Having returned from the turn of the Fourth Century B.C. to the turn of the Twenty-First A.D., Socrates has eagerly signed on as a Philosophy Now columnist so that he may continue to carry out his divinely-inspired dialogic mission.
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Dear Socrates
Re: Dear Socrates
Nothing can exist outside of space and time, this is babble.Philosophy Now wrote: If outside of space and time, then what is stopping the spirit from entering into any period of time?
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Re: Dear Socrates
Care to say how?HexHammer wrote:Outdated nonsens, answerd in modern quantum science.
Re: Dear Socrates
Once a thing no longer exists, or becomes spirit, where does it go? If outside of space and time, then what is stopping the spirit from entering into any period of time?
Nothing can exist outside of space and time, that in itself is pure nonsense.Arising_uk wrote:Care to say how?HexHammer wrote:Outdated nonsens, answerd in modern quantum science.
It either turns to energy, fine particles or whatever, but it doesn't stop to exist. That would violate basic Newtonian RT. The real question is if information is kept, or destroyed.
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Re: Dear Socrates
Which is exactly what Neo-Socrates said and he used just logic.HexHammer wrote:... Nothing can exist outside of space and time, that in itself is pure nonsense.
What's "Newtonian RT"?It either turns to energy, fine particles or whatever, but it doesn't stop to exist. That would violate basic Newtonian RT. The real question is if information is kept, or destroyed.
What's "energy"?
What's "whatever"?
Are you claiming information as a substance?
Re: Dear Socrates
- no?Arising_uk wrote:Which is exactly what Neo-Socrates said and he used just logic.HexHammer wrote:... Nothing can exist outside of space and time, that in itself is pure nonsense.What's "Newtonian RT"?It either turns to energy, fine particles or whatever, but it doesn't stop to exist. That would violate basic Newtonian RT. The real question is if information is kept, or destroyed.
What's "energy"?
What's "whatever"?
Are you claiming information as a substance?
- read some quantum science, not in the mood to explain it.
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Re: Dear Socrates
Doubt you could, as to understand such things is to be able to do the Maths.HexHammer wrote:...
- no?
- read some quantum science, not in the mood to explain it.
Last thing I read about such stuff was that the problem with 'information' being 'destroyed' in QM is more to do with the Maths being used, so information is 'lost' when 'we' use complex numbers rather than the real numbers. Use real numbers and no loss but strange ontological and metaphysical entities have to be assumed, i.e. the u-bit.
You didn't answer these?
What's "Newtonian RT"?
What's "energy"?
What's "whatever"?