thedoc wrote:Hjarloprillar wrote:Or as i see it
Mass creates space.
without any mater there is no space for each define the other.
a dualism
of fundamental proportion.
There can be no good without evil
there can be no light without dark
there can be no burger with a coke
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"the galaxies are not moving through space at that speed, the space the galaxies are in is moving away from us at that speed. It seems relativity does not apply to space itself, only the objects within that space."
interesting
Are matter, space and time still being created somewhere in the universe? perhaps at different points scattered about the universe or everywhere in the universe? And is that creation of new space and matter accelerating?
I dont believe the idea that there is no edge to the universe.
If this verse started with bang and expanded. it has outer [leading] edge.
this edge still exists. But it fits. If mass makes space then space 'peters' out past the edge of universe ///rob peter to pay paul
go far enough that the siderial verse can be occluded with an upheld hand,,like the astronaut that covered earth with a thumb.
space will not vanish. for the ship we observe from creates space. it is mass.
that space is not connected to thee space of the greater universe. it is the ship and people inside that make it.
what bends my noodle is holes. where does the hole go to or is it simply a mass pit where gravity becomes so titanic it creates a horizon we can never see into.
where the laws of reality maxout.
the average joe has no idea really of what a hole is,
collapsed mater means what? do atoms come apart? or just bunch up.
[as in neutron stars]
As a man who believes the universe a designed thing. [designed by ;god]
I must assume holes are not an anomaly.
They are so voracious and implacable a billion+[ a trillion? close to horizon] earth gravities orbital mechanics can rip a 1cm nickle steelball bearing apart as the far side of bearing wants to orbit at different rate than nearside
spaghettification is the official scientific term .
i call it the edge of understanding, nothing escapes. nothing lives.
yet when all the stars burn out they will remain and eat eachother till there is one hole left some 100 billion years from now.
daunting stuff.
And why i laugh at religions ;eternal life'
when reality is one huge black hole. where is heaven? 100 billion years after man goes extinct on the blue planet on edge of nondescript galaxy somewhere in past.
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my sister once said. nicky, if you were a christian you would be a prophet
my answer was i cant think of a less desirable path
sis we all are given a brain . i ask only that people use it and not depend on a prophet to answer question they can answer by using that brain.
the plan the god/design the farmer and seeder. made ages past has us now with minds. use them
