rome

[Ginkgo]

minnor details ginkgo and you know it.

Yes, you're right. What is one centrism or another between friends.

[Kurt]

If Rome never became consumed by Christianity. By now we could have a truly democratic society, the planets natural environment would still be intact, there would have been less wars and we would be more advanced both socially and scientifically.
With historians and philosophers lamenting about what would have happened if we went down the Christian "Roman Catholic" path. Just a thought, as just because this is the direction society ended up taking does not mean it was the best outcome. Funny how small localised events in history can really have negative compound effects down the track.

[jackles]

well you have got the right idea here kurt as far as the small localised event having such an enormouse impact as for the rest i hearterly disagree.but your spot on with what i am saying about the importants of rome and its influence its like atide comming in unoticably slowly.

[Kurt]

Are you saying that the new Roman Empire with a Pope as it's head had very little to do with the power plays in the region and restricting the advancement of knowledge for hundreds of years.

[jackles]

what you have said is true kurt but of all human activity is political.politics is a roman word.but the roman system did a good job of getting the teachings of jesus around the world.so now we have a planitary spiritual system in place woven irrevicalaby into planitary civilisation.rome did its job in the nature of human activities.

[Kurt]

Ok, in that case Napoleon is a historical hero as he took away much of the power of the Catholic Church and the then royal families of Europe. This in turn allowing our society to move forward and free from dogma. I would hate to think where we would be if Napoleon did not change the European political map.

[jackles]

yes yet again you are right.a personality like napoleon is a representation of karma so that two wrongs meet to make a righter out come.karma is ingnorance relative to an absolute .so battles are fought by two oppossing ignorances relative to an absolute.the absolute is the teachings of jesus.so historic karma will follow through to that absolute.rome is the karmic hoste for that karma to be played out in.

[Kurt]

yes yet again you are right.a personality like napoleon is a representation of karma so that two wrongs meet to make a righter out come.karma is ingnorance relative to an absolute .so battles are fought by two oppossing ignorances relative to an absolute.the absolute is the teachings of jesus.so historic karma will follow through to that absolute.rome is the karmic hoste for that karma to be played out in.

If you are right I fear that the next karmic representation to reach an absolute will have to be both universal and painful to make a difference.

[jackles]

it might be peacful like this forum and forums like it.

[Arising_uk]

the western world is a modern version of the roman system.the system that got to north and south poles and the moon rome with christian universal knowledge.a system befitting a planet orbitting a sun .

Nah! The system that did this was the protestant industrial revolution instigated by the British Empire. Rome's Catholicism was an obstruction until its tenet of absolute authority was challenged.

[jackles]

when i talk of rome i dont mean roman catholic as an item.roman catholic or proistant are semi systems for spreading the teachings of jesus.the roman catholic or what ever church is important only because it spreads jesus teachings of its self it has no importants.the british empire and the industrial revolution was essentially neo roman.cant see why you cant see that.the goverment systems that allowed the industrial revolution to take place where roman.universitys such as oxford and cambridge are roman.roman doesnt mean romancatholic.jesus teachings are the datum for world and roman karma.

[jackles]

the karma of the christian roman system is world karma relative to the universe.

[Hobbes' Choice]

the karma of the christian roman system is world karma relative to the universe.

Did you borrow that brain or are you running it in for the local village idiot?

The Catholic Church is a small insignificant blip in the history of humanity, humanity little more than a hint of biological scum on a massive earth which is an insignificant planet on an insignificant solar system, in an unfashionable arm of a minor galaxy amongst billions of galaxies of billions of stars.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Arising is right about Protestantism.

Before Luther and the Reformation the Catholic Church kept Europe in the dark ages and shackled thought, science and philosophy for over a thousand years.
By imposing Aristotle on the world and demanding his was God's divine word, they strangled all progress until their authority was challenged.

Jackles, or whatever your stupid name is, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

Read a book, take a pill or do something!

[Arising_uk]

when i talk of rome i dont mean roman catholic as an item.roman catholic or proistant are semi systems for spreading the teachings of jesus. ...

So whats the whole system then?

the roman catholic or what ever church is important only because it spreads jesus teachings of its self it has no import ants. ...

There is a major difference, the Catholic Church claims a mouthpiece to 'God'. It also appears that the teachings of Jesus are not agreed upon, how do you explain that?

the british empire and the industrial revolution was essentially neo roman.cant see why you cant see that. ...

I can understand this but why can't you understand that the Roman Empire was also essentially influenced by the Greeks, the Babylonians, the Persians, the Egyptians, etc, etc. you are arbitrarily picking a time in history and then making-up a story to fit some belief you have about Christianity. There's also an argument that what came back to Britain after the Fall of Rome was not Roman but a form of Irish Christianity. We could also consider that The Industrial Revolution was essentially something new, never done before, a new tributary of History.

the goverment systems that allowed the industrial revolution to take place where roman. ...

Or Greek.

universitys such as oxford and cambridge are roman. ...

Or Greek.

roman doesnt mean romancatholic.jesus teachings are the datum for world and roman karma.

How are you managing to conflate Jesus's Christianity with karma? Karma is a religious concept associated with a different set of religious beliefs and essentially tied to the concept of reincarnation. The world is also very large and the two most populous nations have pretty much nothing to do with Christianity. You appear to just be making stuff-up, no problem with that but it doesn't match with reality.
p.s.
If you can't spell then you should turn-on your browsers spell-checker or alternatively write in a word-processor first and then cut-paste into the forum as it's incredibly lazy in this day and age to post so many misspellings and with such bad punctuation.