What does universal ethics look like?

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jackles wrote:Universal means nonlocal.it means ethics that dont just applie in a particular locality on earth or any where else in the universe.in other words ethics are nonlocal as in not attached to a particular event.but are general through timespace.
So what>?
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Hobbes' Choice wrote: Allow me to dump your drivel in the nearest circular floor located metal filing bin.

PLONK.
Lol, got to make a note in my laboratory notebook, attempt #1 of converting HC failed. Got to implement plan B.

Lesson learned from this experiment: should have listened to my parents and not joined the PN forum since it indeed makes my path towards sainthood so much more difficult.
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Commence Plan B:
1. Try to appear to be helpful.


HC, you may want to check under that metal cover before trying to dispose of anything else in there, I think you and your compatriots pretty much already filled it up.
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There are universal ethics, to keep societies stabil.
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HexHammer wrote:There are universal ethics, to keep societies stable.
Correct and the most universal ethics will forever be taught by religion and not by secular academics and politicians, and what a relief that is.
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QMan wrote:
HexHammer wrote:There are universal ethics, to keep societies stable.
Correct and the most universal ethics will forever be taught by religion and not by secular academics and politicians, and what a relief that is.
Looking at the world situation today, it seem that religion are mod a destabelizing factor.

Jews againsts Palestine, Shia vs Sunni and muslims against everybody since the 11+ verse by Mohammed dictates to erradicated the infidels, so yearh.
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QMan wrote:Correct and the most universal ethics will forever be taught by religion and not by secular academics and politicians, and what a relief that is.
Not to the unbeliever it isn't and given every believer is an unbeliever to the other believers it'll be up to the secular academics and politicians to pick up the pieces after they've stopped slaughtering themselves in defiance of their universal ethics.

Personally, Ayn Rand made about the best case I've heard for why we have Ethics and Morals.
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HexHammer wrote:There are universal ethics, to keep societies stabil.
Are you jackels?
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Arising_uk wrote:
QMan wrote:Correct and the most universal ethics will forever be taught by religion and not by secular academics and politicians, and what a relief that is.
Not to the unbeliever it isn't and given every believer is an unbeliever to the other believers it'll be up to the secular academics and politicians to pick up the pieces after they've stopped slaughtering themselves in defiance of their universal ethics.

Personally, Ayn Rand made about the best case I've heard for why we have Ethics and Morals.
Try another book.

I'd hate to think that bitch has another acolyte.
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Hobbes' Choice wrote:
HexHammer wrote:There are universal ethics, to keep societies stabil.
Are you jackels?
Asking that would suggest you don't comprehend abstract logic.
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HexHammer wrote:
QMan wrote:
HexHammer wrote:There are universal ethics, to keep societies stable.
Correct and the most universal ethics will forever be taught by religion and not by secular academics and politicians, and what a relief that is.
Looking at the world situation today, it seem that religion are mod a destabelizing factor.

Jews againsts Palestine, Shia vs Sunni and muslims against everybody since the 11+ verse by Mohammed dictates to erradicated the infidels, so yearh.
Will append this one more time. Here is the reason for all this, read 1st paragraph in link. http://www.medjugorje.com/medjugorje-me ... mainform=1
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QMan wrote:Will append this one more time. Here is the reason for all this, read 1st paragraph in link. http://www.medjugorje.com/medjugorje-me ... mainform=1
Try look at reality instead of quotes from a fairytale book called The Bible.
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HexHammer wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
HexHammer wrote:There are universal ethics, to keep societies stabil.
Are you jackels?
Asking that would suggest you don't comprehend abstract logic.
I'll take that as a yes.
Certainly your grasp of spelling, grammar and punctuation would indicate that.
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HexHammer wrote:
QMan wrote:Will append this one more time. Here is the reason for all this, read 1st paragraph in link. http://www.medjugorje.com/medjugorje-me ... mainform=1
Try look at reality instead of quotes from a fairytale book called The Bible.
Try another book is always good advice.
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To summarize, and agreeing with T. McKamey, a world constitution would, at minimum, subject to amendment, contain these declarations:

Be it Resolved

Article One. The people of the planet, Earth, shall exhibit compassion and respect for all others regardless of creed, complexion, location, gender, occupation, status, origin, beliefs, or who they love.

Article Two. The people of this planet shall encourage and appreciate what others can offer, and shall actively find ways to accommodate people from other cultures, with different family values.

Article Three. The people shall promote human rights over corporate rule and they shall oppose governmental infringement on the inherent right of the people. We are to find ways to empower people from the bottom up rather than from the top down, with a view to providing a quality life for all.


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This document sets a standard. As soon as they are old enough, kids can be taught it in school, in the early grades. They will ask: What are the human rights? And they can then be referred to The Universal Declaration of Human Rights issued by the U.N. They will be expected to be acquainted with some of those items. 8)

:arrow: So it then becomes a question of working it into the curricula of primary schools. We won't start with Texas or Somalia, but rather with Nepal, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and the Scandanavian countries. There will likely be non-profit organizations that will work to promote the adoption of the constitution everywhere, even eventually in backward nations ..such as, perhaps, the U.S.A. (?) :wink:


Constructive comments are welcome. Impressions? Upgrades? Improvements? ...In keeping with the title of this thread, and in the spirit of ethical conduct.
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prof wrote:To summarize, and agreeing with T. McKamey, a world constitution would, at minimum, subject to amendment, contain these declarations:

Be it Resolved

Article One. The people of the planet, Earth, shall exhibit compassion and respect for all others regardless of creed, complexion, location, gender, occupation, status, origin, beliefs, or who they love.

Article Two. The people of this planet shall encourage and appreciate what others can offer, and shall actively find ways to accommodate people from other cultures, with different family values.

Article Three. The people shall promote human rights over corporate rule and they shall oppose governmental infringement on the inherent right of the people. We are to find ways to empower people from the bottom up rather than from the top down, with a view to providing a quality life for all.


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This document sets a standard. As soon as they are old enough, kids can be taught it in school, in the early grades. They will ask: What are the human rights? And they can then be referred to The Universal Declaration of Human Rights issued by the U.N. They will be expected to be acquainted with some of those items. 8)

:arrow: So it then becomes a question of working it into the curricula of primary schools. We won't start with Texas or Somalia, but rather with Nepal, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and the Scandanavian countries. There will likely be non-profit organizations that will work to promote the adoption of the constitution everywhere, even eventually in backward nations ..such as, perhaps, the U.S.A. (?) :wink:


Constructive comments are welcome. Impressions? Upgrades? Improvements? ...In keeping with the title of this thread, and in the spirit of ethical conduct.
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights gives rights freely, dispensed with a gay largesse.
In doing so it denigrates the value and meaning of the term 'rights'.
When shed loads of cash is printed we all know the consequence; money becomes worth much less.
For an 8 year old kid working everyday smashing rocks and carrying cement on his back in India, these "rights" are a sick joke. For the girl snatched from her family in the Ukraine and sold into the sex trade, her family under the threat of death, what do these rights actually mean?
Without the back-up or even the will amongst the most powerful governments of the world to enforce these rights, those rights are just a pretty aspiration; empty words.
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