When you look into an abyss...

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[John K]

...the abyss looks back at you. Been reading Nietzsche?

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No I have never read Nietzsche.



I feel I have an inherent aversion to the writings of Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche.



I like the sound of the quote I used.








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[ubermensch]

"I mock winter with a cold bath"

[Bill Wiltrack]

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If that is what Nietzsche spouted I am beginning to see why I've never had an interest...



I LOVE, no better yet; I NEED a hot shower.


...and I have felt the sting of winter...I need protection.






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[Arising_uk]

I feel I have an inherent aversion to the writings of Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche.

I like the sound of the quote I used.

Thereby proving yourself to be a blinking idiot.

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I'm not sure I need to read his ramblings...



A lot of the people who have read him don't seem too nice.







I'm pretty much done with reading books. I don't read books anymore.



Pretty much no one reads whole books anymore.



There's no time.






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...and beside, it's strange to verbalize this but, I'm moving to not believe in words.


I want to be more fluid in my life, my moments.


Words seem to kill life.





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[Lakin]

I thought the entire word exchange here was artistic in a satirical kind of way.

[Kuznetzova]

I'm pretty much done with reading books. I don't read books anymore.

[reasonvemotion]

It takes courage to face the void, to admit and even affirm it.

I did not have that courage.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I know I fail each & every moment.






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[Arising_uk]

I'm not sure I need to read his ramblings...

You're not sure about so many things but in this one how is it possible for you to know they are ramblings?

A lot of the people who have read him don't seem too nice.

For instance?

I'm pretty much done with reading books. I don't read books anymore.

It shows.

Pretty much no one reads whole books anymore.

Pretty much the same people who never read in the first place. Although you are wrong as literacy is going-up in the world and books are being devoured everywhere. What you are saying is that in your culture people cannot read whole books anymore. And I'm not sure even thats true.

There's no time.

True but obviously not in the sense you mean as if it was you'd have time to read a book.

...and beside, it's strange to verbalize this but, I'm moving to not believe in words.

What is it that you believe about words in the first place?

I want to be more fluid in my life, my moments.

What would being more fluid in your life do for you?

What would being more fluid in your life be like to you?

How would you know when you are being more fluid in your life ?

Are just some words that could be fruitfully thought about.

Words seem to kill life.

Sticks and stones kill life.

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By more fluid I mean that, my focus of consciousness is less glued to the sticky substance of the literal intellect.


As far as, Words seem to kill life, I would have to refer to moments of, what I consider to be, higher states of consciousness. There is a clarity...That's all I can say right now. A clarity that an individual would have to experience in order to know it.



I wish you all the luck in your attempts to obtain this clarity that I am thankfully familiar with.






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[Arising_uk]

.By more fluid I mean that, my focus of consciousness is less glued to the sticky substance of the literal intellect.

This seems are very unfluid thought?

As far as, Words seem to kill life, I would have to refer to moments of, what I consider to be, higher states of consciousness. There is a clarity...That's all I can say right now. A clarity that an individual would have to experience in order to know it.[/size]

I think you have a misunderstanding as to what to "know" something means. If you knew it you'd be able to teach it. From what I understand you can't even recreate it.

I wish you all the luck in your attempts to obtain this clarity that I am thankfully familiar with.[/size]

Doesn't seem to be working out that well for you. As it's clouding your intellect and according to you making you depressed. You know what I like about the Buddha? As an enlightened one the rest of his life was spent fat and happy with a younger women. Westerners always look to the serene Buddha but his back was as straight when laughing.

He also taught his way and it's very clear. You could try it sometime if enlightenment is what you're looking for, anyone can renounce possessions and join a Burmese Buddhist monastery. I reckon three years yoga and meditation everyday, growing veg, house cleaning and sitting for alms when not would put one on the right path.

Me, I'm not searching for the kind of 'clarity' you appear to wish. Its why I like 'Western' Philosophy as its clarity is clear for anyone who cares to look.

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Again, the clarity I speak of is something one has to taste.


All literal attempts at defining it fall short.


Just the nature of the beast.



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Still...I hope you have a breakthrough...




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