The Love of Sophia...

[Bill Wiltrack]

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The word "philosophy" comes from the Greek φιλοσοφία (philosophia), which literally means "love of wisdom."



I know of no better example of the display of the pure love of wisdom than the Philosophy Now Forum.



In Ancient Greece, the sophists were a category of teachers who specialized in using the tools of philosophy and rhetoric for the purpose of teaching aretê — excellence, or virtue. For those Hellenistic
Greeks Sophia was the personification of wisdom.



Throughout the history of man lovers of wisdom emerge through all walks of life to seek nothing more than the gaze of Sophia.

True philosophers must continually touch the moment, sense their reality, and interpret what they think and feel.



Today's media demands distilled thought the type of thoughts or post that are found on the Philosophy Now Forum.


True philosophers must test their perceptions, thoughts, and theories. There is no better testing ground than the most legitimate philosophy forum on the planet; the Philosophy Now Forum.

Today there is no better published example and definition of the word philosopher above that of the active members of the Philosophy Now Forum.



Each and every active member, to varying degrees literates their perception of the love of wisdom for our entire humanity to see. And we do it, collectively, solely, for the love of wisdom.



We bow our head to no one. Spit your best and back it up. No one here is a face, we are just a manifested spirit.


Each verbalization is an untruth. Yet untruth, when understood, can be used as a tool, a tool to point to a greater truth. Each greater truth unlocking a new perception, each perception tested, toned & tooled.



We don't publish our love of wisdom for money. Fortune or fame is not our goal. What is happening now at the Philosophy Now Forum has never happened within the history of man. This happening is beyond unusual.



The Philosophy Now Forum is an intellectual snapshot taken by a naked spirit.



Our forum is virtually limitless. The audience we post to is mankind, the entirety of mankind. There is no entrance fee. But this site comes with a price. You leave your accolades, degrees, and pride at the door.

We speak to the audience of mankind.





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The Philosophy Now Forum is the personification of modern philosophers expressing the most important philosophies that mankind has ever heard. Free. Everyday. Without question or pretense.

Just philosophy; pure, unadulterated philosophy.





Sophia speaks through man. Sophia speaks unchained. Sophia speaks just as easily through the alcoholic as through the academic.









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[Ginkgo]

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In Ancient Greece, the sophists were a category of teachers who specialized in using the tools of philosophy and rhetoric for the purpose of teaching aretê — excellence, or virtue. For those Hellenistic
Greeks Sophia was the personification of wisdom.

Bill, I not sure where you got this information but it's not completely correct. In fact many sophists used their skill of rhetoric for devious purposes.

[uwot]

Here's a bit from Aristophanes' The Clouds. http://classics.mit.edu/Aristophanes/clouds.html Even the ancient Greeks weren't unqualified in their appraisal of sophists.


STREPSIADES
Will you obey me ever so little?

PHIDIPPIDES
By Bacchus, I will obey you.

STREPSIADES
Very well then! Look this way. Do you see that little door and that little house?

PHIDIPPIDES
Yes, father. But what are you driving at?

STREPSIADES
That is the Thoughtery of wise souls. There they prove that we are coals enclosed on all sides under a vast snuffer, which is the sky. If well paid, these men also teach one how to gain law-suits, whether they be just or not.

PHIDIPPIDES
What do they call themselves?

STREPSIADES
I do not know exactly, but they are deep thinkers and most admirable people.

PHIDIPPIDES
Bah! the wretches! I know them; you mean those quacks with pale faces, those barefoot fellows, such as that miserable Socrates and Chaerephon?

STREPSIADES
Silence! say nothing foolish! If you desire your father not to die of hunger, join their company and let your horses go.

PHIDIPPIDES
No, by Bacchus! even though you gave me the pheasants that Leogoras raises.

STREPSIADES
Oh! my beloved son, I beseech you, go and follow their teachings.

PHIDIPPIDES
And what is it I should learn?

STREPSIADES
It seems they have two courses of reasoning, the true and the false, and that, thanks to the false, the worst law-suits can be gained. If then you learn this science, which is false, I shall not have to pay an obolus of all the debts I have contracted on your account.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I'm not worried about sophists.


The post is mine.

If you need information I guess you can find it. To support or undermine any literal subject.





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[WanderingLands]

You've looked into Gnosticism, am I correct?

[Bill Wiltrack]

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[Ginkgo]

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I'm not worried about sophists.


The post is mine.

If you need information I guess you can find it. To support or undermine any literal subject.





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Yes, I realize the post is yours. Just because you say something doesn't make it true-anymore then me something makes it true. So yes, you can find information to support or reject a thesis.The finding of information to support or reject is the whole idea.

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Yes, I understand what a Sophist is. - I don't think I addressed the issue but if I would have, I would in no way deny that, In fact many sophists used their skill of rhetoric for devious purposes. We do live in a multidimensional continuum.


That premise only strengthens my thread, The Love of Sophia.


Thank you for the finding of information to support the whole idea.


Thank you for participating in this thread and welcome to the PhilosophyNow Forums!





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That premise only strengthens my thread, The Love of Sophia.


Thank you for the finding of information to support the whole idea.


Thank you for participating in this thread and welcome to the PhilosophyNow Forums![/size]

Bill, I hope you find your Sophia where ever she may be.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Thank you.


And I hope you find whatever it is your heart calls to.


For me, I am certain my Sophia exists inside of me. Just a few millimeters to the right; my non-linear self.


That is where god and miracles exist.

Thank you. And thank you for responding to this thread.






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