Insanity of a Ruler

[WanderingLands]

We are of sheep when we follow the leader without questioning their imposed validity of rule. We are governed by fear of being ostracized - we all know this rulership is bogus, but we still follow it because we are forced to do so. Thus there’s people who no longer think for themselves, but regurgitate the rules of what others tell you to follow.

Nature is made of communities; not imposed rulership, or imposed government bureaucracies. Who gives a fuck if the government has an army of weapons, or if the government controls everything. They can even try to control our minds, but there’s always people who will see this wasteland for what it truly is.

Amen to you all.

[Impenitent]

the limits of my language are the limits of my world... Wittgenstein

one is ruled by too many things, but political correctness is always double plus good

-Imp

[bobevenson]

They can even try to control our minds.

Our minds are controlled by all of our institutions.

[WanderingLands]

the limits of my language are the limits of my world... Wittgenstein

one is ruled by too many things, but political correctness is always double plus good

-Imp

Political Correctness is an ideology of blindness and ignorance of the hard truth. It sugarcoats things and often persecutes those who question authority.

[mickthinks]

We are of sheep when we follow the leader without questioning their imposed validity of rule.
If you mean "questioning the validity of their imposed rule", then yes, I agree with you,

We are governed by fear of being ostracized
Are you? I'm not.

we all know this rulership is bogus, ...
Which rulers are you thinking of? Not all rulers are bogus.

... we still follow it because we are forced to do so.
I agree that the power to govern rests ultimately on violence and because of that, we have no choice but to comply or be destroyed. This is true even for those of us who do question the validity.

Nature is made of communities; not imposed rulership, or imposed government bureaucracies.
Nature is made of teeth and bloody claws. Bureaucracies are a mark of civilisation.

Political Correctness is an ideology of blindness and ignorance of the hard truth.
No it's not.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Political correctness is the enemy of free speech. Where does it come from? Is it a collective subconscious agreement, or is it simply one group of people imposing its views on everyone else? There is nothing wrong with good manners and empathy, but political correctness is something else altogether. It seems to go hand in hand with hypocrisy, which is what makes it particularly nauseating. Can anyone define it?

[WanderingLands]

we all know this rulership is bogus, ...
Which rulers are you thinking of? Not all rulers are bogus.

Rulers that wield their power to oppress and shaft the masses and whip them into meaningless conformity.

Nature is made of communities; not imposed rulership, or imposed government bureaucracies.
Nature is made of teeth and bloody claws. Bureaucracies are a mark of civilisation.

Make no mistake of confusing tyranny and human selfishness with "human progress". One needs to look at the fall of Rome, the Monarchs, the Communists, and now the United States to prove that bureaucracies are evil and serve only the agenda of the few up on the class system pole.

Political Correctness is an ideology of blindness and ignorance of the hard truth.
No it's not.

Then what is "Political Correctness" to you, then?

[WanderingLands]

Political correctness is the enemy of free speech. Where does it come from? Is it a collective subconscious agreement, or is it simply one group of people imposing its views on everyone else? There is nothing wrong with good manners and empathy, but political correctness is something else altogether. It seems to go hand in hand with hypocrisy, which is what makes it particularly nauseating. Can anyone define it?

PC is pretty much government and institutions imposing their ideology onto others.

[Blaggard]

Nature is made of teeth and bloody claws. Bureaucracies are a mark of civilisation.

"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of The Bureaucracy."

Joseph Hellier: Catch-22.

Political correctness is the enemy of free speech. Where does it come from? Is it a collective subconscious agreement, or is it simply one group of people imposing its views on everyone else? There is nothing wrong with good manners and empathy, but political correctness is something else altogether. It seems to go hand in hand with hypocrisy, which is what makes it particularly nauseating. Can anyone define it?

Pick up a copy of The Daily Fail and chances are it will have the phrase, ""blackboards in Hartfordhire primary school banned, it's political correctness gone mad!" I didn't fight and die in 3 world wars to have communists and niggers telling me how I can address a board made for chalk. And another thing I resent the implication that the goal of sex is mutual pleasure outlined by another reader who will remain nameless, I have been married for 62 years and I can honestly say I have never brought my wife to oragsm once!!""£"£$£%Rf" coming over here stealing our jobs, they should go back to bongo bongo land on the next bananna boat, <ignorant racist diatribe here tailing off to a serious of self righteous guffaws>

In the editorial section, they make it up anyway but meh...

Incidentally they supported Hitler before the war, to put it into perspective.

[mickthinks]

{I think of as bogus] Rulers that wield their power to oppress and shaft the masses and whip them into meaningless conformity.

Despots who have that much power are all too real and not at all bogus, though they might make bogus claims to justify their actions.

Then what is "Political Correctness" to you, then?
It's a term of abuse used, mainly by privileged right-wingers, to make ad populum attacks on ideas for promoting social justice.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

{I think of as bogus] Rulers that wield their power to oppress and shaft the masses and whip them into meaningless conformity.

Despots who have that much power are all too real and not at all bogus, though they might make bogus claims to justify their actions.

Then what is "Political Correctness" to you, then?
It's a term of abuse used, mainly by privileged right-wingers, to make ad populum attacks on ideas for promoting social justice.

I think it's a lot more complex than that. Political Correctness attacks the truth. It stifles people. I'm hardly right-wing, just the opposite.
PC is subtle and insidious. No one is suggesting we go back to out-lawing homosexuality, allowing rape in marriage, making wives and children the property of their husbands, throwing pregnant daugthers out into the snow, making black people sit at the back of the bus......There's a big difference though between being liberal (in the real sense of the word) and being politically correct.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

A politically correct person is always telling others they are racist, while enjoying a privileged lifestyle in a white, middle-class neighbourhood.
If someone objects to mass immigration of a group that refuses to assimilate, and wants to impose its culture on the host country, the PC will scream 'racist'. Isn't that what countries go to war for, when one culture is trying to take over another? Isn't it human nature to object and fight for your home? Why is it then suddenly 'racist' when you object to it being done legally? Political correctness a very strange phenomenon, and one for an evolutionary psychologist or anthropologist to try to work out.

[mickthinks]

No one is suggesting we go back to out-lawing homosexuality, allowing rape in marriage, making wives and children the property of their husbands, throwing pregnant daugthers out into the snow, making black people sit at the back of the bus ...

No one? Apart from the fact that many people in many parts of the world suggest and even actively campaign for just those things, veggie, it is you who are simplistic for believing that the struggles to overcome homophobia, misogyny, and racism have been won with the passing of some laws correcting some of the worst injustices.

There's a big difference though between being liberal (in the real sense of the word) and being politically correct.
Of course I agree with you, but that puts you and me in the minority.

A politically correct person is always telling others they are racist,
Some people still are racist and need to be told, I think. Does that make me politically correct in your view?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

No one is suggesting we go back to out-lawing homosexuality, allowing rape in marriage, making wives and children the property of their husbands, throwing pregnant daugthers out into the snow, making black people sit at the back of the bus ...

Apart from the fact that many people in many parts of the world suggest and even actively campaign for just those things, veggie, it is you who are simplistic for believing that the struggles to overcome homophobia, misogyny, and racism have been won with the passing of some laws correcting some of the worst injustices.

There's a big difference though between being liberal (in the real sense of the word) and being politically correct.
Of course I agree with you, but that puts you and me in the minority.

A politically correct person is always telling others they are racist,
Some people still are racist and need to be told, I think. Would you call me politically correct?

I can't write a whole book on here, it's a huge topic. There are parts of the world where they still have stonings too. I'm sure you know what I meant.
There are genuinely liberal people, who are still rational and reasonable, then there are the politically correct fanatics, who go overboard and have everyone scared to breathe. I don't know you well enough to make a judgement. Judging by some of your comments I wouldn't call you politically correct. The politically correct are usually very one-sided and scream demands for 'tolerance,' but this tolerance only ever applies to one side. They don't hold everyone to the same standard of behaviour, hence the hypocrisy.They are a group that I have never been able to fully fathom.

An example of PC 'tolerance' gone barking mad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religio ... hiefs.html

[mickthinks]

The politically correct are usually very one-sided and scream demands for 'tolerance,' but this tolerance only ever applies to one side.

Are you sure? I've never heard anyone asking for tolerance in a screaming voice*, though I have met many people who imagine they hear screaming when the message makes them panic.

Can you cite any actual examples?

ETA: Ah! I see you've added a link to something. I can't find any calls for tolerance, screamed, stammered, or whispered, nor any accusations of racism in that article. You seem a bit confused about this issue, if I may say so, and I am guessing you have some deep emotional feelings that may be preventing you from seeing it calmly and clearly.