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Arising_uk wrote:
Bill Wiltrack wrote:...I'm thinkin, if Assad would kill his own people, he would not hesitate to kill you.
I thought you didn't have thoughts? Still, never mind.

I'm thinking that America would not hesitate to kill me if it was in its national interest. Apparently its not been in Assads to kill me but I guess after the bombing things will change if we join in and let you use our bases.

Let's hope we know where all the stockpiles are hidden but I doubt it.
Or me.
Definitely you after you launch your cruises.

One question, why was this not an issue for America when Iraq used chemical weapons upon the Iranians during the Iran/Iraq war?
but we have always been at war with Eastasia...

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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.Syria has the ability to deliver, weapons of mass destruction, chemical bombs, into Israel now.
Has had for a couple of decades I guess. Also knows that Israel has nukes and chemical weapons.
This in itself, is the threat of instability.
To who?
That's Okay, don't get your hands dirty. We'll take care of this.
You mean you and Israel. But then you don't actually mean 'you' do you, as you will not be the boots on the ground will you, your union feet will be in slippers back at home watching it on telly.

Do you have any idea where these chemical plants are? I doubt he's built them with health and safety in mind.

Do you understand what could happen if you drop a missile on them?

Love the euphemism "degrading".
Go back to bead now & enjoy your freedom.
Assad is not threatening my freedom.

Do you think when America had its civil war someone should have bombed the norths manufacturing plants?

Is "bead" a hippy freudian slip or is this just those pesky thoughts doing as they will?
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Pluto wrote:It is you Bill that is asleep, or rather awake and talking, but mind closed for summer. Your owners build constructs specially designed to make you talk the way you do. It is another black flag operation. If you cross red-line we come, we move red-line past you, we can come.
I think this fantasist conspiracy theory.

Its very likely that Assad's military did use chemical weapons as they have them. There is a small chance that the opposition did it as they too have taken a few from rebel bases.

I think it unlikely that any American secret services could be active in Syria.
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Using the two words 'conspiracy' and 'theory', together, as a way to dismiss is lazy and unthinking. It's more complex than that.
I think it unlikely that any American secret services could be active in Syria.
Why do you think it unlikely?
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Look, there is an unstable government, that for now, is being run by a ruler that has proven to have NO regard for life.

This country, Syria, is PRODUCING chemical weapons.


Weapons that include sarin which is the most deadly agent known to be used in weapons of mass destruction.


AND they are stockpiling sarin.



THIS IS ILLEGAL
on an international scale.



On top of that Assad IS NOW USING DEADLY CHEMICAL WEAPONS.




Israel is within shouting distance of Syria.





If none of this means anything to you - go back to sleep.



As I said before, we'll take care of it for you.




No sense for anyone else in the world to get their hands dirty...



This is a hell of a situation and America is going to pay dearly for this activity...now or in the near future if we do not act.



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Answer me this, of the almost 200 countries in the world, why is France the only one that supports Obama's desire to attack Syria? The answer, of course, is that Obama is a fucking idiot.
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Look, Barack Obama is, in my opinion, the best President this country has ever had the pleasure of electing...twice.

He is in a horrible position but he has made the decision that restricting Assad in some way would be beneficial to this entire country. I tend to agree with him. Only because he is extremely intelligent and he has an extremely wide view of history and a commitment to a dream that will hopefully benefit this country.





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If Obama is so intelligent, why would he even consider attacking Syria without Congressional approval, which on the face of it, is unconstitutional, and although he has supposedly taught the subject, has apparently never actually read the document.
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...um...he's actually doing that. Next week will be the vote.



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He felt forced into getting approval from Congress since everybody in the world is against him, as well they should be.
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"It should be noted that Obama, who was an early recruit as a CIA asset, is carrying out a CIA plan to overthrow the Assad family that dates back to 1984, a time during which Obama was working for a CIA front operation in New York called Business International Corporation". - See more at: http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/ ... Rq3zv.dpuf

http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/10763
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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
Look, there is an unstable government, that for now, is being run by a ruler that has proven to have NO regard for life.
The millions dead in the ME tend to show that American rulers also have scant regard.
And the US is producing biological weapons a thousand time worse, so what?
Weapons that include sarin which is the most deadly agent known to be used in weapons of mass destruction.
Nah! Bio-weapons are many times worse as are nukes. You also forget that the US uses radiation weapons, i.e. depleted uranium that right now are disabling children in Iraq and Afghanistan.
AND they are stockpiling sarin.
THIS IS ILLEGAL on an international scale.
Not if you haven't signed the Chemical Weapons agreement it isn't and Syria has not done so.

I'd be careful about using the 'international card' as the US has trodden all over this in the last couple of decades.
On top of that Assad IS NOW USING DEADLY CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
This is terrible. Do you think he should have used non-lethal ones?
Israel is within shouting distance of Syria.
And has been for the last couple of decades of Assad having these weapons. Do you know why its been ignored? Because then a blind eye can be turned to Israel's illegal holding of nukes and chemical weapons.

Although I'll give you that if we start missile strikes and eventually attack then Israel has a right to be worried as I guess Assad will start to hand them over to Hezbollah, et al.
If none of this means anything to you - go back to sleep.
I long-ago learnt to sleep despite the inequities of the world. Not least as a child when you and the soviets took us to the brink of annihilation. I sleep despite knowing that the US and Russia are developing bio-weapons and still have large piles of nukes and that the US still refuses to allow its chemical weapons to be internationally inspected.
As I said before, we'll take care of it for you.
Nah! As ever you'll be doing it in your national interest and dressing it up as morality.
No sense for anyone else in the world to get their hands dirty...
Well, since yours are so black already.
This is a hell of a situation and America is going to pay dearly for this activity...now or in the near future if we do not act.
How? Syria is the last of the secular dictatorships and had no intention of attacking America.
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Spare me your emotive bullshit. I could wallpaper my room with the deaths of children by American actions.
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Yesterday Bashar al-Assad did an about -face and admitted he used chemical weapons.


This thing ain't over.



The Russian/Syrian agreement for inspections will fall apart. THEN President Barack Obama will obtain congressional approval and we will see what justice looks like when wielded from the oldest existing Democracy the world has ever known.



Someone has to have the balls to stand-up to dictators
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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.Yesterday Bashar al-Assad did an about -face and admitted he used chemical weapons.
No, he didn't. What he said was that he's willing to allow international inspection and control of his weapons.

Do you think America will allow this in your country anytime soon?
This thing ain't over.
Of course it isn't as America wishes to do the Saudis work as it complies with their end-time beliefs about Israel.
The Russian/Syrian agreement for inspections will fall apart. THEN President Barack Obama will obtain congressional approval and we will see what justice looks like when wielded from the oldest existing Democracy the world has ever known.
False, nowhere near the oldest existing democracy in the world. You live in a world of delusion.
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Waiting to hear a coherent plan that does not end up like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Funny how you support and stand-up to only those dictators that meet your national interest.
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