Trolling and the morality of bullying on the internet.

[Blaggard]

Er hold on I was making a comment on what you said, the context is obvious, maybe you should read what I said again, you wont of course but you probably should.

ok well since you need it in black and white you said:

No, u'r by far not the only one who has gone all crybaby on me.

I said

I've never gone cry baby on you so...

The rest was clearly a response to your comments about AOE:AOK.

When I beat 3 n00bs in Age of Kings, they accuse me either of cheating or being pro, and they refuse to believe that I'm only a 3/10, and I call them n00bs who play utterly bad, then they go all ballistic.

This part is related to

People who use the terms pro just piss me off, so what you are saying is someone who has too much spare time and lives in his mothers basement is very good at the game therefore is a pro. Hmmm I beg to differ, a pro nerd maybe.

Also people who when they lose go all over the chat rooms claiming how n00b some x was and that he cheated and you just think dude: grow up it's a game. If someone turns up with tanks in Age of Kings though chances are they cheated.

I've seen it all though people who deliberately lag to exploit the game timer, people who hack the game so they can't lose, real numb nut losers basically.

I must admit to taking a sort of perverse delight in pwn wars though when x claims to be sooooo much better than y 'cause he kicked his ass. But that is slightly different. It's almost always kids who are immature but I've seen people in there 20s lose it because they lost, which is sad, or someone ragequits who you know is in reality 56 years old, and you think dude, show some decorum your meant to be mature, what sort of example is that to set! :S

This part, I don't get the issue?

Is that more easy to understand because I can explain it further if you need me to?

No, because you are babbeling. You say thing unrelating to what I said.

You don't even comprehend what I said, instead you try to make 1 long ad hom.

Dude stop trolling you're just making my point for me.

Ad hominem. wut?

[HexHammer]

When I beat 3 n00bs in Age of Kings, they accuse me either of cheating or being pro, and they refuse to believe that I'm only a 3/10, and I call them n00bs who play utterly bad, then they go all ballistic.

People who use the terms pro just piss me off, so what you are saying is someone who has too much spare time and lives in his mothers basement is very good at the game therefore is a pro. Hmmm I beg to differ, a pro nerd maybe.

You make a direct response to my claim, but your response is pure nonsens, it's not hitting the nail on the head, at all.

You try to insult, but instead ending up being pure babble and nonsense.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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This thread is so much easier to comprehend if you understand the original poster's terminology.


Bully = Someone who disagrees with the original poster.


Troll = Someone who disagrees with the original poster.


So basically, anyone who does not agree with the original poster is wrong...AND a bully...and possibly a troll.






The original poster wants to rule the world!





And she MUST BE STOPPED!






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[Ginkgo]

Bill,

That is not what the OP means. They are talking about the literal interpretation of bullying and intimidation. In other words, how it is often played out by some people.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I honestly, and respectfully, believe you are off the mark.


The intellect works that way.


We can't help it.




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[Blaggard]

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I honestly, and respectfully, believe you are off the mark.


The intellect works that way.


We can't help it.




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Nah he was right. It wasn't my intent and you have misinterpreted my intent. But hey ho such is life, and I don't judge you for it.

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[Bill Wiltrack]

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...the intellect works that way.




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[Ginkgo]

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I honestly, and respectfully, believe you are off the mark.


The intellect works that way.


We can't help it.







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That's ok Bill. Feel free to disagree with me as often as you like. No doubt I will do likewise.

As you point out, the intellect works that way. Or is it the case that some intellects work that way?

[Bill Wiltrack]

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The intellect functions in opposites.


Black/white, up/down, left/right, agree/disagree, right/wrong, and so forth.


It is the slowest of all human functions. Which makes it the easiest to perceive. But it is a bull in a China shoppe of reality.


...a bull that that is able to conceive itself exclusive against all other bulls...



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[Blaggard]

I think that's actually bull shit.

The intellect functions in a spectrum not in opposites.

Something might be black and something might be white but more often there are shades of grey particularly when it comes to issues of morality.

Now if we can get back to is bullying on the internet morally wrong etc I would appreciate it.

[henry quirk]

"is bullying on the internet morally wrong(?)"

No.

It's also not 'morally wrong' face-to-face.

Certainly: being bullied is -- in the least -- uncomfortable and -- in the most -- humiliating.

My suggestion: defend yourself.

If Jack (or, Jaclyn) Bullyhead comes at you (on the net, face-to-face) defend yourself.

Relying on a third party (police, moderators) makes you indebted (and really doesn't solve the problem [which is not the bully]).

[Blaggard]

Well it is illegal in the UK and many other countries on the internet or face to face, we can at least say that bullying or intimidation is in terms of practical ethics forbidden, I think that also means society considers it wrong. I think the bully is the problem as well or at least whatever psychological malfunction makes them want to intimidate or hurt others for their own pleasure, which is also their fault, you can't blame society for everything some people are born pyschopathic for example it is a congenital defect that 1% of the population suffer from for example, not that that means they are necessarily going to be horrible people but it does make it much more likely. There's a famous case of a kid with Aspergers (high functioning autism) over here who went on to a famillies homage site to a daughter who had comitted suicide and spent months basically taunting them and saying their daughter was going to hell etc and much worse, he was sentenced to 6 months in prison. In this case I think we can clearly say the bully is the problem and his behaviour even though prompted by an inability to read emotion in others is not an excuse.

Also in the case of internet bullies since they are free to make as many accounts as they like it's not always that easy to ignore abuse, particularly when it's a gang of idiots. I am sure we've all heard about Facebooks run in with the law over its security policies, trolling policies etc.

However I think defend yourself is good advice, but harder to take when the bully in question is nearly 7 ft tall and basically has 200lbs on you. Not everyone is the Karate Kid.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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[Blaggard]

What are you trying to say Bill, I don't get it?

Sometimes just posting some nonsense gif is about as useful as posting the toilet paper I just wiped my ass on, so you might want to explain when you post some useless gif that explains nothing, what sort of toilet paper you were using at least? Because and excuse the pun no one will give a shit otherwise...

[Bill Wiltrack]

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That's part of the beauty of using images.

The interpretation is up to you. So, in a very real way, you get it




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