Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.
Re: Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.
Are you saying here that electrons and photons are the same thing.how does that relate to the structure of an atom then.
Re: Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.
The photon and the electron are one and the same particle in different conditions.
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In every physical text-book is possible to read that the photon
and the electron are very different particles.
What do we know about them?
About photon Einstein wrote:
‘ All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it,
but he is mistaken. ‘
And we don't know why the electron has six ( 6 ) formulas
E=h*f , e^2=ah*c , +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 ,
E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV and E= ∞
We don't know: what are interactions between them.
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Now physicists think that electron interacts with another using photon.
But Russian physicist V. Rydnik wrote:
' Now take the electron. Even if its velocity is close to that
of light – 10^10 cm/s – it will have a momentum of only
about 10^-17 g cm/s. The gamma photon used for
illumination has a very short wavelength ( say, 6 10^13 cm)
and a momentum of 10^-14, which is thousands of times that
of the electron. So, when a photon hits an electron, it is like
a railway train smashing into a baby- carriage.’
/ ABC’s of quantum mechanics. By V. Rydnik. Page 98-99. /
So, electron cannot interact with photon in such way.
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a)
when photon moves with constant speed c=1 – it is a flat particle and
electron is usually taken as a sphere- particle.
The photon and the electron are not a firm constant particles,
their geometrical form can be changed.
b)
In the QM the electron follows Fermi- Dirac (fermion) statistics =
uses only h*=h/2pi (Pauli Exclusion Law )
while the photon follows Bose- Einstein (boson) statistics = uses only h.
c)
Every quantum particle possess dualistic ability
(simultaneous wave-corpuscular dualism)
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My idea.
The photon and the electron are one and the same particle in different
conditions and the *simultaneous corpuscular/wave dualism* phenomena
of quantum particle can prove my idea.
I say: every quantum particle has not only one (1) but two (2) different own,
Inner impulses (spins).
By the linear spin h=1 quantum - particle receives straight – uniform
movement with constant speed c=1
Using the linear spin h=1 quantum particle behaviors as a corpuscular
(there isn't any electromagnetic radiation)
By the angular spin h*=h/2pi quantum-particle rotates around its diameter
and its speed is faster than c=1. Its speed is c>1 as a frequency of particle.
The rotating frequency of particle creates waves.
The independent quantum particle can use own / inner linear or angular
(and vice versa) impulse depends on situation. ( h <==> h*=h/2pi)
=.
Quote by Heinrich Hertz on Maxwell's equations:
"One cannot escape the feeling that these mathematical formulae
have an independent existence and an intelligence of their own,
that they are wiser than we are, wiser even than their discoverers,
that we get more out of them than was originally put into them."
Can we understand the wisdom of the quantum particle?
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In every physical text-book is possible to read that the photon
and the electron are very different particles.
What do we know about them?
About photon Einstein wrote:
‘ All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it,
but he is mistaken. ‘
And we don't know why the electron has six ( 6 ) formulas
E=h*f , e^2=ah*c , +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 ,
E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV and E= ∞
We don't know: what are interactions between them.
=.
Now physicists think that electron interacts with another using photon.
But Russian physicist V. Rydnik wrote:
' Now take the electron. Even if its velocity is close to that
of light – 10^10 cm/s – it will have a momentum of only
about 10^-17 g cm/s. The gamma photon used for
illumination has a very short wavelength ( say, 6 10^13 cm)
and a momentum of 10^-14, which is thousands of times that
of the electron. So, when a photon hits an electron, it is like
a railway train smashing into a baby- carriage.’
/ ABC’s of quantum mechanics. By V. Rydnik. Page 98-99. /
So, electron cannot interact with photon in such way.
====.
a)
when photon moves with constant speed c=1 – it is a flat particle and
electron is usually taken as a sphere- particle.
The photon and the electron are not a firm constant particles,
their geometrical form can be changed.
b)
In the QM the electron follows Fermi- Dirac (fermion) statistics =
uses only h*=h/2pi (Pauli Exclusion Law )
while the photon follows Bose- Einstein (boson) statistics = uses only h.
c)
Every quantum particle possess dualistic ability
(simultaneous wave-corpuscular dualism)
==============…
My idea.
The photon and the electron are one and the same particle in different
conditions and the *simultaneous corpuscular/wave dualism* phenomena
of quantum particle can prove my idea.
I say: every quantum particle has not only one (1) but two (2) different own,
Inner impulses (spins).
By the linear spin h=1 quantum - particle receives straight – uniform
movement with constant speed c=1
Using the linear spin h=1 quantum particle behaviors as a corpuscular
(there isn't any electromagnetic radiation)
By the angular spin h*=h/2pi quantum-particle rotates around its diameter
and its speed is faster than c=1. Its speed is c>1 as a frequency of particle.
The rotating frequency of particle creates waves.
The independent quantum particle can use own / inner linear or angular
(and vice versa) impulse depends on situation. ( h <==> h*=h/2pi)
=.
Quote by Heinrich Hertz on Maxwell's equations:
"One cannot escape the feeling that these mathematical formulae
have an independent existence and an intelligence of their own,
that they are wiser than we are, wiser even than their discoverers,
that we get more out of them than was originally put into them."
Can we understand the wisdom of the quantum particle?
==.
Re: Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.
There is no wisdom in quantum particles. They exist only because they make our models of the universe elegant. Well, as elegant as can be.
Electrons and photons are completely different. An electron is a physical object composed of even more fundamental particles called quarks. A photon is a parcel of energy. The two are related in Einstein's famous equation.
Most importantly, what relevance does this have to philosophy?
Electrons and photons are completely different. An electron is a physical object composed of even more fundamental particles called quarks. A photon is a parcel of energy. The two are related in Einstein's famous equation.
Most importantly, what relevance does this have to philosophy?
Re: Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.
* The Law of conservation and transformation of energy/ mass* and photon/electron.
a)
The simple *banal* electron has six ( 6 ) formulas:
( E=h*f , e^2=ah*c , +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 ,
E=-me^4/2h*^2=-13,6eV , E= ∞ ) and we don't know
what interactions between them are.
b)
According to QED in interaction with vacuum all electron's parameters
becomes infinite. That is impossible according to
“ The law of conservation (!) energy/mass”.
But it can be possible according to
“ The law of transformation (!) energy/mass”
The problem: we don’t know: what *transformation* means
according to one single electron.
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Taking only ‘The law of conservation of energy’ is a half-truth.
By half- truth we are deceived ourselves.
Taking only law of transformation of energy is also a half-truth.
By other half- truth we are deceived ourselves too.
If somebody takes only one part of the whole law ( conservation )
and ignore the second part of it (transformation) then he is falsifier.
Only together
“ The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass” is true law.
#
Physicists don't understand what to do with electron's infinite sizes,
and therefore they had invented *a method of renormalization*,
a method *to sweep the dust under the carpet* / Feynman./
#
If somebody think that , “ The Law of preservation and transformation
of energy/ mass “ is a simple bookkeeping calculation of debit-credit
he is mistaken. It is a primitive judgment about one of the most
important Law in Nature. It is merchant’s opinion.
Why?
Because on the one hand the bookkeeping calculation of debit-credit is
“ a symmetry law”. ( like 1$ is 100 cents )
But on the other hand the life in the Universe begins with
disturb of symmetry.
The occurrence of Life in the Universe is connected not with symmetry,
but with breaking of symmetry.
For something to happen there has to be a "broken symmetry".
( It means 1$ is not equal to 100 cents.)
Here ( in the broken symmetry) appears the effect of ‘transformation’.
Ouestion.
What does " The Law of Conservation and Transformation
of Energy/ Mass" mean according to one single electron?
How can electron keep its local parameters at interaction with vacuum
according to “The law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass” ?
My opinion.
When electron E=h*f interacts with vacuum T=0K all its parameters change into
virtual –particles (antielectron) with the negative energy: -E=Mc^2.
If this antielectron uses impulse h=1 – it becomes photon c=1.
(this corpuscular in its constant straight movement doesn't create waves)
If this antielectron uses impulse h*=h/2pi – it becomes electron: E=h*f.
(this corpuscular in its revolving movement (frequency) creates waves)
#
In 1924, trying to understand the *simultaneous corpuscular/wave dualism*,
de Broglie invented *the mechanism by which a particle was guided by its pilot wave*
It means that particle for de Broglie was secondary part of *pilot wave*
I say that the quantum particle ( photon/electron) is cause of *pilot wave*
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Best wishes
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
a)
The simple *banal* electron has six ( 6 ) formulas:
( E=h*f , e^2=ah*c , +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 ,
E=-me^4/2h*^2=-13,6eV , E= ∞ ) and we don't know
what interactions between them are.
b)
According to QED in interaction with vacuum all electron's parameters
becomes infinite. That is impossible according to
“ The law of conservation (!) energy/mass”.
But it can be possible according to
“ The law of transformation (!) energy/mass”
The problem: we don’t know: what *transformation* means
according to one single electron.
#
Taking only ‘The law of conservation of energy’ is a half-truth.
By half- truth we are deceived ourselves.
Taking only law of transformation of energy is also a half-truth.
By other half- truth we are deceived ourselves too.
If somebody takes only one part of the whole law ( conservation )
and ignore the second part of it (transformation) then he is falsifier.
Only together
“ The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass” is true law.
#
Physicists don't understand what to do with electron's infinite sizes,
and therefore they had invented *a method of renormalization*,
a method *to sweep the dust under the carpet* / Feynman./
#
If somebody think that , “ The Law of preservation and transformation
of energy/ mass “ is a simple bookkeeping calculation of debit-credit
he is mistaken. It is a primitive judgment about one of the most
important Law in Nature. It is merchant’s opinion.
Why?
Because on the one hand the bookkeeping calculation of debit-credit is
“ a symmetry law”. ( like 1$ is 100 cents )
But on the other hand the life in the Universe begins with
disturb of symmetry.
The occurrence of Life in the Universe is connected not with symmetry,
but with breaking of symmetry.
For something to happen there has to be a "broken symmetry".
( It means 1$ is not equal to 100 cents.)
Here ( in the broken symmetry) appears the effect of ‘transformation’.
Ouestion.
What does " The Law of Conservation and Transformation
of Energy/ Mass" mean according to one single electron?
How can electron keep its local parameters at interaction with vacuum
according to “The law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass” ?
My opinion.
When electron E=h*f interacts with vacuum T=0K all its parameters change into
virtual –particles (antielectron) with the negative energy: -E=Mc^2.
If this antielectron uses impulse h=1 – it becomes photon c=1.
(this corpuscular in its constant straight movement doesn't create waves)
If this antielectron uses impulse h*=h/2pi – it becomes electron: E=h*f.
(this corpuscular in its revolving movement (frequency) creates waves)
#
In 1924, trying to understand the *simultaneous corpuscular/wave dualism*,
de Broglie invented *the mechanism by which a particle was guided by its pilot wave*
It means that particle for de Broglie was secondary part of *pilot wave*
I say that the quantum particle ( photon/electron) is cause of *pilot wave*
===…
Best wishes
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
Re: Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.
Fluctuation in symmetery =a differentual in symmetery
Re: Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.
in otherwords it an electron is a donut expression of a photon.which is at one inthe same moment inside and outside super time space.
Re: Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.
Gentlemen,
Your discussion is tedious. You are using electrons and photons even as you write your words. There is no confusion in the professional community as to what they are - two different entities.
Worse yet, your discourse is exactly what the editors of this site fear most. Unless you can focus your energy on something more fundamentally philosophical, you will drive away others who may otherwise care.
T
Your discussion is tedious. You are using electrons and photons even as you write your words. There is no confusion in the professional community as to what they are - two different entities.
Worse yet, your discourse is exactly what the editors of this site fear most. Unless you can focus your energy on something more fundamentally philosophical, you will drive away others who may otherwise care.
T
Re: Electron – spin – quantum vacuum fluctuation.
Tusok wrote:Gentlemen,
Your discussion is tedious. You are using electrons and photons even as you write your words. There is no confusion in the professional community as to what they are - two different entities.
Worse yet, your discourse is exactly what the editors of this site fear most. Unless you can focus your energy on something more fundamentally philosophical, you will drive away others who may otherwise care.
T
Not really, we just move on to the next thread and ignore the ones that are tedious.