Vicariously? One of the qualities I attribute to God is empathy, so if you have experienced that particular "Pleasure", God has experienced it as well.
There is no such thing as literal vicarious experiencing. And empathizing with somebody doesn't even come CLOSE to experiencing the same thing.
So, basically, to be omnipotent god would also have to know how does it feel to get ass-raped by a horse.
Ah. Causal fallacy. Coincidence is not causality. The fact that we "have" DNA, or even the fact that when we have a particular thought certain chemicals are detectible, does not show that DNA or chemicals "cause" anything. They might be symptoms or manifestations of a third thing that is the *true* cause of a brain event.
ROFL. That's right. Let's ignore all scientific facts and stick to fallacious, obsolete philosophies. And ignore them sometimes too, if they dare to oppose our religious viewpoints. IKR? Don't like certain scientific discoveries because they completely disprove ridiculous religious concepts such as soul and heaven? Fine, feel free to ignore them cause science is unreliable. However, if you find something in science that can be interpreted to at least remotely support your views, better cherry pick it and take it completely out of context and be sure to emphasize how reliable science is.
FUCK psychology and biology of brain overall. They dare to disprove the viewpoints of ancient bronze age goat herders. Whenever somebody is injected with dopamine they have a higher blood pressure and heart rate. What an odd coincidence, right? Everybody injected with estrogen becomes more feminine. That coincidence. A person injures a part of the brain which those evil, lying scientists say that is affiliated with storing memories and that person gets an amnesia. Such coincidence. Must be demon magic, trying to turn as away from sweet lawd Jesus. A person injures a part of the brain responsible for hearing and they can't hear anymore!
Seriously now, if you're just going to ignore reality and scientific facts there is no basis for rational, meaningless discussion.
Another good question: but there's an answer. Both sides of the issue recognize that whatever would justify such a thing, it would have to be an overriding "good" known to God. The Atheists say, "No such good could possibly exist." Theists say, "I think it could, and I might even know what it is." It might be the good of genuine choice.
What would be so "good" about genuine choice? Just this: that it is a necessary condition for genuine relationship. You cannot enter into a reciprocal relationship of love with someone who has no choice in the matter.
Why don't we give all the murderers, rapists etc. free will then? Why is it that us humans realize that if somebody is evil we can't let them do harm to others while god is so immoral to actually let them? It follows then that us humans are more moral than god.
Should we let all the criminals out of the prisons then and just let them do whatever they want cause it's their "free will" and cause it's better for someone to have genuine choice?
If somebody attacked you and your family would you try to stop that person or would you say "sure, go ahead, kill all of us if it's your free will cause I can't intervene". I assume not and I even dare to assume that you would try to stop that person.
Also, you failed to address my example with math, physics and philosophy.
I would not be you for all the world. And I'm deadly serious about that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iClejS8vWjo
Good thing that your concept of a supposedly good god who is also incredibly evil is a logical impossibility and he doesn't exist
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A phrase carved into the wall during WW2 by a Jewish prisoner in a concentration camp: "If there is a god, he will have to beg my forgiveness".
