The Origin from Zero Vacuum: T=0K.

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The Origin from Zero Vacuum: T=0K.

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The Origin from Zero Vacuum: T=0K.
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Vacuum energy. Vacuum fluctuation/polarization/ transformation.
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Theoreticians say that leaving our ‘atomistic- matter’
paradigm behind, and taking ‘virtual antiparticles’,
we realized that the Cosmos / Vacuum ‘polarized ‘
itself, and the result of this polarization we know
as our world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_polarization
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“ Its effects can be observed in various phenomena
(such as spontaneous emission, the Casimir effect, the
van der Waals bonds, or the Lamb shift), and it is thought
to have consequences for the behavior of the Universe
on cosmological scales. “
/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy
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In quantum field theory, and specifically quantum electrodynamics,
vacuum polarization describes a process in which a background
electromagnetic field produces virtual electron–positron pairs that
change the distribution of charges and currents that generated
the original electromagnetic field. It is also sometimes referred
to as the self energy of the gauge boson (photon).
Vacuum polarization was observed experimentally in 1997 using
the TRISTAN particle accelerator in Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_polarization
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Light Created from a Vacuum:
Casimir Effect Observed in Superconducting Circuit
/ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2011) /
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 133050.htm
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Chalmers scientists create light from vacuum
http://www.chalmers.se/en/news/Pages/Ch ... acuum.aspx
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Although we are used to thinking of empty space as containing
nothing at all, and therefore having zero energy, the quantum
rules say that there is some uncertainty about this. Perhaps each
tiny bit of the vacuum actually contains rather a lot of energy.
If the vacuum contained enough energy, it could convert this
into particles, in line with E-Mc^2.
/ Book: Stephen Hawking. Pages 147-148.
By Michael White and John Gribbin. /
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‘ Somehow, the energy is extracted from the vacuum and turned
into particles...Don't try it in your basement, but you can do it.’
/ -- University of Chicago cosmologist Rocky Kolb /

From Vacuum’s fluctuations / transformation / polarization 'somehow'
the Origin of the Material Existence begins.
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P.S.
Dark Energy may be Vacuum
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 011607.php
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When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum, that endless infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug/18 ... everything
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-273.15 is this temperture indistinguishable from another -273.15
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jackles wrote:-273.15 is this temperture indistinguishable from another -273.15
The answer usually give to this question is that we must be talking about one object, not two. This is generally not regarded as a problem. If Venus is both the morning star and the evening start then we are using two different names to refer to the one planet. Just two different names for Venus. This is known as the Indiscernibility of Identicals. It is derived from a principle first put forward by Leibniz. The original principle was the Identity of Indiscernibles. This original formulation is still the subject of much debate.
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The question ‘ what was before: the chicken or the egg ?’ is very old and maybe
doesn’t have answer.
Therefore I will ask a simpler questions:
What was before: the ‘big bang’ or the vacuum?
Does ‘big bang’ create vacuum or vacuum give birth to ‘big bang’?
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[quote="socratus"]The question ‘ what was before: the chicken or the egg ?’ is very old and maybe
doesn’t have answer.
Therefore I will ask a simpler questions:
What was before: the ‘big bang’ or the vacuum?
Does ‘big bang’ create vacuum or vacuum give birth to ‘big bang.
the answer here is simple its the vacuum because the vacuum is fact or rest state to its self.the localised bang state of its self exists in the nonlocal rest state of its self.the bang state dosnt realy exist of its self.its an illusion of the vacuum rest state.time is at rest state to the moving event state .so the moment is always the exact same and indistinguishable.hope that makes scence.regs jackles.
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socratus wrote:The question ‘ what was before: the chicken or the egg ?’ is very old and maybe
doesn’t have answer.
Therefore I will ask a simpler questions:
What was before: the ‘big bang’ or the vacuum?
Does ‘big bang’ create vacuum or vacuum give birth to ‘big bang’?
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Depends on the theory you favour. I don't think there is a problem by postulating that vacuum energy gave rise to the Big Bang. I guess this is an attempt to explain the zero-point energy problem. Not much help I know.
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zero isnt zero.energy is the fictional form of zero.so zero isnt zero it just seems that way from a piont of view inside energy which is where we as observers are.
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so disinguishable forms of energy are inside indistinguisable consciousness.time is indistinguishable consciosness made fictionaly distinguishable by energy.
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How can the Origin appears from Zero Vacuum: T=0K.
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According to Dirac in his *vacuum's – holes sea* virtual particles
( antiparticles, particles of dark matter, zoo of elementary particles)
exist with negative energy; -E=Mc^2.

Through so-called *tunneling jump- phenomena* or so-called * vacuum
fluctuation / polarization / transformation* these virtual particles with
negative potential energy –E=Mc^2 using its own inner spin /
impulse h or h* can change its condition and become real particles
with energy: E=h*f
This effect can be observed in various phenomena (such as
spontaneous emission, the Casimir effect, the van der Waals bonds,
or the Lamb shift).
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jackles wrote:-273.15 is this temperture indistinguishable from another -273.15

It's also unachievable at least so we believe due to quantum mechanics theory, which I wont bore you with, and the Vacuum is not at 0k anyway although it's quite close.
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jackles wrote:-273.15 is this temperture indistinguishable from another -273.15

It's also unachievable, at least so we believe, due to quantum mechanics theory, which I wont bore you with, and the Vacuum is not at 0k anyway although it's usually quite close.
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it figures it cant get to that absolute.because of locality.its like light speed is locality fixed out of absolutness.or in side absolutness depending on which way you want to view it.
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jackles wrote:it figures it cant get to that absolute.because of locality.its like light speed is locality fixed out of absolutness.or in side absolutness depending on which way you want to view it.
You are obsessed with non locality but no that is not the reason. :P

It's actually due to the laws in thermodynamics, and the fact the ground state cannot be reached in a quantum system due to the energy concerns. The expanation involves some maths and is frankly unnecessary but essentially systems cannot go through infinite cooling steps to reach a finite point.
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in other words locality prevents it.
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jackles wrote:in other words locality prevents it.
No thermodynamics and its laws prevent it, locality has nothing to do with it. In any system you cannot have zero energy achieved by finite steps, which means absolute zero is impossible assuming the laws of thermodynamics are true it has little or nothing to do with quantum mechanics, beyond that fact that everything has something to do with it, this is a macro issue non locality is a nano issue and is not relevant. Basically this has nothing to do with any interactions at any level per se when it comes to locality, when it comes to energy yes, and thus has nothing to do with locality or non locality. You couldn't be further from the reason (well you could if you said God done it to mess with fundamentalists, or magical fairies prevent it with syrup and sausages, but you get the point).

Can I ask why you seem so intent on making locality such an issue? You seem rather caught up on it and I am not sure you really understand where it applies, which is fine I can show you some links if you want to learn more...
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