Health Policy of the American Energy Party (AEP)

[henry quirk]

A suggestion: I'll take care of 'me'; you take care of 'you'; he (that fellow over there) takes care of 'himself'; she (that gal over there) takes care of 'herself' (and on and on).

If, for some reason, you can't take care of 'you', feel free to ask (any one) for an assist.

Surely, there are folks who'll just jump at the chance to lend a hand (or a buck).

Definitely, there are folks who'll firmly decline to lend an assist (and, when such *bastids come a'knockin', lookin' for an assist, you should refuse them as matter-of-factly as they refused you or another).

Seems, to me, the best solution.











*like me

[bobevenson]

The AEP health policy is contingent upon a government decision that everybody is entitled to health care, and is set up to minimize abuse and fraud, but allowing everybody to make his own healthcare decisions within the free market.

[henry quirk]

"a government decision that everybody is entitled to health care"

Yeah, and just look at the steaming pile of shit we're all up to our chins in simply because lawmakers decided "everybody is entitled to health care".

Better, I think, if 'governors' turn a blind eye to 'health care' and let folks sort it out for, and among, themselves.

[bobevenson]

That may very well be true, but if a government decision is going to be made to provide universal healthcare, it's the AEP version rather than the Obamacare version that needs to be implemented.

[henry quirk]

No offense, Bob, but I'm no more willing to abide the AEP version than I am the ACA.

Either way: I'm a criminal.

[bobevenson]

No, you're not a criminal under the AEP version since you're not stealing from one person to give to another. Everybody gets the same benefit whether you're a billionaire or homeless.

[henry quirk]

This is your plan, yes?

The government must set up identical healthcare accounts for everybody, whether he be a billionaire or homeless. It needs to be a specific dollar amount invested in that person's name and funded annually by the government. People are able to charge health expenses of any kind to that account, including health insurance, doctor visits, presciptions and hospital care, all purchased by the individual in the free market.

If so: yes, I would be a criminal.

*I will invest not one penny of my money into a government-run healthcare account (that I'll never use [why would I?]).

My cash will stay with me, spent as 'I' see fit.









*'you do that already, Quirk, by way of your taxes'

*ahem*

It is April 15th...I've filed no income return...I've written no checks...my only tax burden is state/local sales tax (and if I could circumvent that, I would)

'then you're a parasite, Henry!'

that's one way of lookin' at it...another: I had no hand in crafting this system and society...can't see how I'm obligated to do jack in service to either...there are other ways to fund the 'necessities' that have nuthin' to do with taxes...that a bunch of dead folks chose taxation instead of one of the other funding sources, well, that's just not my problem

'you should go live elsewhere, then'

yeah, yeah, yeah...the pedestrian mantra foisted up by Left and Right ('rule of law' and 'love it or leave it' and 'obey')...pffftt!

[bobevenson]

Unfortunately, in a society there has to be taxes to pay for a variety of things that benefit the population at large. The question is how to raise the necessary taxes. The AEP taxation policy is the only proper one. For universal health coverage, everybody is treated equally. If you don't want the benefit, you can obviously ignore it, just like you can fire or police protection.

[henry quirk]

"there has to be taxes to pay for a variety of things that benefit the population at large"

Actually, there just has to be funding to pay for a variety of things benefiting certain (perhaps, large numbers of) folks.

Not every one benefits in the same way or to the same degree from gov-administered services...no reason why folks ought to all pay the same amounts, or the same percentages, and no reason income should be the standard used.

An example: to fund roads, charge the users...I do a lot of driving (*100 miles plus, daily)...I'd be willing to buy blocks of miles to pay for my use of the roads...lil old lady Emily (who has no car) would pay nuthin' (not directly, anyway). This (my paying for my use of the roads) seems sensible. What is not sensible: taking a chunk of my income so lawmakers (on the state and federal levels) can spend it as they like (supposedly according to the dictates of law ).

In the same way: I'll pay for the medical services I use with the **money in my pocket (and I won't pay for the other guy's).

Can't see why my health (the cost of it) is the business of any one but me and my doc.

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"If you don't want the benefit, you obviously can reject it."

But would I still have to pony up the 'premiums'?








*on average


**'not everyone is fortunate enough to have money or enough money, Quirk'

boo-hoo...cry me a river, Lucille...

[bobevenson]

Under AEP policy, the only thing that's taxed is property, property being defined as anything that has intrinsic market value. Bottom line is that the government is basically protecting property, with social integration and human rights being a critical but indirect benefit. Therefore, all property must be taxed, personal property, business property, and non-profit property, with no exemptions of any kind. If the government decides that something must be done as general benefit like defense or police and fire protection, it has to be paid from tax money. However, if it is determined that a certain group of people need a special benefit, then everybody must receive that benefit, which is how the AEP health policy is set up.

[henry quirk]

"if it is determined that a certain group of people need a special benefit, then everybody must receive that benefit, which is how the AEP health policy is set up"

No thanks...

[bobevenson]

"if it is determined that a certain group of people need a special benefit, then everybody must receive that benefit, which is how the AEP health policy is set up"

No thanks...

Well, you're still going to have to pay taxes or find someplace on this planet where you don't have a tax liability but have to fend for yourself.

[henry quirk]

I'm not payin' 'em now (under the current scheme); I won't pay 'em later (under yours)...*shrug*

[bobevenson]

Obviously, you're paying taxes, whether it be income tax, sales tax or the myriads of other improper taxes.

[henry quirk]

Yeah...sales...wish I could figure a way to skip out on those too.