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Is the world becoming slowly but surely one way or another.romanised.The white house has roman archetecture for roman government .the very word government is roman.so are we set for a world roman system. Was the roman system the most conveinent to evolution.
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The Romans admired their predecessors, the Greeks. A lot of Roman architecture survived because of the keystone arch. European and American law is heavily based on Roman jurisprudence. There's really nothing new going on.
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This must then be the best system.the seed of which was planted and grew like a vine.from europe to the rest of the world.anywhere there is an arena or stadium.there is rome.the whole of south america comes under the heading of latin america.rome is a planitary system of government.
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Strange this very strong system rome just happens to be the hoste of jesuses teachings for the last 2000 years.
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jackles wrote:Strange this very strong system rome just happens to be the hoste of jesuses teachings for the last 2000 years.

Jesus

Je'seus

Je Zeus

Ye Zeus
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The church had its beginings in rome.rome took the church to europe.europe took the church to the world none of which was planned by any indervidual at its begining in rome.nature evolves its own pattern.the inderviduals ideas and sence of importants are irrelevent in the long term.
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jackles wrote:Is the world becoming slowly but surely one way or another.romanised.The white house has roman archetecture for roman government .the very word government is roman.so are we set for a world roman system. Was the roman system the most conveinent to evolution.
The Pax Romana has been the template, aspiration and admiration of Western Govts since it fell. Nothing amazing here.

It has bugger all to do with evolution(a much abused term).
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I would argue that the british empire amongst others was just an evolvment of the roman system certainly as reguards religion.
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automobiles and airplanes have amplified roam...

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jackles wrote:I would argue that the british empire amongst others was just an evolvment of the roman system certainly as reguards religion.
Well, I can see that both had in the end an established religion but I think it could be argued that this was a strength for the BE but the beginning of the end for the RE. As when it became the Holy Roman Empire it lost one of its previous strengths, i.e. a complete ambivalence to what religion its citizens followed as long as they obeyed the law and acknowledged Rome as their govt.
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The greek -roman civilisation fitted as a ready made catalist for christianity.without greek philosophy and roman government the church could never have expanded as it did independent of those ready made systems in place.it was perfect timing
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jackles wrote:The greek -roman civilisation fitted as a ready made catalist for christianity.without greek philosophy and roman government the church could never have expanded as it did independent of those ready made systems in place.it was perfect timing.
Maybe, maybe not. I'd hesitate to use the word "never" here.
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jackles wrote:The greek -roman civilisation fitted as a ready made catalist for christianity.without greek philosophy and roman government the church could never have expanded as it did independent of those ready made systems in place.it was perfect timing
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Depends from which viewpoint, it could be argued that it pretty much caused the ending of the Roman Empire and spelt the end of its tolerance for other religions and hundreds of years of persecution for others.
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jackles wrote:The greek -roman civilisation fitted as a ready made catalist for christianity.without greek philosophy and roman government the church could never have expanded as it did independent of those ready made systems in place.it was perfect timing
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I don't think it is really such a mystery. Early Greek civilization was marked by explaining the natural and supernatural world in terms of Gods and spirits. Every society had its own myths and legends.It became obvious that they all can't be right.

Clearly there is an is an attempt by pre and post Socratic philosophers to come up with some type of consistent and rational explanation for the natural world. For example, Plato's theories are an attempt at providing a complete world view. By this I mean a philosophy that sees consistency in all aspects of Greek life, especially politics and society.

I guess we could say that with the Romanization of the world the idea of naturalistic and supernaturalistic explanations for politics was replaced with supernaturalistic explanations for the human predicament. There is a good argument for strong similarities between certain aspects of Plato's theory and Christianity, viz. the Highest Good. Minus the political implications of course.
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it was the roman type of government and tax system that got man to the moon and safely back again.thus proving that it the roman system in evolutionary terms is a planitary system worthy of the name.
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