Why there can't be peace in this era

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Why there can't be peace in this era

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The reason why the world cannot have peace is because of globalization. Globalization, which is mainly perpetrated by the United States and the elites who control the established global economy, has caused a lot of damage, not only here in America, but everywhere in the world. Globalization in the domestic sphere is causing shipping of jobs overseas, importing too much of foreign goods (mainly China and elsewhere, where there's unjust sweatshops); both of which has contributed to unemployment in America. In the global sphere, it enables companies like Monsanto, Microsoft, fast food chains, clothing chains, etc. to force their products on other countries (Africa, Asia, South America, and elsewhere), and enables slavery (sweatshops and factories) over those lands. It's also connected to war; the main resource that power up economies such as that of the United States and the Western World is oil. That's why there are wars in the Middle East and parts of Africa. The Diamond Trade and Opium Trades of the past are also connected, as well.

Will there be peace in the future? Maybe. But as of now, it can get worse. However, as an individual, one must not base their happiness off of the political/social/economic climate. Life is about living, and you can only do so much to try an make the world a better place. However, you can make unlimited happiness inside yourself.

That last paragraph was just a positive outlook in a world of negativity.
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Relax.

Don't panic.

We are here. :wink:

Everything is going to plan.

I am called Hermes Trismegistus!
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Brit Dems wrote:Relax.

Don't panic.

We are here. :wink:

Everything is going to plan.

I am called Hermes Trismegistus!
Nice entry, here.
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WanderingLands wrote:
Brit Dems wrote:Relax.

Don't panic.

We are here. :wink:

Everything is going to plan.

I am called Hermes Trismegistus!
Nice entry, here.

Who are the "elites" that you wrote about?

What do they look like?

Where are they based?
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Brit Dems wrote:Relax.

Don't panic.

We are here. :wink:

Everything is going to plan.

I am called Hermes Trismegistus!
This reminds me of something... relax people, don't panic the inebriati are on the case, swaying gently from side to side and running all the major events in your pitifully small existence since day one, ensuring everything is smashing, aside from Microsoft but then they are not gods.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zj50DmBFp0
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Who are the "elites" that you wrote about?

What do they look like?
This part, I happen to know.
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new ... gap-widens
Where are they based?
Anywhere they want to be: they own half the world - and you can be damn sure their many homes are in the most hospitable parts of the habitable world.

WanderingLands,
you forgot arms dealing among the most profitable rackets, both legal and illegal. Nobody who makes that kind of profit is going to give it up, just to save human lives, any more than Shell will ever stop drilling and spilling, just to save the ocean.

...try to leave it a little better than you found it spread a little sunshine ... yada yada ... :) :) :) :)
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WanderingLands wrote:Globalization in the domestic sphere is causing shipping of jobs overseas, importing too much of foreign goods (mainly China and elsewhere, where there's unjust sweatshops); both of which has contributed to unemployment in America.
That statement alone indicates you have absolutely no understanding whatsoever of economics.
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bobevenson wrote:
WanderingLands wrote:Globalization in the domestic sphere is causing shipping of jobs overseas, importing too much of foreign goods (mainly China and elsewhere, where there's unjust sweatshops); both of which has contributed to unemployment in America.
That statement alone indicates you have absolutely no understanding whatsoever of economics.
I may not know too much about economics, but I do know that Globalization is bringing no good to the world.
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There is no globalization. It's a euphemism for "We bought the whole frickin' ballgame and castrated all the umpires."
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Humpty Dumpty talks.
The importance of words.

http://www.channel4.com/news/

http://blogs.channel4.com/lindsey-hilsu ... syria/3323

Lindsey Hilsum:
...The argument over Geneva I is, in itself, an interesting example of what could be called Humpty Dumpty diplomacy, where – as the Alice in Wonderland character said, “words mean what I want them to mean”. The Americans and the British say that the Geneva I communique specifies that President Assad must step down. Well, I’ve read it and I see no such stipulation. It says there must be a “transitional governing body”. Of course it doesn’t say Assad must step down! If it did, the Russians wouldn’t have signed. The only reason that tomorrow’s talks, dubbed Geneva II (even though they start in Montreux), are happening is because Russia, which supports President Assad, has a different interpretation of the meaning of “transitional governing body”. Sometimes a diplomatic deal is a whole row of Humpty Dumpties sitting on a wall saying the words mean what they want them to mean. - See more at: http://blogs.channel4.com/lindsey-hilsu ... 5ZaiL.dpuf
Philosophy: a whole row of Humpty Dumpties.

What does 'globalisation' mean?

Complex aspects; positive and negative.

Parts of the world burn while some philosophers fumble over a 'Grand Ethical Code'...
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WanderingLands wrote:
bobevenson wrote:
WanderingLands wrote:Globalization in the domestic sphere is causing shipping of jobs overseas, importing too much of foreign goods (mainly China and elsewhere, where there's unjust sweatshops); both of which has contributed to unemployment in America.
That statement alone indicates you have absolutely no understanding whatsoever of economics.
I may not know too much about economics, but I do know that Globalization is bringing no good to the world.
Just the opposite, my friend, a global economy works to everyone's benefit.
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Aye globalisation would mean the world was involved but the fact is it's a minority of powerful countries who control all the best trade deals and anyone who tries to break up this monopoly is doomed to fail, not really globalization more an oligarchy of economic powers abusing the systems to maintain control of all favourable trade. Still that's bad capitalism for you. They will learn one day that to create a peaceful world equity is best, in my lifetime no, and until large powers stop abusing smaller less powerful countries in their own self interest to keep themselves on top nothing will change.
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What does 'globalisation' mean?
In the present context and in economic parlance generally, it means de-regulated (though not unrestricted) international trade among the private banking and business interests.
Complex aspects; positive and negative.
Positive: increased communication among disparate peoples; information; sometimes understanding and sympathy.
If an international trade were to be orchestrated by UN or other benevolent agencies, insuring that supplies flowed from areas of surplus to areas of shortage; if man- and machine-power were deployed in humanitarian efforts under the auspices of non-partisan global authority.... If! But that is the case only in the most dire disasters, and even then, their efforts are impeded by rival religious and political, military and commercial interests.

Negative: the disparity of income, resource and wealth distribution, of power and control, increases geometrically; is not halted or appreciably retarded by national frontiers. Unsound economic policies, raptor politics, mad ideologies spread like influenza virus. Influenza virus spreads like oil spills. Oil spills spread like crap political theories. Everywhere.
Parts of the world burn while some philosophers fumble over a 'Grand Ethical Code'...
Pine beetles are chewing on the west coast, while a young Black man in New York shaves his head.
It's snowing in Ontario, while North Carolina children eat yogurt cups. With spoons!
Jamaican soccer fans shout, while British tabloids talk about the queen.

(In the room the women come and go,
Talking of Michaelangelo.)
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You can't control the policies of other countries, but the U.S. government in its own best interest should immediately scrap all of its trade agreements, eliminate tariffs and import restrictions of any kind; and if a country like China wants to dump products on the American market at less than production costs, or manipulate its currency to boost exports, we should send them a thank-you card to encourage them to continue these irrational policies; it doesn't matter whether they reciprocate or totally ban the import of U.S. products. Economics is not a two-way street, it's a one-way street in the sense that it doesn't matter what other countries do; their policies should have absolutely no bearing on U.S. policy.
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WL's OP:
The reason why the world cannot have peace is because of globalization.
I doubt there has ever been peace in the world.
I doubt that the world will ever know peace.
Recent globalisation is not the cause of war. Humans are.

WL:
Will there be peace in the future? Maybe. But as of now, it can get worse. However, as an individual, one must not base their happiness off of the political/social/economic climate. Life is about living, and you can only do so much to try an make the world a better place. However, you can make unlimited happiness inside yourself.

That last paragraph was just a positive outlook in a world of negativity.
Glad of the positivity. However, it sounds a bit prescriptive, almost based on some ethical theory or other...some value system. I agree that you can only do so much; however, how do you propose to 'make unlimited unhappiness inside yourself'?
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