Obama and The Nobel Peace Prize

[Blaggard]

That sounds a bit racist, can you explain further? I am not sure you mean that Africans are a sub species or any of that Nazi guff, but you do sound like a fascist.

Why is that racist? Obama's brand of socialism offers us a future of the sword, starvation and pestilence, just like Africa. Welcome to the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

So you are saying that Africas high incidents of pestilence and disease is down to Africans and not their location near to the equator and that Obamas black blood is what leads him to attempt to bring about some weird apocalypse. Yeah you are racist obviously. Are all tea party members this ignorant?

I mean I thought the cliché about them all being dumb bible bashing hicks was simply that a cliché but from my experience there is a core of truth to it.

"Obama is killing people and drinking their blood I tell's ya!"

"Er yeah whatever dude."

[artisticsolution]

Are all tea party members this ignorant?

I mean I thought the cliché about them all being dumb bible bashing hicks was simply that a cliché but from my experience there is a core of truth to it.

"Obama is killing people and drinking their blood I tell's ya!"

"Er yeah whatever dude."

I live in the US and yes, blaggard, that has been my experience. Except some of them do not use as mean of language as Bob, even so...the basic message is the same. They all think Obama is evil for trying to help the poor. "Dirty rotten bassard...how dare he make medical care easily available to the masses. F'n evil do gooders! "

However, I am not sure it is a racial thing every single time. True, it is racially motivated most of the time...but for some....anyone who wanted a more fair and balanced system would be 'evil' no matter what race.

I will never forget how one of my friends...who is tea party republican...one of the level headed ones...told me a story about how she hated our senator Harry Reid. Then she proceeded to tell me how he helped member of her family by hosting a huge fund raiser on their behalf. I was incredulous and said, "Then why do you hate him?" Then she muttered something about his policies of helping people and how it was going to break america..."

I just don't get it...and to tell you the truth...not one tea party/republican has ever been able to explain their doctrine rationally. If I could even gain a little understanding, I still might disagree, but at least I would understand, I don't know how they can still carry a torch for their line of thinking when time after time they are proven wrong through the years.

I don't get it...

[Blaggard]

Are all tea party members this ignorant?

I mean I thought the cliché about them all being dumb bible bashing hicks was simply that a cliché but from my experience there is a core of truth to it.

"Obama is killing people and drinking their blood I tell's ya!"

"Er yeah whatever dude."

I live in the US and yes, blaggard, that has been my experience. Except some of them do not use as mean of language as Bob, even so...the basic message is the same. They all think Obama is evil for trying to help the poor. "Dirty rotten bassard...how dare he make medical care easily available to the masses. F'n evil do gooders! "

However, I am not sure it is a racial thing every single time. True, it is racially motivated most of the time...but for some....anyone who wanted a more fair and balanced system would be 'evil' no matter what race.

I will never forget how one of my friends...who is tea party republican...one of the level headed ones...told me a story about how she hated our senator Harry Reid. Then she proceeded to tell me how he helped member of her family by hosting a huge fund raiser on their behalf. I was incredulous and said, "Then why do you hate him?" Then she muttered something about his policies of helping people and how it was going to break america..."

I just don't get it...and to tell you the truth...not one tea party/republican has ever been able to explain their doctrine rationally. If I could even gain a little understanding, I still might disagree, but at least I would understand, I don't know how they can still carry a torch for their line of thinking when time after time they are proven wrong through the years.

I don't get it...

Thanks good to know I think... :S


Ironically I don't really object to the racism so much as the ignorance, I mean I do think racism is a pernicious evil, but far more damaging I think is stupidity and poor education amongst those who profess an interest in politics, and those who hence form lobby groups.

It always amazes me how much power lobby groups wield in the US, but it's not necessarily a bad thing, I mean there are lobby groups who are not bat fuck insane, business affiliated or whatever I presume. :S

Over here if they get so much as a sniff of a lobby group with an agenda that is related to business the money is basically seized and the government get to call foul, there are laws about how parties can obtain funding for example, it can't come from any business vested individual or if it does it must be declared and it must be a sum that indicates it is not a bribe, ie giving Tony Blair 1 billion pounds, and then mysteriously finding a bill before parliament and the lords, (roughly equivalent to the house and senate), that included tax incentives to the person or businesses in question, is clearly bribery and corruption and would lead to criminal proceedings at the very least. Since your system is based on ours, I would have hoped it would be the same but it seems not... It just goes to show money makes the world go around, although on a wonky axis and without much hope of democracy. I suppose we just have to be happy with the fact our respective countries have far less corruption in the West than some countries, and hope that is going to mean when we tick the box on a ballot slip we are not voting in a Montebank. You have to live in hope I suppose, probably why I don't vote, and have only ever done so once as a protest vote.

Democracy I think is the worst of all other systems that have been tried as Winston Churchill opined, sadly it's about as good as it gets...

[bobevenson]

Why is that racist? Obama's brand of socialism offers us a future of the sword, starvation and pestilence, just like Africa. Welcome to the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

You missed a horse. And I believe the correct spelling of all four is "Conquest, War, Famine, and Death", though Pestilence makes out cooler and more depressing variation: "War, Famine, Pestilence and Death".

I hope you understand that Bob the Baptist is the only person who has even the slightest understanding of the book of Revelation. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are described in Chapter 6 of Revelation. The rider on the white horse represents the false prophets of the world; the rider on the red horse represents bloodshed; the rider on the black horse represents famine; and the rider on the pale horse represents pestilence. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the Earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the institutional beasts directed by false prophets.

[Blaggard]

Why is that racist? Obama's brand of socialism offers us a future of the sword, starvation and pestilence, just like Africa. Welcome to the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

You missed a horse. And I believe the correct spelling of all four is "Conquest, War, Famine, and Death", though Pestilence makes out cooler and more depressing variation: "War, Famine, Pestilence and Death".

I hope you understand that Bob the Baptist is the only person who has even the slightest understanding of the book of Revelation. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are described in Chapter 6 of Revelation. The rider on the white horse represents the false prophets of the world; the rider on the red horse represents bloodshed; the rider on the black horse represents famine; and the rider on the pale horse represents pestilence. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the Earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the institutional beasts directed by false prophets.

Yeah Bob no offence but you might want to actually watch some media on this subject because I think, and can not know of course you've got a little lost in translation.

Seriously you need to look at the original texts in Greco-Roman, it's not quite how you imagined it was. Although I am sure as protestant believing in KJV you do know the odd little translation they made.


It is of course far more sure and sensible in the original tongues although personally I think it is little more than a rant but... but you do have to look at the original language of St John of Patmos to see what he actually said.

I therefore say that you being the only person who can understand it is fine, but sophistry since you probably haven't read it in its original form spoken by St John himself on a Greek Island, exiled by The Romans.

[bobevenson]

It doesn't matter what the original text said, the only divinely-inspired translation into English is the KJV, authenticated by the mystical sign that the KJV was written by 47 scholars and edited by 12, a reference to the beast line of the Ouzo Cross, which begins at reference point 47 and extends 12 units (see "Notes on the Ouzo Cross" at http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf).

[jackles]

if obama dosnt help the elephants it will be the end of the world for those poor old jumbos.lets hope he speaks up for them before he finishes as being the presedent.so much good could be done with one or two words for the jumbos by obama.help me im jumbo and cant speak for my self so please speak for me.regs jumbo