A time varying speed of light as a solution to cosmological puzzles
Authors: Andreas Albrecht, Joao Magueijo
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9811018
Where the Time come from ?
Re: Where the Time come from ?
Everybody knows that before *big bang * was no space, no time.
But nobody can understand that * no space, no time* is zero vacuum.
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'But I don't want to go among mad people,' said Alice.
'Oh, you can't help that,' said the cat. 'We're all mad here.'
/Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. By Lewis Carroll /
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But nobody can understand that * no space, no time* is zero vacuum.
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'But I don't want to go among mad people,' said Alice.
'Oh, you can't help that,' said the cat. 'We're all mad here.'
/Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. By Lewis Carroll /
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Re: Where the Time come from ?
that sould be zero vaccum is equal to infinite time which is consciousness .your consciousness socratas it has no size cos it did not need to happen .your consciousness existed before your brain existed.merry christmas.
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Eh? ..you mix theory with fact and fairytales? ..interesting!socratus wrote:Everybody knows that before *big bang * was no space, no time.
But nobody can understand that * no space, no time* is zero vacuum.
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'But I don't want to go among mad people,' said Alice.
'Oh, you can't help that,' said the cat. 'We're all mad here.'
/Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. By Lewis Carroll /
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Re: Where the Time come from ?
Time is a unit of "general pedometer" measuring the growth of Universe into the fourth dimension, measuring the speed of its condensation. Nothing can outrun this growth (~c) because there is nowhere to go yet. The future (in our natural concept of causality) does not yet exist. The future is just only growing. Say nothing can overtake the "time"...Cerveny wrote:The speed of the light is not primary, independent, absolute feature of the Universe, but it is derived from its general movement, from its particular growth, from its condensation, from its crystallization...
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if consciousness existed before movment but didnt happen to exist.then movment is illusuary to consciousness and energy moves so everything would be illusion in side consciousness.so ever thing would move execpt consciousness cos it never happen to move.
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ha . . . ha . . hmm . . . maybe you are right.jackles wrote: your consciousness existed before your brain existed.
merry christmas.
*The old philosophical question:
Does only the brain create Consciousness ?
Some scientists are not sure .*
/ Michael Talbot . . . Book ‘The Holographic Universe.’ /
Merry Christmas to you too.
=.
Re: Where the Time come from ?
Into the fourth dimension you can measure time only with quantum of light.Cerveny wrote:Time is a unit of "general pedometer" measuring the growth of Universe into the fourth dimension,Cerveny wrote:The speed of the light is not primary, independent, absolute feature of the Universe, but it is derived from its general movement, from its particular growth, from its condensation, from its crystallization...
measuring the speed of its condensation. Nothing can outrun this growth (~c) because there is
nowhere to go yet. The future (in our natural concept of causality) does not yet exist.
The future is just only growing.
Say nothing can overtake the "time"...
But quantum of light c=1 has no time in this 4D reference frame,
* Say nothing can overtake the "time"... * . . . into the fourth dimension
because this 4D reference frame is infinite.
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This sounds like a good rape of the understanding of time.socratus wrote:Into the fourth dimension you can measure time only with quantum of light.
But quantum of light c=1 has no time in this 4D reference frame,
* Say nothing can overtake the "time"... * . . . into the fourth dimension
because this 4D reference frame is infinite.
There are 8 dimensions, and who says that time is the 4th? Time in itself is just a dimension not THE 4th.
Yes, lengthcontraction and gravity can distot the fabric of space and time, so it seems that you are just saying random made up things.
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in other words in the 4 th dimension the photon exists but doesnt move in the normal scence of the word move.it the photon is all speed and no mass but in the 4th dimension theres no such thing as distance because it the 4th dimension has no terms of size which time and space are.so where does this leave the quantum with no mass.?the fact is the moment a photon existed in the 4th dimension the 3other dimensions would come in to existance out of the 4th the catter for that lonely photon.
Re: Where the Time come from ?
History is definitely frozen, it is unchanging sediment of times and the (ordered) future (even infinite) can not exist. Such future does not make sense and it is illogical. Einsteinian space-time model cannot reach real emanation. Let's say it's a mathematical tool for expressing of a particular disputed physical view. Sorry, but recorded perhaps someone slightest shift in the quantization of Einsteinian gravity for the last 80 years? No - because it is a wrong model :( Or maybe someone knows about something that has moved from the "forehead"/border of growing Universe (from the time of "now") to another time? No - because it is not possible. The history is fixed and the future (in our view of causality) does not exist yet :( Just consider it...
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The main problem with Einstein's model is that it apparently lacks the "gravitational repulsion". Perhaps it would be most natural to assign it to antimatter. Furthermore, I would probably guess the "gravitational magnetism" generated by the motion of matter. Finally, I would probably try (by some analogy of Dirac’s method) to "calculate" proton and antiproton (: If I would a young, strongly motivated, insightful physicist with good English :)Cerveny wrote:History is definitely frozen, it is unchanging sediment of times and the (ordered) future (even infinite) can not exist. Such future does not make sense and it is illogical. Einsteinian space-time model cannot reach real emanation. Let's say it's a mathematical tool for expressing of a particular disputed physical view. Sorry, but recorded perhaps someone slightest shift in the quantization of Einsteinian gravity for the last 80 years? No - because it is a wrong model :( Or maybe someone knows about something that has moved from the "forehead"/border of growing Universe (from the time of "now") to another time? No - because it is not possible. The history is fixed and the future (in our view of causality) does not exist yet :( Just consider it...
If we want to consider some "timeline" then it's just a local normal to the current 3-D space, to the surface of the growing 4-D universe (e.g. local normal to the surface of the 4-D sphere) - thus, each "time axis" may point in another direction in 4-D :(
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Perhaps more note: Famous "mc^2" can be understood as a kind of kinetic energy of motion toward the future..
BTW: Every physicist who suggests that in the universe is something infinitely great or infinitely small or that lasts an infinitely short or infinitely long period of time should consider returning back diploma :) He is not a physicist but he is a mathematician (:
BTW: Every physicist who suggests that in the universe is something infinitely great or infinitely small or that lasts an infinitely short or infinitely long period of time should consider returning back diploma :) He is not a physicist but he is a mathematician (:
Re: Where the Time come from ?
Time is not an entity. Time is merely a dimension created by human for the task of measurement per se just like, length, width and height. Time is an indicator for event or becoming process; whereas length, width and height are indicators for size and volume.
Time dilation?
When an object is set under an accelerating motion, the becoming process of the object would be stretched as compared with a relative object that is set under a constant or a decelerating motion. In other words, the becoming process of the object has been slowed down comparatively; not the time has been dilated or slowed down. Time would only assume the expression that the becoming process has slowed down and not the other way round.
Literally, the slowing down of the becoming process would mean the slowing down of the aging process for a sentient being. This is the correct understanding behind the thought experiment of twin paradox which concerns a twin who flies off in a spaceship traveling near the speed of light and returns to discover that his or her twin sibling has aged much more.
The principle in effect: -
Time is an expression that becoming process exists,
Becoming process is not an expression that time exists.
Time dilation?
When an object is set under an accelerating motion, the becoming process of the object would be stretched as compared with a relative object that is set under a constant or a decelerating motion. In other words, the becoming process of the object has been slowed down comparatively; not the time has been dilated or slowed down. Time would only assume the expression that the becoming process has slowed down and not the other way round.
Literally, the slowing down of the becoming process would mean the slowing down of the aging process for a sentient being. This is the correct understanding behind the thought experiment of twin paradox which concerns a twin who flies off in a spaceship traveling near the speed of light and returns to discover that his or her twin sibling has aged much more.
The principle in effect: -
Time is an expression that becoming process exists,
Becoming process is not an expression that time exists.
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A man decided.
One circle of Earth around the Sun is a year.
A year is 12 months.
A month is 30 days'
A day is 24 hours.
A hour is 60 minutes.
. . . . etc
For us this Earth's time is an absolute fact.
But every planet has its own year, own time.
For example: Martian year and time has another measuring.
A year on Mars lasts twice as long as Earth's year.
Here we are talking about *gravity time*.
So, if somebody want to know *what time is* then he needs
to understand *how were the planets created?*,
*where did matter come from?*
(the famous big bang doesn't give the answer to this question)
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And what is about the space between planets /stars /galaxies?
This is space of infinite/ eternal *cold kingdom* T=0K with
*negative virtual particles* -E=Mc^2.
Somehow (through vacuum transformation/ fluctuation/ polarization,
quantum tunneling phenomena ) these *negative virtual particles*
become real particles E=h*f.
These particles (E=h*f) can create everything in the Universe.
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One circle of Earth around the Sun is a year.
A year is 12 months.
A month is 30 days'
A day is 24 hours.
A hour is 60 minutes.
. . . . etc
For us this Earth's time is an absolute fact.
But every planet has its own year, own time.
For example: Martian year and time has another measuring.
A year on Mars lasts twice as long as Earth's year.
Here we are talking about *gravity time*.
So, if somebody want to know *what time is* then he needs
to understand *how were the planets created?*,
*where did matter come from?*
(the famous big bang doesn't give the answer to this question)
#
And what is about the space between planets /stars /galaxies?
This is space of infinite/ eternal *cold kingdom* T=0K with
*negative virtual particles* -E=Mc^2.
Somehow (through vacuum transformation/ fluctuation/ polarization,
quantum tunneling phenomena ) these *negative virtual particles*
become real particles E=h*f.
These particles (E=h*f) can create everything in the Universe.
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