What is your moral compass?

[Perceiving exists.]

he would be if he said, i know god doesnt exist, and so would he be a poor man if he said, i know god exists.
life exists, get over it, or not.

[bobevenson]

What is my moral compass? The book of Revelation and "The Ouzo Prophecy."

[Perceiving exists.]

What is my moral compass? "To find yourself, [is to] think for yourself"

I will read http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf

[and so i did, but so far i am only convinced of the same likeliness that aliens only go to the u.s.

"Keep the company of those who seek the truth, but run from those who have found it"

if you provide me with other arguments, i will consider them too of course, despite the fact we should not try to convince each other, only our happiness should reflect our ideology and therefore be undeniable.]

[bobevenson]

What is my moral compass? "To find yourself, [is to] think for yourself"

I will read http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf

and so i did, but so far i am only convinced of the same likeliness that aliens only go to the u.s

I'm afraid you weren't able to carefully read the paper with an open mind.

[Perceiving exists.]

What is my moral compass? "To find yourself, [is to] think for yourself"

I will read http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf

and so i did, but so far i am only convinced of the same likeliness that aliens only go to the u.s

I'm afraid you weren't able to carefully read the paper with an open mind.

i have not declined the likeability in its completeness (yet), these are just my first feelings when reading over it
"Keep the company of those who seek the truth, but run from those who have found it"

like i said before, if you provide me with undeniable logic combined with positive feelings, i will think about it, and not only will i take what i hold to be good, but too i will share it with those around me

[bobevenson]

What is my moral compass? "To find yourself, [is to] think for yourself"

I will read http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf

and so i did, but so far i am only convinced of the same likeliness that aliens only go to the u.s

I'm afraid you weren't able to carefully read the paper with an open mind.

i have not declined the likeability in its completeness (yet), these are just my first feelings when reading over it
"Keep the company of those who seek the truth, but run from those who have found it"

like i said before, if you provide me with undeniable logic combined with positive feelings, i will think about it, and not only will i take what i hold to be good, but too i will share it with those around me

Well, you know, that's like asking for the undeniable logic combined with positive feelings in the book of Revelation.

[Perceiving exists.]

Well, you know, that's like asking for the undeniable logic combined with positive feelings in the book of Revelation.

Did you ever consider Jesus' beliefs not only got 'raped' by 'language and translation' but too by 'time', partly for his words were used by the smarter to scare the not so educated??

The idea is good, i cannot disagree, but do you say the Koran is wrong? and do you claim Abraham to be a false prophet? I only wonder, for i do not know.

God doesn't care, who thinks of the most wonderful story
God doesn't care, who builds the highest churches
God doesn't care, who wins the most wars
God doesn't care, what you belief.

Do you think a 'good atheist' will not go to heaven, but a 'bad christian' will?

Just asking, tell me where you disagree and why

[thedoc]

What is my moral compass? "To find yourself, [is to] think for yourself"

I will read http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf

and so i did, but so far i am only convinced of the same likeliness that aliens only go to the u.s

I'm afraid you weren't able to carefully read the paper with an open mind.

Translation, - read it and accept it as true without question, suspend all previous knowledge as false and accept the Ouzo Prophecy as the truth. An 'Open Mind' has nothing in it and is ready to accept whatever BS tells it. Sounds just like Peacegirl.

[thedoc]

Well, you know, that's like asking for the undeniable logic combined with positive feelings in the book of Revelation.

Did you ever consider Jesus' beliefs not only got 'raped' by 'language and translation' but too by 'time', partly for his words were used by the smarter to scare the not so educated??

The idea is good, i cannot disagree, but do you say the Koran is wrong? and do you claim Abraham to be a false prophet? I only wonder, for i do not know.

God doesn't care, who thinks of the most wonderful story
God doesn't care, who builds the highest churches
God doesn't care, who wins the most wars
God doesn't care, what you belief.

Do you think a 'good atheist' will not go to heaven, but a 'bad christian' will?

Just asking, tell me where you disagree and why

Several good points here, God's logic and understanding are not man's logic and understanding. Man's failing is to try and fit God into Man's understanding and definitions. Why should man expect that man's limited understanding could ever encompass God's unlimited understanding.

[Perceiving exists.]

What is my moral compass? "To find yourself, [is to] think for yourself"

I will read http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf

and so i did, but so far i am only convinced of the same likeliness that aliens only go to the u.s

I'm afraid you weren't able to carefully read the paper with an open mind.

Translation, - read it and accept it as true without question, suspend all previous knowledge as false and accept the Ouzo Prophecy as the truth. An 'Open Mind' has nothing in it and is ready to accept whatever BS tells it. Sounds just like Peacegirl.

An open mind doesn't forget the BS-input, but takes it along and looks how it might fit in.
An open mind starts as a null hypothesis, considering all that seems to fit in.

But hey, whats wrong with Peacegirl ?

[thedoc]

But hey, whats wrong with Peacegirl ?

"The Decline and Fall of all Evil" by Seymour Lessans. Peacegirl has spent the last 10+ years hawking it on internet forums, and still can't get anyone to believe any of it.

[Perceiving exists.]

But hey, whats wrong with Peacegirl ?

"The Decline and Fall of all Evil" by Seymour Lessans. Peacegirl has spent the last 10+ years hawking it on internet forums, and still can't get anyone to believe any of it.

The bible has spent the last 2000 years circling around earth, does it really mean anything? I'm not saying it doesn't, but i think the biggest problem in this world is not the problem itself, but the attitude towards it.. the not so open minds.. no one tells me, i'm wrong for thinking our world is need of saving very bad, but they all do tell me, they dont believe anymore. :/

btw, if i start selling my opinions etc for money, it instantly loses its value, thats why i dont like those selling their ideas.
good ideas get rewarded by them selves, for they dont need to be sold to be profitable.

[Blaggard]

But hey, whats wrong with Peacegirl ?

"The Decline and Fall of all Evil" by Seymour Lessans. Peacegirl has spent the last 10+ years hawking it on internet forums, and still can't get anyone to believe any of it.

Man it's a small world I have seen Peacegirl, she/he is all over the map but in philosophy forums mostly, but strays into the science forums too although not for very long which is not really that surprising. :S

But hey, whats wrong with Peacegirl ?

"The Decline and Fall of all Evil" by Seymour Lessans. Peacegirl has spent the last 10+ years hawking it on internet forums, and still can't get anyone to believe any of it.

The bible has spent the last 2000 years circling around earth, does it really mean anything? I'm not saying it doesn't, but i think the biggest problem in this world is not the problem itself, but the attitude towards it.. the not so open minds.. no one tells me, i'm wrong for thinking our world is need of saving very bad, but they all do tell me, they dont believe anymore. :/

btw, if i start selling my opinions etc for money, it instantly loses its value, thats why i dont like those selling their ideas.
good ideas get rewarded by them selves, for they dont need to be sold to be profitable.

What it means is history is a lot of wank, and a little truth, fishing out the truth is hard considering the victors write the bullshit, history is a hard subject you have to take 20 sources and try and decide which of them is the least inaccurate, and you don't often get a break from the archaeologists.

Take the Bible, there's no evidence that Jeremiah committed a genocide on the Philistines, in fact the archaeology says they took a few cities and left most intact merely absorbing much of Palestine into their empire, and yet Jeremiah claims every man woman and child was killed in the 21 cities of AI. There seems to be a lot of evidence of Egyptians taking many nations into slavery all of which appear in their text, except the Jews who are never mentioned. The walls of Jericho could not have existed in the time period where they were blown down, in fact it never had walls anywhere near the supposed biblical reference and in fact only had them 500 years or so either side of the magical time. And the list goes on believe me the Bible is one long list of whoppers.

And it's not just the Bible either have you ever read Heroditus: Histories from the classical/ancient period, some of the claims he makes actually invoke Satyrs a mythical beast. And he claims the Persian army numbered 1 million, even though no such army could ever be sustained in ancient times. He has all sorts of really odd rituals associated with cultures which could not possibly of been true too. It seems the only time he was not agrandizing the Greeks beyond their actual accomplishment is when he talked about their losses.

Over time history becomes myth, myth becomes legend and legend becomes bullshit. It's probably easier to determine human history as it actually happened the further back we go with a ouija board than with any sort of rigiour. :S

[Perceiving exists.]

Accept your fears and regrets. You cannot abandon them, they only can abandon you.

"He who lives in the past is already dead, he who lives in the future has not lived yet, only he who lives in the present, is truly alive."

[thedoc]

It's funny how man's accomplishments that seem like so much are really so little.

Ozymandias

"I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear --
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
Percy Bysshe Shelley