gods image

[jackles]

Re think.the core objective meaning of all events is objective omni presents.which is the non in the nonlocal as in quantum mechanics and as general as in general relativity.it is the prime mover of all moveing things in time space like frames.it is also the consciouness of localised beings.

[QMan]

This is very interesting. Found a book and some on-line material concerning this topic. There was this little boy (Colton Burpo) who during serious surgery/illness went to heaven and spent some time there and then came back. His parents did not know about it until he dropped a remark months later. Not wanting to lead him on, they slowly got the details from him over the next few years. His father eventually started showing him popularized pictures of Jesus and asked him if that's what he looks like and the answer always was, nah, that's not him. One day the father learned about a young and very spiritual young girl prodigy painter (Akiane Kramarik) who had painted a picture of Jesus at age 8. Her pictures now sell for $100k and above. He got a copy, showed it to his son who looked at it for a while and then said, yep, that's what he looks like. Here is their story. So, potentially, we now do have an image of God. He actually looks quite likeable.

Colton Burpo
http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2 ... -for-real/

Akiane Kramarik
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiq-JJpYIX8

[jackles]

Thats nice to know.but its my oppinion that god is no thing as in form.spirit is ultimatly not a form like object.but god is in my opinion a sizeless super object.

[Immanuel Can]

Well, that's an interesting guess.

Of course, all random guesses are the same; all equally unlikely and equally uncheckable.

Now, if you had some data into that guess...

Do you?

[jackles]

Numbers.or statistics is a pointer.the shear number.of churches temples and what ever plus the numbers of believers over time and in different and some times isolated cultures.stastics alone pionts to there being a god.and if there is a god reason points in the direction of nonlocality.as in quantum physics.

[Ginkgo]

Numbers.or statistics is a pointer.the shear number.of churches temples and what ever plus the numbers of believers over time and in different and some times isolated cultures.stastics alone pionts to there being a god.and if there is a god reason points in the direction of nonlocality.as in quantum physics.

Let me run some data past and see what people think.

The Schrodinger equation is touted by some as a theory of everything, perhaps it might be closer to the truth if we were to say it is a theory of almost every thing.

There was a posting somewhere by Professor Franklin ( I think this is who it was) in relation to the nature of mathematics. Basically he explores one possibility that mathematics exists in a world of its own just waiting to be discovered by us. The Schrodinger equation fits the Franklin idea very well. The Schrodinger equation unites the classical and the quantum. The only thing it cannot explain is what actually happens when when an event actually occurs. In other words,quantum information is not retrievable unless this information is turned into knowledge and to be turn information into knowledge requires an intelligence in the form of us.

I think this is where the problem lies in terms of the observer of an event. It is wrongly assumed that quantum information in order to be turned into knowledge requires an intelligence. Another popular way of expressing this is, "It cannot be be read without the state becoming a measured value". Measuring requires knowledge and knowledge requires intelligence. Even though this is a popular interpretation I don't think it is strictly correct.

[Immanuel Can]

Jackles:

By "data" I meant, "Do you actually claim to *know some facts* about the Supreme Being, or are you just making stuff up?" I didn't mean a head-count of adherents, which would be irrelevant to the whole question.

So let me ask again: What are your facts, and how do you know them? Or are you just shooting the breeze?

[jackles]

Just to reply to ginkgo.yeah intelligents alters the true meaning of an event to the observer.intelligents is what leads astray the mind.how lucky people are who just exept with faith.intelligents about the event is the apple.

[jackles]

Ok emanuel.what ive said are my own conclusions based on experience.as in unless you eat of the tree of life you can in no way enter the kingdom.jesus words.

[Immanuel Can]

unless you eat of the tree of life you can in no way enter the kingdom.jesus words

Nope. He said, "Unless one is born again he cannot enter the kingdom of God." (NASB) Those are the actual words of Jesus Christ.

So what "experience," as you put it, has convinced you of your theory on the Supreme Being?

[jackles]

I witnessed what i would call magic. And also i did some magic real magic .it happened out of the blue i had never thought on things in a deep kind of way before this.we where taught about jesus miricals and that at school.when i saw the magic happen it reminded me of jesuses miricals i new it was then a true account so i got interestested in how it could take place.magic i mean.i mean it doesnt make scence an individual in this universe doing magic.i had to solve the problem couldnt let it rest.then i read some indian stuff which seemed correct.i read up on taoism and budism.it all seemed to ring true.then again out of the blue i had an obe.out of body experience.i was me but in another place or so i thought.started reading physics relativity and stuff.i wont go on to much but i would advise any one not to act in a selfish way towards others.the place i went to in the obe is not for the selfish.