has evolution made dogs mans best friend

[jackles]

Why do humans and dogs work so well together .they understand each other so well they share empathy.do dogs go to heaven.?i reckon they do.

[Skip]

If there were a heaven, dogs would certainly go there. But don't be too surprised if, when you arrive, they don't fawn on you the way they did in life. They may greet you in a friendly way, but then they'll go off with their friends and do canine stuff, like chasing phantom deer and pissing upside clouds. Once they die, they are no longer subservient to man.

Evolution didn't make them man's friend: evolution made them similar enough to communicate with and potentially useful, so man changed them to his own purposes, just as he did with cattle, horses and ducks. (Cats made their own choice.)

[jackles]

So whats a friend then skip.a friend is some one or somthing that would risk there life for you or someone else.so if a dog would do that hes a true friend.a nature that would risk it own life for another part of nature thats love.love is nonlocal.nonlocal is heaven.

[Skip]

I never doubted that dogs make excellent friends. I've had very good dogs and if I went to heaven someday, I would certainly expect them to greet me.
We expect dogs to risk their lives for us, to behave according to our rules, which override their instincts and inclinations. We also take for granted that they'll go where we lead, undertake whatever hardship we impose on them, from pulling sleds with ice between their toes, to rescuing us from collapsed buildings, to herding sheep to tearing one another to shreds for the pleasure of a human audience. But who do you think gets eaten or left behind when the arctic expedition runs into trouble? Who gets thrown out on the street when money's tight? Who gets 'put to sleep' if he's inconvenient?
Dog may be man's best friend, but man sure isn't dog's best friend.

Your first question was, did evolution do this? No: man did.

[jackles]

I think i must agree with you there skip.

[The Voice of Time]

Why do humans and dogs work so well together .they understand each other so well they share empathy.

Dogs are quite emotional to a very complex level, which allows us to develop "into" their feelings. They also share some similar characteristics of sophistication on some levels. Their way of saying "hi" for instance, while not particularly pretty, is very much a civilized act. They understand the importance of greetings in the broad sense, which includes salutation (recognition of authority). They are naïve and born helpless with an unusual long time of development into self-sustained maturity (their full strength is not gained before some time, leaving them open to attacks from other hunting species).

Their naïvety allows them to believe in each other and form cause (the cause being "strength of unity"), which is why dogs can form "packs", but their ability to believe is also what makes them capable servants.

As for the understanding between human and dog, their emotion allows them to "stick" to us, and thereby focus their thoughts on us, and as such develop an intimate understanding of us. They are also quite patient and are good at ignoring us, or in other words they are quite capable of regulating their senses for their own pleasure, and talking about pleasure, one must mention that most dogs are wild about all sorts of pleasure, from delicious food to all sorts of sex and cuddling and massage, and their appetite makes them calm of heart and socially inclined.

So in many ways we share a lot of aspects about ourselves with the dogs. I think it's less important that dogs have a prominent tail than that humans and dogs both enjoy being massaged very much and are willing to pursue the source of pleasure (dogs, like humans, can be very persistent about being cuddled and massaged).

do dogs go to heaven.?i reckon they do.

The sad sight of religion entering a philosophy forum... Pretending I didn't see a religious reference there.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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