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Proud Cosmopolitan
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April 6th marked the 20 year anniversary of the Rwanda Genocide and I wondered if it was "just me" or was everyone else thinking it seemed just "so wrong" that at the time the leaders of the Western leaders were primarily sleepless with concern about just their own nationals and not the Rwandans or Rwandese who were being massacred.
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Proud Cosmopolitan wrote:April 6th marked the 20 year anniversary of the Rwanda Genocide and I wondered if it was "just me" or was everyone else thinking it seemed just "so wrong" that at the time the leaders of the Western leaders were primarily sleepless with concern about just their own nationals and not the Rwandans or Rwandese who were being massacred.
You need to make a deeper philosophical point, it's glaringly obvious that it's wrong and very bad, but the outside world needs motivation to intervein in such a conflict.
To wage war is costly, and with such kind of conflict it's hard to put military to dampen the violence as there's no clearly defined enemy to be erradicated, as they are civilians fighiting amongst eachother.
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HexHammer wrote:
Proud Cosmopolitan wrote:April 6th marked the 20 year anniversary of the Rwanda Genocide and I wondered if it was "just me" or was everyone else thinking it seemed just "so wrong" that at the time the leaders of the Western leaders were primarily sleepless with concern about just their own nationals and not the Rwandans or Rwandese who were being massacred.
You need to make a deeper philosophical point, it's glaringly obvious that it's wrong and very bad, but the outside world needs motivation to intervein in such a conflict.
To wage war is costly, and with such kind of conflict it's hard to put military to dampen the violence as there's no clearly defined enemy to be erradicated, as they are civilians fighiting amongst eachother.

But the key question is "Wasn't 1 side being GENOCIDED OUT OF EXISTENCE?"
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Proud Cosmopolitan wrote:
HexHammer wrote:
Proud Cosmopolitan wrote:April 6th marked the 20 year anniversary of the Rwanda Genocide and I wondered if it was "just me" or was everyone else thinking it seemed just "so wrong" that at the time the leaders of the Western leaders were primarily sleepless with concern about just their own nationals and not the Rwandans or Rwandese who were being massacred.
You need to make a deeper philosophical point, it's glaringly obvious that it's wrong and very bad, but the outside world needs motivation to intervein in such a conflict.
To wage war is costly, and with such kind of conflict it's hard to put military to dampen the violence as there's no clearly defined enemy to be erradicated, as they are civilians fighiting amongst eachother.

But the key question is "Wasn't 1 side being GENOCIDED OUT OF EXISTENCE?"
Rwanda had no oil or natural resources of note, why would the Western world care unless they could exploit the country?
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Proud Cosmopolitan wrote:But the key question is "Wasn't 1 side being GENOCIDED OUT OF EXISTENCE?"
How do you stop such a war, when you can't distinct the bad from good?
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That's it Hex, I am watching you one more joke or fanciful post and:

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I don't make the law. ;)
HexHammer wrote:
Proud Cosmopolitan wrote:But the key question is "Wasn't 1 side being GENOCIDED OUT OF EXISTENCE?"
How do you stop such a war, when you can't distinct the bad from good?
You start with the wrong premise: how can you not declare war if you never distinguished right from wrong. Not that I am saying the Third Reich had no morals per se but it seems pretty clear to me that ethics is more than Mein Kampf.
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Bear with me since all this stuff about "countries looking out for their nationals abroad even at the expense of non nationals in situations where "considerations of humanity and humanitarianism" ought to outweigh or trump "considerations of nationality and citizenship" made me sort of embarrassed or :oops: to be Canadian for I am sure Canada was just as guilty of that sort of thing as any other country. In different circumstances if I had the opportunity to travel abroad I wondered if I ought to have either "opted out" of consular services or jut not registered with the Canadian Embassy for if I researched any trip beforehand I may have been less likely to need consular services to begin with.
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