

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It's all so fake and plastic now, especially the people. Have you noticed how the CGI effects look so much more fake than the cardboard sets of old films like Ben Hur? I love those old epics, but I wouldn't bother with the new 'Noah'.
I will be interested to hear what you think of that Chinese film. It's very long, but it's one of those films that don't seem it.
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Nor would I the only films I am watching that come out of the plastic fantastic America these days I heavily vet for bs. That said The Hobbit, well call me a hypocrite but I does like me some Tolkien.

Americans have of course made the best movies on Earth ever and no one can argue that, but it seems the movie industry is now run by idiots for people who just want to watch something very tired that has either already been made or is just a carbon copy and formulaic. As I said you are really talking about a massive conformity magnet these days. And of course you will never go wrong by appealing to the lowest common denominator. If it draws in the crowds and the cash Hollywood would remake Casablanca, and no doubt as I say it is in the pipe line. Starring Brad Pitt as Rick, Wesley Snipes as that plucky pianist, and Catherine Zeta Jones as Ricks love interest, the role of her husband will be played by Jon Voight, and the French commander by Gerard Depardieu. The Nazis of course will be played by Englishmen, as apparently England is the new Nazi Germany in any American film, and as Anglo Saxons we can do that accent well. ;)

CGI is ok but as anyone knows you can throw 100 million at special effects but if the story sucks it's like throwing it on a fire. I can of course cite several examples but I think I will leave it at Battlefield Earth, nice special effects, good actors I mean it's got Forrest Whittaker in it for God's sake perhaps one of the finest black American actors in the US, but the plot was so bad it was embarrassing.
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Blaggard wrote:Nor would I the only films I am watching that come out of the plastic fantastic America these days I heavily vet for bs. That said The Hobbit, well call me a hypocrite but I does like me some Tolkien.

Americans have of course made the best movies on Earth ever and no one can argue that, but it seems the movie industry is now run by idiots for people who just want to watch something very tired that has either already been made or is just a carbon copy and formulaic. As I said you are really talking about a massive conformity magnet these days. And of course you will never go wrong by appealing to the lowest common denominator. If it draws in the crowds and the cash Hollywood would remake Casablanca, and no doubt as I say it is in the pipe line. Starring Brad Pitt as Rick, Wesley Snipes as that plucky pianist, and Catherine Zeta Jones as Ricks love interest, the role of her husband will be played by Jon Voight, and the French commander by Gerard Depardieu. The Nazis of course will be played by Englishmen, as apparently England is the new Nazi Germany in any American film, and as Anglo Saxons we can do that accent well. ;)

CGI is ok but as anyone knows you can throw 100 million at special effects but if the story sucks it's like throwing it on a fire. I can of course cite several examples but I think I will leave it at Battlefield Earth, nice special effects, good actors I mean it's got Forrest Whittaker in it for God's sake perhaps one of the finest black American actors in the US, but the plot was so bad it was embarrassing.
I was joking about Casablanca, but 'god' forbid, you are probably right. 'Brad Pitt':my pet hate. What a deeply unattractive man, always touted as the benchmark for male sex-appeal. What a joke.
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ps The Hobbit is directed by a New Zealander, and made there, so that probably makes all the difference. :)
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Pleasantville. A clever film.
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"Dark Star". Sci-Fi-Film in which an astronaut tries to teach phenomenology to an intelligent bomb to convince it not to explode. First movie by John Carpenter. No budget - but lots of humour.
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Thozau wrote:"Dark Star". Sci-Fi-Film in which an astronaut tries to teach phenomenology to an intelligent bomb to convince it not to explode. First movie by John Carpenter. No budget - but lots of humour.
Sounds like that is right up my alley Thozau thanks. :)
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Pleasantville. A clever film.
It's a good allegory of many things, particularly racism. One of those films that you watch and can't help but weep about the human condition going forward.
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