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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
bobevenson wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Corporations are anti-creativity, anti-originality.
Tell that to the ghost of Steve Jobs.
He founded his own business. When businesses get too big and begin sucking up smaller businesses like a demonic industrial vacuum cleaner they become 'corporations'.
What businesses did Apple suck up?
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SpheresOfBalance wrote: You lack truth and history, which is that of which I speak. I spoke of why it was initially made illegal, which only speaks of the truth of history, since it was made so, quite some time ago, come on Bob keep up! ;-)
Quit talking in generalities. If you have a specific point or argument, make it, but don't play ring-around-the-rosie. If rich people made it illegal, who were they, and what is the source for this revelation
It has to do with the "Endocannabinoid system," found in humans, which supports the immune system among other things, and it just so happens that "cannabis" has at least 85 different cannabinoids, and that the government, medical system and FDA knew that cannabis had a positive affect on cancer, back when Nixon declared war on it. It was really all about protecting those with interests in big Pharma. It was all about money, not truth. As a matter of fact, back then, some company somehow affiliated with the US National Cancer Institute patented some method or procedure, utilizing cannabis to treat cancer. It would seem that it was all about control, for the love of money, and not the welfare of it's people, that the government was concerned.

I'm sorry, but when the model of an always growing economy, supersedes a truth, that aids in maintaining human lives, often against death, is instituted, those controlling such things are killing people for the sake of money. Just like that of "eugenics" and other "unethical human experimentation" that the US and other countries have been guilty of in the past, making them an unnecessary evil, in my book. "...by the people, for the people..."?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
bobevenson wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Corporations are anti-creativity, anti-originality.
Tell that to the ghost of Steve Jobs.
He founded his own business. When businesses get too big and begin sucking up smaller businesses like a demonic industrial vacuum cleaner they become 'corporations'.
Veggie said that bobby, here I corrected it for you!
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Oh, I'm sorry, it's hard to identify you anti-free-market people; you all look alike.
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bobevenson wrote:Oh, I'm sorry, it's hard to identify you anti-free-market people; you all look alike.
What ever works Bob, what ever works! I don't like money at all, Bob!
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Oh, I'm sorry, it's hard to identify you anti-free-market people; you all look alike.
What ever works Bob, what ever works! I don't like money at all, Bob!
Well, that's because it's the root of all evil.
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bobevenson wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:
bobevenson wrote:Oh, I'm sorry, it's hard to identify you anti-free-market people; you all look alike.
What ever works Bob, what ever works! I don't like money at all, Bob!
Well, that's because it's the root of all evil.
Yes, but in my book that's not the end of it. If money is the root, then selfishness is the seed, and is in fact the end item; the origin!
In fact that phrases' origin is the bible and is actually, "the love of money is the root of all evil" (or all kinds of evil), which points to the seed, selfishness. Actually in this case, love can be seen as want or desire, and when it does evil, it's definitely selfish, no?
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:In fact that phrase's origin is the Bible and is actually, "the love of money is the root of all evil."
I'm sorry, but I can't accept any Biblical reference outside the book of Revelation.
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bobevenson wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:In fact that phrase's origin is the Bible and is actually, "the love of money is the root of all evil."
I'm sorry, but I can't accept any Biblical reference outside the book of Revelation.
I'm sorry but I can not accept any argument unless it is specifically within goal posts which I understand and will not. Bob that's just sad mater.

You used that phrase and ironically you can't accept it?

Are you from Earth bob? You can't use a phrase and then say you don't want to talk about it. Bob that's just numbnut?

SoB is of course right people who are rich are not by definition bad people, there are many rich people who give millions to charity and leave themselves broke at the end of their lives, giving only enough to their scions to let them live comfortably and putting billions into the hands of people who do not. How could they be evil hence. But people who are loving of money above all else, well they are of course moneyed or not, thieves or not, quite immoral. It is people who see money as indicative of social status, who pronounce bad will on others for not having money that are the route of all evil. And as a rich moneyed mf I should know, (someone who was born into poverty who made a stupid amount of money out of the system possibly values things differently than the entitled silver spooned idiot), I would and will give all my riches away in an instance to those who need it. For no other reason than they should have it, because I frankly never deserved it, and to me my bank balance such as it is, scores nothing on my consciousness and means nothing at all to me. I don't think my large wealth adds anything to me as a person any more than I think people who are rich should regard their position as adding anything to them. What really matters is not how much you have, but how "much" you have. Think about it, it's a conundrum. ;)
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Blaggard wrote:SoB is of course right people who are rich are not by definition bad people, there are many rich people who give millions to charity.
No, you are both wrong; people who give money to charity are fools, and damned fools at that; giving money to non-profit organizations that don't face the discipline of the marketplace is like throwing money down a rat hole.
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Yes bob of course people who don't stack vast wealth they can never use for the sole purpose of gaining power over other are just sublime individuals who we should all bow down to like they are our betters. Money is like a score board, the more you have the more worth you have.

Bob are you even from Earth I mean even remotely from Earth? Or did you just grow up in some mushroom field being fed by Randyan bollocks.

How much money do you have Bob?

I bet I have more than you, I am a multi millionaire, I have close to 60 million in my bank account. I am so rich and I am hence better than you.

Bob you're an idiot.

just know this though I have made millions of pounds and am vastly wealthy, so much more wealthy than you will ever be, and nothing you can do bob will ever make you measure up to me, nothing at all.

"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away...
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Blaggard wrote:Yes bob of course people who don't stack vast wealth they can never use for the sole purpose of gaining power over other are just sublime individuals who we should all bow down to like they are our betters. Money is like a score board, the more you have the more worth you have.

Bob are you even from Earth I mean even remotely from Earth? Or did you just grow up in some mushroom field being fed by Randyan bollocks.

How much money do you have Bob?

I bet I have more than you, I am a multi millionaire, I have close to 60 million in my bank account. I am so rich and I am hence better than you.

Bob you're an idiot.

just know this though I have made millions of pounds and am vastly wealthy, so much more wealthy than you will ever be, and nothing you can do bob will ever make you measure up to me, nothing at all.
It just goes to show you, money can't buy everything, and in your case, anything.
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It just goes to show you are a massive hypocrite bob doesn't it really.

The way you think is like looking at a mushroom in a field being constantly fertilised by shit. You claim that the rich are entitled, that they should not have to pay tax. And yet when you actually boil your mythology down it's just the contradictory bullshit of a person who is lost in a sea of hypocrisy.

You laud things you don't understand, you preach politics you don't remotely understand. And use sophistry to drive home a point you don't even remotely understand.

Bob you are just embarrassing yourself with this mindless babble, we all know it, you need to go out into the real world learn how politics works, and then come back when you have a clue. Becuase at the moment all you are doing is making yourself look like a fool. But then when did anyone ever expect sense from the Tea Party mushrooms?
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Blaggard wrote:It just goes to show you are a massive hypocrite bob doesn't it really.

The way you think is like looking at a mushroom in a field being constantly fertilised by shit. You claim that the rich are entitled, that they should not have to pay tax. And yet when you actually boil your mythology down it's just the contradictory bullshit of a person who is lost in a sea of hypocrisy.

You laud things you don't understand, you preach politics you don't remotely understand. And use sophistry to drive home a point you don't even remotely understand.

Bob you are just embarrassing yourself with this mindless babble, we all know it, you need to go out into the real world learn how politics works, and then come back when you have a clue. Becuase at the moment all you are doing is making yourself look like a fool. But then when did anyone ever expect sense from the Tea Party mushrooms?
Mindless babble? I must be learning from the master. No, I could never live up to your billing.
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@Bob It wouldn't be so bad if not for the irresistable compulsion of corporations to get bigger and bigger, and more and more powerful, gobbling up competition and creating monopolies. Here, you can forget about visiting your friendly, family dentist that is actually owned by the dentist. Most are now owned by multinational corporations based in fuck-knows-where by fuck-knows-who. Electrical companies have mostly gone the same way.Veterinerary clinics seem to be going along that path too. Doctors surgeries will probably be next. Some Western, developed countries have only two supermarket chains left, and about the same number of power and communication companies! I fail to see how someone who claims to be for 'freedom' and 'free-market capitalism' could possible approve of anti-competition monopolising like this.
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