We still have a long way to go...

[thedoc]

This is unrelated but speaking of Stanley Kubrik is it true that he helped create the fake trip to the moon by filming the scenes in the studio? Or is it just another conspiracy theory?
Thanks

Yep.

[R2D2]

Thanks

[Blaggard]

Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw

This might help.

[R2D2]

Blaggard~ this is a parody to the moon landing hoax...so you think its a conspiracy theory with no truth?

Do you buy into any conspiracy....just curious?

[Blaggard]

Blaggard~ this is a parody to the moon landing hoax...so you think its a conspiracy theory with no truth?

Do you buy into any conspiracy....just curious?

Not really I am sure conspiracies go on but most of the ones that your read about on Illuminati.com are little more than fanciful.

Let's just say that people with too much time on their hands get caught up in a sort of feedback loop with other people with too much time on their hands and the next thing you know WTC7 was done by the Martians.

World Trade Centre 7 btw. The one they claim was blown up by the CIA or, meh I lost track at WTC9, it's hard to keep up with the loonies.

The Inebriati however are very real... See my thread on The Knights Tipler, it's a real eye opener and no mistake!

REal conspiracy theories that are true, in Vietnam the CIA ran drugs to fund the war, The contras were supplied with arms by the US
government, Nicaragua was in fact invaded and a coup d'etat really happened, but it wasn't because they had ties to drug cartels. Operation Ajax resulted in a democratic Iran being overthrown by CIA operatives in response by a plea by what is now British Petroleum who was about to lose oil concessions; these'll make the front page news and are undoubtedly part of history. Oliver North will swear blind he can tell no lie, and Reagan will deny everything. But the real far out ones like area 51, I don't really buy them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Irani ... 7%C3%A9tat

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup, was the overthrow of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh and his cabinet on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the United Kingdom (under the name 'Operation Boot') and the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project).[3][4][5][6]

Mossadegh had sought to reduce the semi-absolute role of the Shah granted by the Constitution of 1906, thus making Iran a full democracy, and to nationalize the Iranian oil industry, consisting of vast oil reserves and the Abadan Refinery, both owned by the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, a British corporation (now BP).[7][8][9] A military government under General Fazlollah Zahedi was formed which allowed Mohammad-Rezā Shāh Pahlavi, the Shah of Iran (Persian for an Iranian king),[9] to effectively rule the country as an absolute monarch according to the constitution. He relied heavily on United States support to hold on to power until his own overthrow in February 1979.[7][8][9][10] In August 2013 the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) admitted that it was involved in both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda.[11][12] The CIA is quoted acknowledging the coup was carried out "under CIA direction" and "as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government." [13]

In 1951, Iran's oil industry was nationalized with near-unanimous support of Iran's parliament in a bill introduced by Mossadegh who led the nationalist party the National Front. Iran's oil had been controlled by the British-owned AIOC.[14] Popular discontent with the AIOC began in the late 1940s: a large segment of Iran's public and a number of politicians saw the company as exploitative and a central tool of continued British imperialism in Iran.[7][15] Despite Mosaddegh's popular support, Britain was unwilling to negotiate on its single most valuable foreign asset, and instigated a worldwide boycott of Iranian oil to pressure Iran economically.[16] Initially, Britain mobilized its military to seize control of the Abadan oil refinery, then the world's largest, but Prime Minister Clement Attlee opted instead to tighten the economic boycott[17] while using Iranian agents to undermine Mosaddegh's government.[18] With a change to more conservative governments in both Britain and the United States, Winston Churchill and the Eisenhower administration decided to overthrow Iran's government though the predecessor Truman administration had opposed a coup.[19] Classified documents show British intelligence officials played a pivotal role in initiating and planning the coup, and that AIOC contributed $25,000 towards the expense of bribing officials.[20]

Britain and the U.S. selected Fazlollah Zahedi to be the prime minister of a military government that was to replace Mosaddegh as premier. Subsequently, a royal decree dismissing Mosaddegh and appointing Zahedi was drawn up by the coup plotters and signed by the Shah. The Central Intelligence Agency had successfully pressured the weak monarch to participate in the coup, while bribing street thugs, clergy, politicians and Iranian army officers to take part in a propaganda campaign against Mosaddegh and his government.[21] At first, the coup appeared to be a failure when on the night of 15–16 August, Imperial Guard Colonel Nematollah Nassiri was arrested while attempting to arrest Mosaddegh. The Shah fled the country the next day. On 19 August, a pro-Shah mob paid by the CIA, marched on Mosaddegh's residence.[22] According to the CIA's declassified documents and records, some of the most feared mobsters in Tehran were hired by the CIA to stage pro-Shah riots on 19 August. Other CIA-paid men were brought into Tehran in buses and trucks, and took over the streets of the city.[23] Between 300[1] and 800 people were killed because of the conflict.[2] Mosaddegh was arrested, tried and convicted of treason by the Shah's military court. On 21 December 1953, he was sentenced to three years in jail, then placed under house arrest for the remainder of his life.[24][25][26] Other Mosaddegh supporters were imprisoned, and several received the death penalty.[9]

After the coup, the Shah ruled as an absolute monarch for the next 26 years (under what he called a "guided democracy")[8][9] while significantly modernizing the country using oil revenue, until he was overthrown in the Iranian Revolution in 1979.[8][9][27] The tangible benefits the United States reaped from overthrowing Iran's elected government included a share of Iran's oil wealth[28][clarification needed] and the prevention of the possibility that the Iranian government might align itself with the Soviet Union, although the latter motivation produces controversy among historians. Washington continually supplied arms to the increasingly unpopular Shah and the CIA-trained SAVAK, his repressive secret police force;[9] however by the 1979 revolution, his increasingly independent policies resulted in his effective abandonment by his American allies, hastening his downfall.[29] The coup is widely believed to have significantly contributed to anti-American sentiment in Iran and the Middle East. The 1979 revolution deposed the Shah and replaced the pro-Western absolute monarchy with the largely anti-Western authoritarian theocracy.[30][31]

It becomes ironic when you realise the US built the Iranian Nuclear reactors in the days of the Shah, and Europe supplied them with enrichment technology more recently, to cease their reliance on using very valuable oil reserves for power stations. Politics is a messy business, the side who can talk the most shit often wins.

We really do have a very long way to go...

[R2D2]

Thank you Blaggard very interesting...In my opinion it supports the motive for the 911 and why so many people support the conspiracy theory. The govt is obviously capable and willing to do anything to further their agenda.

[Blaggard]

Thank you Blaggard very interesting...In my opinion it supports the motive for the 911 and why so many people support the conspiracy theory. The govt is obviously capable and willing to do anything to further their agenda.

Yeah but a government who is that competent that they can fabricate all this and still leave everyone in the dark, no offence but most governments are too busy trying to garner valuable resources and keep their own shit together to really be some Illuminatiesque arbiter of human history. As I say watch my Knights Tipler thread, it does have some pretty pertinent info on it, albeit in the name of comedy.

I'll buy that security agencies are out there fucking with world politics but I draw the line at the Juice done 911. Juice = Jews btw.


If an alien did come down in Roswell it is more likely Futurama captured it best, than some tin foil hat wearing nut on the internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw6BeQEHTfA

[R2D2]

Thank you I will watch it....and I just read your post about the slave trade...more good info

[Blaggard]

Thank you I will watch it....and I just read your post about the slave trade...more good info

I'm a colossal nerd, you'll get used to it.

[R2D2]