Are Guns the Problem?

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Godfree wrote: So you LIKE THE IDEA THAT IDIOTS FIND IT GENERALLY EASIER TO KILL ,this is good that a criminal can kill you a bit easier ,,??? explain please , are you saying you think we should make it easier for our criminals and thugs , to generally find it easier to kill us ,,???
Yeah, right, let's get rid of steak knives, ice picks and baseball bats, too. In fact, why don't we all go hide in caves? Get real, my friend.
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"So you LIKE THE IDEA THAT IDIOTS FIND IT GENERALLY EASIER TO KILL"

I don't like or dislike the fact.

It simply 'is' what it 'is'.


Another fact: removing every gun (and the capacity to construct guns) from the entirety of the world will not stop folks from offing one another.

They'll use fists and teeth and tree limbs and rocks and whatever else each can get his or her hands on.

'Gun' is not the problem...'human being' is the problem...get used to it, and, get over it.

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"are you saying you think we should make it easier for our criminals and thugs...to kill us ,,???"

No.

I'm sayin' you ought to defend yourself better.

Pandora's Armory opened its doors ages ago and all the guns flew out into the world.

*Too late for 'gun-free' anything.

So: defend yourself (or not...*shrug*).









*not that it matters...again: 'fists and teeth and tree limbs and rocks and whatever'
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Drunk drivers kill people, car accidents kill people, football kills people. Let's get rid of booze, cars and sports. Wait, forget about getting rid of the booze, we tried that once and it didn't work.
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bobevenson wrote:
Ginkgo wrote:Prophets do debate political things, otherwise it would make no sense to be a political prophet.
Prophets never debate; that would be like asking John on the isle of Patmos to debate the book of Revelation!

If prophets never debate then you seem to have done a lot of debating on social political and economic matters in this thread in the past. By the look of things since I have come back you seem to have been debating these things a lot more.
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bobevenson wrote:
Godfree wrote: So you LIKE THE IDEA THAT IDIOTS FIND IT GENERALLY EASIER TO KILL ,this is good that a criminal can kill you a bit easier ,,??? explain please , are you saying you think we should make it easier for our criminals and thugs , to generally find it easier to kill us ,,???
Yeah, right, let's get rid of steak knives, ice picks and baseball bats, too. In fact, why don't we all go hide in caves? Get real, my friend.

In a previous post I pointed out to someone who was a prophet that doesn't debate these things, that this is a continuum fallacy.
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I don't consider anything I say a debate, but merely a courtesy to set people straight.
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bobevenson wrote:I don't consider anything I say a debate, but merely a courtesy to set people straight.

Fair enough. I will go back over your posts in this thread and come to the realization that you haven't been taking part in discussions or debates.
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Ginkgo wrote:
bobevenson wrote:I don't consider anything I say a debate, but merely a courtesy to set people straight.

Fair enough. I will go back over your posts in this thread and come to the realization that you haven't been taking part in discussions or debates.
Right, just setting people straight.
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bobevenson wrote:
Ginkgo wrote:
bobevenson wrote:I don't consider anything I say a debate, but merely a courtesy to set people straight.

Fair enough. I will go back over your posts in this thread and come to the realization that you haven't been taking part in discussions or debates.
Right, just setting people straight.
Now we have sorted that out can we get back to the discus....Err, I mean..conversation.
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Ginkgo wrote:Now we have sorted that out can we get back to the discus....Err, I mean..conversation.
Certainly, how can I set you straight?
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bobevenson wrote:
Ginkgo wrote:Now we have sorted that out can we get back to the discus....Err, I mean..conversation.
Certainly, how can I set you straight?
Don't worry about it Bob I'll try and work it out myself. Thanks anyway.
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Ginkgo wrote:
bobevenson wrote:
Ginkgo wrote:Now we have sorted that out can we get back to the discus....Err, I mean..conversation.
Certainly, how can I set you straight?
Don't worry about it Bob I'll try and work it out myself.
I'd suggest starting with the book of Revelation and "The Ouzo Prophecy," my friend.
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bobevenson wrote: Certainly, how can I set you straight?
Don't worry about it Bob I'll try and work it out myself.[/quote]
I'd suggest starting with the book of Revelation and "The Ouzo Prophecy," my friend.[/quote]

I was actually think about the continuum fallacy.
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Forget the continuum fallacy, which erroneously rejects a vague claim simply because it is not as precise as one would like it to be. Vagueness alone does not imply invalidity.
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bobevenson wrote:Vagueness alone does not imply invalidity.

Does anyone still doubt this man?
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