Does This Make Sense?

[Arising_uk]

It's arbitrary, fool, as sometimes green is just green! But sometimes it's all about pushing buttons.

Fair enough. Still a mess to these eyes tho'.

This thread is about killing for the sake of money, ...

No, thats what you'd like it to be about as you have a thing about money but this thread was about whether there is any sense in killing the rhino and like it or not there is a sense to be made of such an act.

that which signals our end, ...

No idea what this is supposed to mean?

apartheid, are you kidding me?

Why would I be kidding you about such a thing?

I've sent money, I never said it was a constant stream. What was done with it at that time, was out of my hands, but it's true that all the time one can hear about misappropriation of funding, or that hind-sights 20/20. So what's the point? We do what we can, when we can.

True but you appeared to advocate continuing to do so?

No it's not!

Yes it is.

Money is an illusion.

Not really, it was just the solution to the problems of barter.

You don't know what my approach is.

Feel free to explain. I may well agree.

No one gives anything to a thief, do you really need me to post the definition of thief? Are you really that stupid?

In the case of aid it looks like we do give it to the thieves, knowing full well they are such.

You still don't get it.

Get what? You posted figures about aid and I made calculations regarding them.

Now you kinda do, but obviously failed to pay attention to my original claim, just like you.

Did I dispute that the USA donates the most food aid? No. I just pointed out that such stuff appears to do little and that there are better ways to help the hungry.

"...anything you don't agree with is labelled...," your characterization, as if you could know my motivation, hence a lie, as you assumed incorrectly!

It's got bugger all to do with psychology and motivation, it's an observation of your behaviour and actions upon this forum.

I don't think you can keep track contextually, but we've talked about this before.

You think incorrectly then as my way it's easy to track back and check the context. As I've pointed out to you the only difference between our approaches is that you quote two lines rather than one but still the same method.

We each do what we can, to fix others lives, amidst conducting our own lives. Take your own advise, as it's the only one it can serve!

I do. What I don't do is not attempt to understand the reasons why others act as they do and just write them off as 'murderers' or 'evil'. I also try not to promote failing policies.

Stupid ill spent humor of a clown!

You sound like an utter fool, as one can work for a DOD and not contribute to killing, rather saving lives. Your characterization is shallow, and ignorant. Your view can also include you, as I have already mentioned, that you've conveniently ignored; par for your limited course. [/quote]Whatever helps you sleep. It's that I do acknowledge what my MOD is for that I perfectly understand my culpability in such matters. It's why I don't have a moral hang-up about it.

Incorrect, different reasons, different solutions, different spheres of influence.

A license you don't appear to allow to apply to others?

Wrong!

Which is why you'll be living in the present past.

Now you got it, or is it just because you lost track again?

No, it was a straight corollary of what I said.

OK, then I would hope for some change, that efficient money can afford.

So money is now useful!?

Yep, and some are not! Some can have experience and knowledge, and still be wrong, or vice versa. Or any other permutation, like self interest, etc.

but they'll be wrong for a reason and given they have reasons it's likely that they'll be able to understand and change their opinions. The others will have no such recourse and will therefore stick by them no matter what.

My point, was that you felt you had to exaggerate to save face, as if it matters either way, which countries done more. Obviously a product of your assertion that it's not the solution, or so you claim. You failed to understand that I was not the policy maker, just the money backer. I was putting my contribution into perspective, or rather those like me. We have fed many people, any program must be refined, but that's not my job.

See what I mean? I pointed out to you that in the scale of things you've fed bugger all people and yet you still think the approach is viable.

Show me where I exaggerated anything? I just pointed out Europe's contribution to this policy and what I could find of the figures with respect to the UK's. That I think it as pointless a policy as the US's is my opinion.

And I wonder why? coincidence, "Arising_uk??"

Wonder not. It's because I couldn't find the breakdown on goggle. Mainly I presume because the UK appears to be part of the EU effort.

I have no policies, I have only ever given money that back the policies, that you would want to be one that has a hand in the policies is admirable, do it!

I'm trying at the moment. Does it not worry you that if you have no policies you might be giving money towards bad ones?

I told you I don't like money, but as with all, I'm forced to play this silly game, of yours.

Wasting emotions on inert objects appears fruitless.

[SpheresOfBalance]

It's arbitrary, fool, as sometimes green is just green! But sometimes it's all about pushing buttons.

Fair enough. Still a mess to these eyes tho'.
So it's subjective, which is in fact my point, so why make a fuss about something as such, do you really feel that everyone must cater to your relative whims? Oh I forgot, of course you do, as evidenced by your dealings with Bill, Bob, Godfree, me, as well as others that you feel don't stack up to your particular subjective sense of normal/right. Can you say megalomania?

This thread is about killing for the sake of money, ...

No, thats what you'd like it to be about as you have a thing about money but this thread was about whether there is any sense in killing the rhino and like it or not there is a sense to be made of such an act.
Nope, I guess you missed the elephants, another testament to you not paying attention, and just spitting out arbitrary words that are supposed to contain legitimate cohesive thoughts, that are on topic. If you had said pachyderms you would have nailed it. Though Bill, the OP, has also brought up apes in the past, different thread, same argument. It would seem you're incapable of summing things up; no surprise!

that which signals our end, ...

No idea what this is supposed to mean?
Already been covered, so you either pretend or can't keep up, either way, you loose!

apartheid, are you kidding me?

Why would I be kidding you about such a thing?
Not on topic, you can't have it both ways sweetheart!

I've sent money, I never said it was a constant stream. What was done with it at that time, was out of my hands, but it's true that all the time one can hear about misappropriation of funding, or that hind-sights 20/20. So what's the point? We do what we can, when we can.

True but you appeared to advocate continuing to do so?
Only in your mind, of constant assumption, so as to stroke yourself, while characterizing your opponent falsely (lying), a flimsy means to win anything of any true value. Originally, only me pointing out that I have done something, though it's not surprising you can't keep track, as you have so many reasons, that are meant to only suit you, at any cost.

No it's not!

Yes it is.
Not quite!

Money is an illusion.

Not really, it was just the solution to the problems of barter.
No real solution, appeasing the monkeys-boys, many side effects that hurt the truly intelligent, that care not for monkey-boy mentality.

You don't know what my approach is.

Feel free to explain. I may well agree.
I already told you I hate to either follow or lead, as in following fools, or being one in the leading. As I've said before "all" aspects of humanity should be lead by a huge round table of all fields of serious study, where only PhD's are members, with votes as to proper course, are followed until new data, begs a new vote. And I mean ALL aspects, there's no room for foolish monarchs or politicians where they have any ultimate dominion, only this round table of PhD's can steer the proper course for humanity, and that's a FACT!!!!!!.

No one gives anything to a thief, do you really need me to post the definition of thief? Are you really that stupid?

In the case of aid it looks like we do give it to the thieves, knowing full well they are such.
We? Is there a mouse in your pocket? Please speak only for yourself in areas that you can only do so, with any amount of certainty.

You still don't get it.

Get what?
I thought you kept track by looking back, don't blame me because your method comes up lacking, such that you forget, if you care to respond look it up, I'll not do your work.

You posted figures about aid and I made calculations regarding them.
So I gotta spell it out for you, sheesh, go figure! Mine had dates of data gathering attached, then you come along and compare apples (different year) with my oranges (different year), sheesh, you can appear quite dense sometimes. There were other fruits, you threw in as well, such that your argument fell flat on it's face. Keep up please, or don't respond to that which you have no clue. You would be a half-assed research assistant. Where's that education, that enables you to TELL the God-free the way it is?

Now you kinda do, but obviously failed to pay attention to my original claim, just like you.

Did I dispute that the USA donates the most food aid? No. I just pointed out that such stuff appears to do little and that there are better ways to help the hungry.
You're right, let us let them starve to death, until your half baked plan can be accepted as predominate and implemented. What? Are you kidding me? Money for food is obviously a quick fix until such time, that a real plan, that's self sustaining, is put into perpetual motion. Get busy, you that would love to be a part of the solutions finer details. Though I don't believe you have a PhD, "next applicant, please!"

"...anything you don't agree with is labelled...," your characterization, as if you could know my motivation, hence a lie, as you assumed incorrectly!

It's got bugger all to do with psychology and motivation, it's an observation of your behaviour and actions upon this forum.
Bull shit, your dumb ass sees a single page, and believes you've read the entire encyclopedia set, and then proceeds to sum it up, via a reflection of your minds eye, a fools game if ever there was one. Such that what you meant to say, where it contains any truth, was that, "seemingly, we disagree on a great many things," as you cannot possibly know why it's the case, as if it's some silly whim of mine, as if you could know that. There is a method, to what you see as my madness, despite you're not understanding it. Though it would seem that you prefer to TELL someone what it is that they mean, as surly it's only contained in your mind, that you impart via your response, a crazy fuck idea, if ever there was one. It's more customary to ask, before you tell someone 'why' they disagree.

I don't think you can keep track contextually, but we've talked about this before.

You think incorrectly then as my way it's easy to track back and check the context. As I've pointed out to you the only difference between our approaches is that you quote two lines rather than one but still the same method.
Actually my way has the potential to go as deep (as far back) as possible, it just takes a lot more work, that you try and eliminate. I understand! But I see that it makes things harder to follow, in the LONG run. It's true that it's at server space expense, I'll grant you that much. though text is small, as compared to graphics, hear that Bill. Actually Bill doesn't use server space for his pics, as they are just links. Just felt like giving him the crap he enjoys reading, so he'll post another one, just for spite.

We each do what we can, to fix others lives, amidst conducting our own lives. Take your own advise, as it's the only one it can serve!

I do. What I don't do is not attempt to understand the reasons why others act as they do and just write them off as 'murderers' or 'evil'. I also try not to promote failing policies.
You just did, where you tried to trivialize my reasons for disagreeing, we all do this to some extent, the difference between you and I though is that I at least use evidence that you provide here, as I know you no other way, while you, I believe, find similarities between me and others you've encountered, and assume that all our reasoning, is the same, or so it would surely seem, because you're wrong more often than not.

Oh and they are murderers, as they cause extinction, including themselves, yet they do not know this. They will though, that's for sure.

The lessons learned through not, also slows their own ultimate demise, something apparently above your head, as you've admittedly not gotten it, up higher in this this message, for instance.

Stupid ill spent humor of a clown!

You sound like an utter fool, as one can work for a DOD and not contribute to killing, rather saving lives. Your characterization is shallow, and ignorant. Your view can also include you, as I have already mentioned, that you've conveniently ignored; par for your limited course.

Whatever helps you sleep. It's that I do acknowledge what my MOD is for that I perfectly understand my culpability in such matters. It's why I don't have a moral hang-up about it.
What ever suits your selfish needs. You see, as I've already said in this forum, in other threads, the last good war that the US was involved in, was WWII. That there were two quotes that were coined in that time that spells out what I mean. One was an American and the other an Englishman. The American said that the US should 'walk softly and carry a big stick,' while the Englishman said that he was afraid that they had, "awoken a sleeping giant;" the US. In both quotes, I see the ONLY way that the US should carry itself, then I could feel no guilt, but this is not the case. You've had me all wrong from the beginning, par for your course, as I've said. You think me a mindless yank. You are wrong, I hate the US most for not always being the leader, in everything, where the self interests of money don't trump what's morally right. I am not a person of any country, I am a person of the earth, the one singular organism, the symbiosis, that is ALL life on this planet, and I judge any constituent accordingly, I don't give a fuck who they are. The only thing important to me is the singular organisms health.

Incorrect, different reasons, different solutions, different spheres of influence.

A license you don't appear to allow to apply to others?
Thanks for "appear," it is a moment of your truth in conflict, an impartial statement, where you admittedly cannot know, giving the benefit of doubt, where I sense you'd like me to clarify, so as you may know, and I thank you for these brief moments where you are honest and fair. As I said above, I don't give a fuck who you are, I only care about the one organism, that is the symbiosis, earth! Because, where it's multitudes of spheres that balance are destabilized, it shall all surely die.

Wrong!

Which is why you'll be living in the present past.
Two few words to remember what we're talking about, so I'll skip this one, I've already spent hours on this message, don't feel like opening another window to check. Refresh my memory if you care to, otherwise...

Now you got it, or is it just because you lost track again?

No, it was a straight corollary of what I said.
Same as above, just too lazy, all this has been replied to from memory, care not to look it up, need to get some things done today.

OK, then I would hope for some change, that efficient money can afford.

So money is now useful!?
I was calling you out, with your solution, being somewhat sarcastic, as I see the mess as requiring a MAJOR revision. Where money has no meaning. You and I both know that humanity, any time soon, can't see their way to relinquish their illusory wealth, even though it's not to be found in a glittering prize, as most are still monkey-boys. Intelligent, my ass!!!!

Yep, and some are not! Some can have experience and knowledge, and still be wrong, or vice versa. Or any other permutation, like self interest, etc.

but they'll be wrong for a reason and given they have reasons it's likely that they'll be able to understand and change their opinions. The others will have no such recourse and will therefore stick by them no matter what.
Change, is not something humanity likes, unless they can see their profit in it, and even then, they hate unknown territory, and allow it to fall through the cracks of habitual nominalism (my word, not medieval philosophy, just the status quo of being nominal).

My point, was that you felt you had to exaggerate to save face, as if it matters either way, which countries done more. Obviously a product of your assertion that it's not the solution, or so you claim. You failed to understand that I was not the policy maker, just the money backer. I was putting my contribution into perspective, or rather those like me. We have fed many people, any program must be refined, but that's not my job.

See what I mean? I pointed out to you that in the scale of things you've fed bugger all people and yet you still think the approach is viable.
Bullshit, some help is better than none. Only a fool sees that their method is better, while not being instituted, while that which has been, does some good. All or nothing for you? A fools game!


Show me where I exaggerated anything? I just pointed out Europe's contribution to this policy and what I could find of the figures with respect to the UK's. That I think it as pointless a policy as the US's is my opinion.
Why argue it then. Because I pegged you correctly, you are a country elitist, "Arising_uk," as evidenced by this response of yours and your constant engaging Bob with similar country oriented bullshit. We are a planet I tell you, you can take your colorful rags and burn them for all I care, stick them up your ass, that's a good idea, as your pride it them side steps the real issues of the world. The only us and them are the good guys and the bad guys, which know no territorially lines. The good are for the one organism, and the bad are monkey-boys, still arguing on who gets the biggest slice, oblivious to their would crumbling around them..

And I wonder why? coincidence, "Arising_uk??"

Wonder not. It's because I couldn't find the breakdown on goggle. Mainly I presume because the UK appears to be part of the EU effort.
Look, if you feel like not engaging me on any particular point until you do more research, so be it. It is always hard to engage another's obscure statistics, as their counter may not even be available. I would hope I would not be childish enough, to rub ones inability to find opposing data, in their face, as if it could be seen as some sort of shallow victory.

I have no policies, I have only ever given money that back the policies, that you would want to be one that has a hand in the policies is admirable, do it!

I'm trying at the moment. Does it not worry you that if you have no policies you might be giving money towards bad ones?
Sure but what is trust for? My "major" concern when giving to charities, was to ensure that the majority of the money actually went to the aid and not to paying those, supposedly, ensuring people are actually helped. So that is the research I undertook. I found those whose overhead was slight in contrast to their affect as to the cause. Again, we all balance our own lives against helping others to varying degrees, as capable in the time allotted. Who doesn't wish they were omnipresent and omnipotent?

I told you I don't like money, but as with all, I'm forced to play this silly game, of yours.

Wasting emotions on inert objects appears fruitless.
So you say! I live in my head, or at least I'd like to live there, with at least, some sense of ease. Does it then translate to the reality that I'm forced to live with, NO!!!! But If I don't try, nothing will ever change, now will it? All I can do, with such a thing, that everyone "buys" into, to suit their own needs, and wants/desires, as it's what was presented to them at birth, knowing no other way, is to get them to think about other possibilities, where everyone really cares for one another, "and you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the world will live as one." No need to tell you who wrote that, I would hope, one of my hero's! Yours? Probably not! Or so it would seem.[/quote]

[Arising_uk]

So it's subjective, which is in fact my point, so why make a fuss about something as such, do you really feel that everyone must cater to your relative whims? Oh I forgot, of course you do, as evidenced by your dealings with Bill, Bob, Godfree, me, as well as others that you feel don't stack up to your particular subjective sense of normal/right. Can you say megalomania?

I can, can you say paranoid nutjob?

Nope, I guess you missed the elephants, another testament to you not paying attention, and just spitting out arbitrary words that are supposed to contain legitimate cohesive thoughts, that are on topic. If you had said pachyderms you would have nailed it. Though Bill, the OP, has also brought up apes in the past, different thread, same argument. It would seem you're incapable of summing things up; no surprise!

Once again you avoid the issue as it's clear the the question was, 'does this make sense' and whether you like it or not, it does. And the sense it makes is that these animals are worth a fortune to those hungry you care so much about.

Already been covered, so you either pretend or can't keep up, either way, you loose!

Ah! you're on about your end-of-times again.

Not on topic, you can't have it both ways sweetheart!

What are you burbling about now? You asked me what it was that I marched, demonstrated and successfully protested for and I told you.

Only in your mind, of constant assumption, so as to stroke yourself, while characterizing your opponent falsely (lying), a flimsy means to win anything of any true value. Originally, only me pointing out that I have done something, though it's not surprising you can't keep track, as you have so many reasons, that are meant to only suit you, at any cost.

My apologies, so you now agree with me that the policy you previously followed is wrong and should not be continued?

Not quite!

Yes, quite.

No real solution, appeasing the monkeys-boys, many side effects that hurt the truly intelligent, that care not for monkey-boy mentality.

So now we have others as 'monkey-boys' do we? Money was and is a very real solution to the problems that barter faces when scaled-up.

I already told you I hate to either follow or lead, as in following fools, or being one in the leading. As I've said before "all" aspects of humanity should be lead by a huge round table of all fields of serious study, where only PhD's are members, with votes as to proper course, are followed until new data, begs a new vote. And I mean ALL aspects, there's no room for foolish monarchs or politicians where they have any ultimate dominion, only this round table of PhD's can steer the proper course for humanity, and that's a FACT!!!!!!.

So whilst you castigate academics you appear to also wish to hand over the running of things to them!? You basically want a technocracy which is more than ironic given your thoughts about elitism.

We? Is there a mouse in your pocket? Please speak only for yourself in areas that you can only do so, with any amount of certainty.

I am, that's why I do not give to food charities any more and advocate free-trade rather than conditional aid.

I thought you kept track by looking back, don't blame me because your method comes up lacking, such that you forget, if you care to respond look it up, I'll not do your work.

Three to four years makes little difference in such matters. The calculations I made about how many your policy has helped was based upon your figures.

So I gotta spell it out for you, sheesh, go figure! Mine had dates of data gathering attached, then you come along and compare apples (different year) with my oranges (different year), sheesh, you can appear quite dense sometimes. There were other fruits, you threw in as well, such that your argument fell flat on it's face. Keep up please, or don't respond to that which you have no clue. You would be a half-assed research assistant. Where's that education, that enables you to TELL the God-free the way it is?

It's on the bit of paper that says I've studied Philosophy to an acceptable level of education, as that was what I was talking to godfree about when he asked my why I thought I could say what I did. I used your figures to calculate how many hungry people your policy has actually helped.

You're right, let us let them starve to death, until your half baked plan can be accepted as predominate and implemented. What? Are you kidding me? Money for food is obviously a quick fix until such time, that a real plan, that's self sustaining, is put into perpetual motion. Get busy, you that would love to be a part of the solutions finer details. Though I don't believe you have a PhD, "next applicant, please!"

I did not say I have a Phd, I've said I have a B.A.(Hons), an MSc and a PGCE.

It's not a half-baked plan and ironically enough it's been proposed by many Phd's.

You're not giving money for food, you're giving food.

Bull shit, your dumb ass sees a single page, and believes you've read the entire encyclopedia set, and then proceeds to sum it up, via a reflection of your minds eye, a fools game if ever there was one. Such that what you meant to say, where it contains any truth, was that, "seemingly, we disagree on a great many things," as you cannot possibly know why it's the case, as if it's some silly whim of mine, as if you could know that. There is a method, to what you see as my madness, despite you're not understanding it. Though it would seem that you prefer to TELL someone what it is that they mean, as surly it's only contained in your mind, that you impart via your response, a crazy fuck idea, if ever there was one. It's more customary to ask, before you tell someone 'why' they disagree.

What are you burbling about now!? You have called me a liar many times because you disagree with my response, i.e. it doesn't fit whatever psycho-babble you believe in. It's this behaviour I refer too.

Actually my way has the potential to go as deep (as far back) as possible, it just takes a lot more work, that you try and eliminate. I understand! But I see that it makes things harder to follow, in the LONG run. It's true that it's at server space expense, I'll grant you that much. though text is small, as compared to graphics, hear that Bill. Actually Bill doesn't use server space for his pics, as they are just links. Just felt like giving him the crap he enjoys reading, so he'll post another one, just for spite.

What are you talking about, I have done nothing to 'eliminate' your approach. It's you who have abandoned your original style as, I guess, you and your interlocutors soon discovered that it becomes difficult to quickly identify the replies.

Bill's approach uses bandwidth which I know to my economic cost.

You just did, where you tried to trivialize my reasons for disagreeing, we all do this to some extent, the difference between you and I though is that I at least use evidence that you provide here, as I know you no other way, while you, I believe, find similarities between me and others you've encountered, and assume that all our reasoning, is the same, or so it would surely seem, because you're wrong more often than not.

Nope, I put my opinion forward about what you say and propose. I do not trivialise your reasons, I point out where and why I think them lacking the ability to achieve what you claim to wish.

Oh and they are murderers, as they cause extinction, including themselves, yet they do not know this. They will though, that's for sure.

More end-of-time gnomic predictions.

The lessons learned through not, also slows their own ultimate demise, something apparently above your head, as you've admittedly not gotten it, up higher in this this message, for instance. [/color]

We're all going to die so unless you think these 'others' are going to die from these events within the next few decades then I think you're cries will fall upon deaf ears. What is needed is concrete policies to help these peoples economic conditions now.

What ever suits your selfish needs. You see, as I've already said in this forum, in other threads, the last good war that the US was involved in, was WWII. ...

lmao! One that the US only entered due to their own selfish needs, i.e. power in the Pacific. Otherwise the US would have carried on trading with the Nazi quite happily.

That there were two quotes that were coined in that time that spells out what I mean. One was an American and the other an Englishman. The American said that the US should 'walk softly and carry a big stick,' while the Englishman said that he was afraid that they had, "awoken a sleeping giant;" the US. ...

It was a Japanese admiral who said the latter. The former pretty much expresses the policy that the US had towards the Nazi and if Jap had not attacked you you'd still have been walking softly.

In both quotes, I see the ONLY way that the US should carry itself, then I could feel no guilt, but this is not the case. You've had me all wrong from the beginning, par for your course, as I've said. You think me a mindless yank. You are wrong, I hate the US most for not always being the leader, in everything, where the self interests of money don't trump what's morally right. I am not a person of any country, I am a person of the earth, the one singular organism, the symbiosis, that is ALL life on this planet, and I judge any constituent accordingly, I don't give a fuck who they are. The only thing important to me is the singular organisms health.

I don't think you a mindless yank, I think you an example of a certain type of Yank who oft visits this forum when you try to categorise me by gender and deride academic endeavour such as to enable you to belittle anothers thoughts.

Whilst I like the sentiment I think it ignores the conditions. All life on this planet pretty much eats the one below. All the organisms together do not make one singular organism.

Thanks for "appear," it is a moment of your truth in conflict, an impartial statement, where you admittedly cannot know, giving the benefit of doubt, where I sense you'd like me to clarify, so as you may know, and I thank you for these brief moments where you are honest and fair. As I said above, I don't give a fuck who you are, I only care about the one organism, that is the symbiosis, earth! Because, where it's multitudes of spheres that balance are destabilized, it shall all surely die.

So you now understand why the poacher does what he does and understand that it's economics?

Two few words to remember what we're talking about, so I'll skip this one, I've already spent hours on this message, don't feel like opening another window to check. Refresh my memory if you care to, otherwise...

You don't think the mind is a time-machine with respect to present behaviour.

Same as above, just too lazy, all this has been replied to from memory, care not to look it up, need to get some things done today.

How you act today based upon past events can be changed by the time-machine that is the mind.

I was calling you out, with your solution, being somewhat sarcastic, as I see the mess as requiring a MAJOR revision. Where money has no meaning. You and I both know that humanity, any time soon, can't see their way to relinquish their illusory wealth, even though it's not to be found in a glittering prize, as most are still monkey-boys. Intelligent, my ass!!!!

Driven by circumstance!! The gains in health, wealth and education have not been illusory. And like it or not.compared to all the other systems it's been the capitalist system that has provided the greatest advances for the many.

Change, is not something humanity likes, unless they can see their profit in it, and even then, they hate unknown territory, and allow it to fall through the cracks of habitual nominalism (my word, not medieval philosophy, just the status quo of being nominal).

Humanity is change and it's if they can see an advantage in it not just a profit.

Bullshit, some help is better than none. Only a fool sees that their method is better, while not being instituted, while that which has been, does some good. All or nothing for you? A fools game!

A winners game.

Why argue it then. Because I pegged you correctly, you are a country elitist, "Arising_uk," as evidenced by this response of yours and your constant engaging Bob with similar country oriented bullshit. ...

I've already told you twice now about how I came by my nik.

My response was to your acclamation of the US's food contributions. Pots and kettles methinks.

We are a planet I tell you, you can take your colorful rags and burn them for all I care, stick them up your ass, that's a good idea, as your pride it them side steps the real issues of the world. The only us and them are the good guys and the bad guys, which know no territorially lines. The good are for the one organism, and the bad are monkey-boys, still arguing on who gets the biggest slice, oblivious to their would crumbling around them.

We are not a planet, at best we are a part of a biosphere which is a small smear upon the planet. The planet was here long before and will be here long after this current biosphere ceases to exist. This planet has had several ice-planet stages and presumably several biospheres and if we fuck this one up for us it'll still have a biosphere without us as life evolves. The real issue of the 'world' is exactly what you display, us and them. All you are doing is taking the same territorially and making it abstract.

Look, if you feel like not engaging me on any particular point until you do more research, so be it. It is always hard to engage another's obscure statistics, as their counter may not even be available. I would hope I would not be childish enough, to rub ones inability to find opposing data, in their face, as if it could be seen as some sort of shallow victory.

Goggle is free to all(well maybe not the Chinese).

Sure but what is trust for? My "major" concern when giving to charities, was to ensure that the majority of the money actually went to the aid and not to paying those, supposedly, ensuring people are actually helped. So that is the research I undertook. I found those whose overhead was slight in contrast to their affect as to the cause. Again, we all balance our own lives against helping others to varying degrees, as capable in the time allotted. Who doesn't wish they were omnipresent and omnipotent?

Admirable but you were talking about food aid I thought? if you are talking about money to the WWF then I'll return to the issue that these animals still appear to be going extinct as it's the economics of poverty and no amount of money will be able to match the value the market is putting upon these creatures. So if you want them around for the future then you'd better start promoting a better market for them.

So you say! I live in my head, or at least I'd like to live there, with at least, some sense of ease. Does it then translate to the reality that I'm forced to live with, NO!!!! But If I don't try, nothing will ever change, now will it? All I can do, with such a thing, that everyone "buys" into, to suit their own needs, and wants/desires, as it's what was presented to them at birth, knowing no other way, is to get them to think about other possibilities, where everyone really cares for one another, "and you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the world will live as one." No need to tell you who wrote that, I would hope, one of my hero's! Yours? Probably not! Or so it would seem.

Loved the Beatles and thought him an idiot for going to live in America but his tax-accountants told him to and look where that got him.

You want to teach the world to sing? Give them a living so they have a chance to sing. Otherwise it's all hippy dreams.

[Hjarloprillar]

Arising, i thought you the man but you seam sob's biatch.

did your testicles 'fall off"

huge posts of SHIT

[Arising_uk]

Arising, i thought you the man but you seam sob's biatch.

did your testicles 'fall off"

huge posts of SHIT

How Yank of you.

Care to say something about the thread point or why what I said was shit?

Otherwise I give two tosses about your opinion as I'm here to chat not to be someones butch daddy.

[SpheresOfBalance]

So it's subjective, which is in fact my point, so why make a fuss about something as such, do you really feel that everyone must cater to your relative whims? Oh I forgot, of course you do, as evidenced by your dealings with Bill, Bob, Godfree, me, as well as others that you feel don't stack up to your particular subjective sense of normal/right. Can you say megalomania?

I can, can you say paranoid nutjob?
Your visions of grandeur yet again!

Nope, I guess you missed the elephants, another testament to you not paying attention, and just spitting out arbitrary words that are supposed to contain legitimate cohesive thoughts, that are on topic. If you had said pachyderms you would have nailed it. Though Bill, the OP, has also brought up apes in the past, different thread, same argument. It would seem you're incapable of summing things up; no surprise!

Once again you avoid the issue as it's clear the the question was, 'does this make sense' and whether you like it or not, it does. And the sense it makes is that these animals are worth a fortune to those hungry you care so much about.
No it doesn't, as it's not the solution, actually only speeding up their demise, though neither you nor them, are smart enough to understand.

Already been covered, so you either pretend or can't keep up, either way, you loose!

Ah! you're on about your end-of-times again.
The only thing to consider in these times, It's never not been about that.

Not on topic, you can't have it both ways sweetheart!

What are you burbling about now? You asked me what it was that I marched, demonstrated and successfully protested for and I told you.
No I didn't, your assumption, as usual, you making my meaning your projection. I was only ever speaking of on topic material, the animals, not your unrelated charity.

Only in your mind, of constant assumption, so as to stroke yourself, while characterizing your opponent falsely (lying), a flimsy means to win anything of any true value. Originally, only me pointing out that I have done something, though it's not surprising you can't keep track, as you have so many reasons, that are meant to only suit you, at any cost.

My apologies, so you now agree with me that the policy you previously followed is wrong and should not be continued?
Never said I agreed with anyone, whose ever idea it really ever was. Doubt it was yours. I have always said the exact same thing, while your understanding is the only thing changing.

Not quite!

Yes, quite.
You couldn't be more wrong!

No real solution, appeasing the monkeys-boys, many side effects that hurt the truly intelligent, that care not for monkey-boy mentality.

So now we have others as 'monkey-boys' do we? Money was and is a very real solution to the problems that barter faces when scaled-up.
Always been that way, where have you been? Money has never been the solution to mans problems, rather the causal of most.

I already told you I hate to either follow or lead, as in following fools, or being one in the leading. As I've said before "all" aspects of humanity should be lead by a huge round table of all fields of serious study, where only PhD's are members, with votes as to proper course, are followed until new data, begs a new vote. And I mean ALL aspects, there's no room for foolish monarchs or politicians where they have any ultimate dominion, only this round table of PhD's can steer the proper course for humanity, and that's a FACT!!!!!!.

So whilst you castigate academics you appear to also wish to hand over the running of things to them!? You basically want a technocracy which is more than ironic given your thoughts about elitism.
As to castigation, your mind only; never said anything about a technocracy; as to elitism, it's an attitude!

We? Is there a mouse in your pocket? Please speak only for yourself in areas that you can only do so, with any amount of certainty.

I am, that's why I do not give to food charities any more and advocate free-trade rather than conditional aid.
You said "We" Gawd, what is wrong with you, do not include me or anyone else in your exclusive delusions. It makes your statement FALSE.

I thought you kept track by looking back, don't blame me because your method comes up lacking, such that you forget, if you care to respond look it up, I'll not do your work.

Three to four years makes little difference in such matters. The calculations I made about how many your policy has helped was based upon your figures.
Never mind, you've totally lost it.

So I gotta spell it out for you, sheesh, go figure! Mine had dates of data gathering attached, then you come along and compare apples (different year) with my oranges (different year), sheesh, you can appear quite dense sometimes. There were other fruits, you threw in as well, such that your argument fell flat on it's face. Keep up please, or don't respond to that which you have no clue. You would be a half-assed research assistant. Where's that education, that enables you to TELL the God-free the way it is?

It's on the bit of paper that says I've studied Philosophy to an acceptable level of education, as that was what I was talking to godfree about when he asked my why I thought I could say what I did. I used your figures to calculate how many hungry people your policy has actually helped.
Not at all, you compared different numbers of different years, which cannot give any significant understanding, as populations, those fed and those unfed do grow, and not necessarily proportionally, so your point fails

You're right, let us let them starve to death, until your half baked plan can be accepted as predominate and implemented. What? Are you kidding me? Money for food is obviously a quick fix until such time, that a real plan, that's self sustaining, is put into perpetual motion. Get busy, you that would love to be a part of the solutions finer details. Though I don't believe you have a PhD, "next applicant, please!"

I did not say I have a Phd, I've said I have a B.A.(Hons), an MSc and a PGCE.
Sure avoid the meat and potatoes, and address the napkin instead, surely a beaten foe if ever there was one.

It's not a half-baked plan and ironically enough it's been proposed by many Phd's.
Is it in practice? NO? Then shut up, as you missed the point.

You're not giving money for food, you're giving food.
Makes no difference. Here I won't send you any food until you receive my check, sure it's in the mail, I promise! You might have to wait for a month or two.

Bull shit, your dumb ass sees a single page, and believes you've read the entire encyclopedia set, and then proceeds to sum it up, via a reflection of your minds eye, a fools game if ever there was one. Such that what you meant to say, where it contains any truth, was that, "seemingly, we disagree on a great many things," as you cannot possibly know why it's the case, as if it's some silly whim of mine, as if you could know that. There is a method, to what you see as my madness, despite you're not understanding it. Though it would seem that you prefer to TELL someone what it is that they mean, as surly it's only contained in your mind, that you impart via your response, a crazy fuck idea, if ever there was one. It's more customary to ask, before you tell someone 'why' they disagree.

What are you burbling about now!? You have called me a liar many times because you disagree with my response, i.e. it doesn't fit whatever psycho-babble you believe in. It's this behaviour I refer too.
Wrong again, you're the psycho, as you projected onto my meaning yet again, as you believe that it only exists in your flawed mind. So my question is, "when are you going to get real?" I have NEVER called you a liar as to your thoughts on the topic at hand, ONLY EVER as you tell me about me. You cannot categorize me, as I am not like anyone you’ve ever met. I have spent my life, ever on the outside looking in, because I saw how those on the inside lived in a fantasy world of lies and deception, always eager to smile the facade, so as not to be found out as the confused self serving liars that they were. Sure I’ve been had by a few, and in that process found that very few indeed are even worth considering, yet I cry for all of them when they ail.

Actually my way has the potential to go as deep (as far back) as possible, it just takes a lot more work, that you try and eliminate. I understand! But I see that it makes things harder to follow, in the LONG run. It's true that it's at server space expense, I'll grant you that much. though text is small, as compared to graphics, hear that Bill. Actually Bill doesn't use server space for his pics, as they are just links. Just felt like giving him the crap he enjoys reading, so he'll post another one, just for spite.

What are you talking about, I have done nothing to 'eliminate' your approach. It's you who have abandoned your original style as, I guess, you and your interlocutors soon discovered that it becomes difficult to quickly identify the replies.
Quit guessing, as it's usually incorrect, or at least the majority of the time. My style is excluded with your cutting previous messages, what are you talking about?

Bill's approach uses bandwidth which I know to my economic cost.
Bollocks, how so? Links cost no more than text. Rick knows no increase in bandwidth due to Bills pics, as Bill stores none on his server/s. If in the UK you pay by bandwidth then it would, if you allowed the pics to be displayed, but most browsers allow you to turn off pics being displayed automatically, thus no bandwidth. If you pay, it's your fault, not Bills. My bandwidth is not metered. I pay one price for continuous, unlimited bandwidth, other than the speed at which it can be downloaded, so time is the only problem, but then everything takes time. If it can be better spent elsewhere, so be it, see to it! Go run in the park!

You just did, where you tried to trivialize my reasons for disagreeing, we all do this to some extent, the difference between you and I though is that I at least use evidence that you provide here, as I know you no other way, while you, I believe, find similarities between me and others you've encountered, and assume that all our reasoning, is the same, or so it would surely seem, because you're wrong more often than not.

Nope, I put my opinion forward about what you say and propose. I do not trivialise your reasons, I point out where and why I think them lacking the ability to achieve what you claim to wish.
Bull Shit! Your words attacked my reasons for such.

Oh and they are murderers, as they cause extinction, including themselves, yet they do not know this. They will though, that's for sure.

More end-of-time gnomic predictions.
It's always been about the lessons of Easter Island!

The lessons learned through not, also slows their own ultimate demise, something apparently above your head, as you've admittedly not gotten it, up higher in this this message, for instance. [/color]

We're all going to die so unless you think these 'others' are going to die from these events within the next few decades then I think you're cries will fall upon deaf ears. What is needed is concrete policies to help these peoples economic conditions now.
And until the morons, such as yourself, stop yacking about it and actually put it into motion, we, that at least do something, shall continue feeding them, as they cannot go years without food! The morons that think they know a better way should either shit or get off the pot.

What ever suits your selfish needs. You see, as I've already said in this forum, in other threads, the last good war that the US was involved in, was WWII. ...

lmao! One that the US only entered due to their own selfish needs, i.e. power in the Pacific. Otherwise the US would have carried on trading with the Nazi quite happily.
You've got your facts all wrong, ever hear of PEARL HARBOR? Which is the only reason we entered the war. We didn't choose to join into your fucking crap, we were drug into it, by the Japanese. They walked hard on us sleeping giants, and we whacked them with our big stick. Walking softly, carrying a big stick, while being a sleeping giant, is all the US should ever have been, in my book. Every since WWII the US walks hard everywhere, with their big stick for all to see, surely no reason to be proud of a country.

That there were two quotes that were coined in that time that spells out what I mean. One was an American and the other an Englishman. The American said that the US should 'walk softly and carry a big stick,' while the Englishman said that he was afraid that they had, "awoken a sleeping giant;" the US. ...

It was a Japanese admiral who said the latter. The former pretty much expresses the policy that the US had towards the Nazi and if Jap had not attacked you you'd still have been walking softly.
Stop professing to be a mind-reader a fortuneteller, you have no way of knowing this. But you are correct as to Yamamoto saying the latter, my mistake.

In both quotes, I see the ONLY way that the US should carry itself, then I could feel no guilt, but this is not the case. You've had me all wrong from the beginning, par for your course, as I've said. You think me a mindless yank. You are wrong, I hate the US most for not always being the leader, in everything, where the self interests of money don't trump what's morally right. I am not a person of any country, I am a person of the earth, the one singular organism, the symbiosis, that is ALL life on this planet, and I judge any constituent accordingly, I don't give a fuck who they are. The only thing important to me is the singular organisms health.

I don't think you a mindless yank, I think you an example of a certain type of Yank who oft visits this forum when you try to categorise me by gender and deride academic endeavour such as to enable you to belittle anothers thoughts.
Wrong on all counts, except that your thoughts are pretty much screwed up.


Whilst I like the sentiment I think it ignores the conditions. All life on this planet pretty much eats the one below. All the organisms together do not make one singular organism.
And that's where you're wrong! They most certainly do! That we are at the top, of these ecosystems makes it our responsibility to maintain balance, not ensure it's not, as that ensures our demise. Evolution is my proof. You know of Darwin right?

Thanks for "appear," it is a moment of your truth in conflict, an impartial statement, where you admittedly cannot know, giving the benefit of doubt, where I sense you'd like me to clarify, so as you may know, and I thank you for these brief moments where you are honest and fair. As I said above, I don't give a fuck who you are, I only care about the one organism, that is the symbiosis, earth! Because, where it's multitudes of spheres that balance are destabilized, it shall all surely die.

So you now understand why the poacher does what he does and understand that it's economics?
Not at all, it's bullshit! I have never not understood their reasoning, it's just that it's unsound reasoning; ‘to ensure there's no tomorrow, due to the rashness of the day,’ is just plain stupid. Farming horns is a far better idea. Better yet, stop fucking and move, or stop creating drought conditions, and use contraceptives. Build vertical, self sustained, automated greenhouses, wind farms, solar arrays. There's all kinds of possibilities in this day and age.

Two few words to remember what we're talking about, so I'll skip this one, I've already spent hours on this message, don't feel like opening another window to check. Refresh my memory if you care to, otherwise...

You don't think the mind is a time-machine with respect to present behaviour.
Come on, you'd have to be more specific, time machine in what context? No way to change the past, which you want to hold everyone accountable for. I'm the one that said that today's understanding is based upon the follies of yesterday. Such that if one changes they can't be held accountable for what caused them to do so. It's a learning curve, born out of initial ignorance. Sorry, but I see that HONEST ignorance IS a valid excuse, within limits of course.

Same as above, just too lazy, all this has been replied to from memory, care not to look it up, need to get some things done today.

How you act today based upon past events can be changed by the time-machine that is the mind.
No need for time machine metaphor, as no time is traveled, just memory juxtaposed to new data as teacher.

I was calling you out, with your solution, being somewhat sarcastic, as I see the mess as requiring a MAJOR revision. Where money has no meaning. You and I both know that humanity, any time soon, can't see their way to relinquish their illusory wealth, even though it's not to be found in a glittering prize, as most are still monkey-boys. Intelligent, my ass!!!!

Driven by circumstance!! The gains in health, wealth and education have not been illusory. And like it or not.compared to all the other systems it's been the capitalist system that has provided the greatest advances for the many.
But then you assume that because that's the way it just so happened to manifest, that it's the only way it could have, or could continue. And you assume that these things that you state are good things, are necessarily so; from what perspective? Does selfishness have to drive EVERY GOD DAMN THING MAN ENDEAVORS??? I do believe that sacrifice is much nobler, than selfishness. While selfishness is OK, in some circumstances, it's not always so. There has to be a balance between those two extremes as well.

Change, is not something humanity likes, unless they can see their profit in it, and even then, they hate unknown territory, and allow it to fall through the cracks of habitual nominalism (my word, not medieval philosophy, just the status quo of being nominal).

Humanity is change and it's if they can see an advantage in it not just a profit.
Bull shit, you're speaking of a bygone era; it’s not true anymore. Today it's all about money, because living is to damned easy, in the current push button world. People no longer have to struggle to survive.

Bullshit, some help is better than none. Only a fool sees that their method is better, while not being instituted, while that which has been, does some good. All or nothing for you? A fools game!

A winners game.
Not at all, just a fool, as meanwhile people are starving. When one human is starving, there can be no winners.

Why argue it then. Because I pegged you correctly, you are a country elitist, "Arising_uk," as evidenced by this response of yours and your constant engaging Bob with similar country oriented bullshit. ...

I've already told you twice now about how I came by my nik.
Yes and I'm saying you are not being honest about it. As In: To late to nymshift, due to understanding that comes with age, as too many associated posts will be lost, better to make up a story, so as to mask the original intent, while maintaining the nym, (persona), and it's original, now secret, meaning can be chuckled about from time to time, when you're feeling extra spiteful, regression, if you will.


My response was to your acclamation of the US's food contributions. Pots and kettles methinks.
Apples and oranges, makes no difference. I think you are in denial, you believe you and your countrymen are superior. Crap in one of our earliest conversations where I called you arrogant, you said, "of course I am, I'm English." Just fess up already! You should have made it complete and used Arisen_UK instead. Arising makes it sound like you're still in the process, while arisen sounds like you're already at the top.

We are a planet I tell you, you can take your colorful rags and burn them for all I care, stick them up your ass, that's a good idea, as your pride it them side steps the real issues of the world. The only, ‘us and them’ are the good guys and the bad guys, which know no territorially lines. The good are for the one organism, and the bad are monkey-boys, still arguing on who gets the biggest slice, oblivious to their world crumbling around them.

We are not a planet, at best we are a part of a biosphere which is a small smear upon the planet. The planet was here long before and will be here long after this current biosphere ceases to exist. This planet has had several ice-planet stages and presumably several biospheres and if we fuck this one up for us it'll still have a biosphere without us as life evolves. The real issue of the 'world' is exactly what you display, us and them. All you are doing is taking the same territorially and making it abstract.
Bull shit and you know it. It really only ever boiled down to the good and the bad (evil). It's just so easy for the sake of conversation to say those damn Brits, those damn Yanks, those damn christians, or those damn muslims, when in fact it was only ever those damn "EVIL" brits, yanks, christians, or muslims. In the end it all boils down to those that want to live and let live (the good) and those that want to live and kill (the bad). And both these types can be found in any god damned territory anywhere. And of course there are many synonyms for both good and bad, like giving, sacrificial, honest, and trustworthy, for the good, and thieving, selfish, dishonest, and untrustworthy for the bad. And as soon as we can dispense with all this territorial crap, the sooner we can get down to the real business of the matter, sending the evil fucks to the rework facility.

Look, if you feel like not engaging me on any particular point until you do more research, so be it. It is always hard to engage another's obscure statistics, as their counter may not even be available. I would hope I would not be childish enough, to rub ones inability to find opposing data, in their face, as if it could be seen as some sort of shallow victory.

Goggle is free to all(well maybe not the Chinese).
Yes, you gotta feel sorry for those people, huh?

Sure but what is trust for? My "major" concern when giving to charities, was to ensure that the majority of the money actually went to the aid and not to paying those, supposedly, ensuring people are actually helped. So that is the research I undertook. I found those whose overhead was slight in contrast to their affect as to the cause. Again, we all balance our own lives against helping others to varying degrees, as capable in the time allotted. Who doesn't wish they were omnipresent and omnipotent?

Admirable but you were talking about food aid I thought? if you are talking about money to the WWF then I'll return to the issue that these animals still appear to be going extinct as it's the economics of poverty and no amount of money will be able to match the value the market is putting upon these creatures. So if you want them around for the future then you'd better start promoting a better market for them.
I've given to two charities, the World Wide Fund for Nature, formerly named the World Wildlife Fund, which remains its official name in Canada and the United States. and the ChildFund, formerly known as China's Children Fund and the Christian Children's Fund.

So you say! I live in my head, or at least I'd like to live there, with at least, some sense of ease. Does it then translate to the reality that I'm forced to live with, NO!!!! But If I don't try, nothing will ever change, now will it? All I can do, with such a thing, that everyone "buys" into, to suit their own needs, and wants/desires, as it's what was presented to them at birth, knowing no other way, is to get them to think about other possibilities, where everyone really cares for one another, "and you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the world will live as one." No need to tell you who wrote that, I would hope, one of my hero's! Yours? Probably not! Or so it would seem.

Loved the Beatles and thought him an idiot for going to live in America but his tax-accountants told him to and look where that got him.
Another flawed thought, as it wasn't America that screwed him, it was a nut-job, which unfortunately can be found anywhere. There is nowhere to hide.


You want to teach the world to sing? Give them a living so they have a chance to sing. Otherwise it's all hippy dreams.
There you go again assuming me omnipresent and omnipotent. As a teacher, if you be telling the truth, you have much more ability to help those of which we speak, than I do. I have removed myself from society due to suffering from PTSD and anxiety since being a 4yo, that seems to have overtaken me, now that all children have grown up, leaving me with no mission in life, except to die, or so it would surely seem. Let the vultures commence!

[SpheresOfBalance]

Arising, i thought you the man but you seam sob's biatch.

did your testicles 'fall off"

huge posts of SHIT

Who the fuck are you to judge. We've been wearing each other down for two years now, newbie. If we seem to bother with it, or not, it's only ever our business. I'm sure that Arising will ignore me, if the novelty wears off; same here.

I think I contribute a fair amount of the time, despite it going over your head. Hey, I can't help everyone, all the time.

Speak in Prill-Parables again, Pee-Pee for short, it's fun to watch you mumble, I can picture the drool running down your chin. Drool???

[Hjarloprillar]

Arising, i thought you the man but you seam sob's biatch.

did your testicles 'fall off"

huge posts of SHIT

Who the fuck are you to judge. We've been wearing each other down for two years now, newbie. If we seem to bother with it, or not, it's only ever our business. I'm sure that Arising will ignore me, if the novelty wears off; same here.

I think I contribute a fair amount of the time, despite it going over your head. Hey, I can't help everyone, all the time.

Speak in Prill-Parables again, Pee-Pee for short, it's fun to watch you mumble, I can picture the drool running down your chin. Drool???

i threw that in pot to see reaction.. arising wins hands down. That why i hit on him not you. [operational strategy dude]
his reply is consise and of worth

good try.
it would work if your iq was greater than mine.. which it is not...


you are just another wannabe intellectual [educated beyond his intelligence]
when i was digging holes for water and thinking Nietzsche. you were working in cubicle .
little brother.

i love the net. but face to face would be better.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Arising, i thought you the man but you seam sob's biatch.

did your testicles 'fall off"

huge posts of SHIT

Who the fuck are you to judge. We've been wearing each other down for two years now, newbie. If we seem to bother with it, or not, it's only ever our business. I'm sure that Arising will ignore me, if the novelty wears off; same here.

I think I contribute a fair amount of the time, despite it going over your head. Hey, I can't help everyone, all the time.

Speak in Prill-Parables again, Pee-Pee for short, it's fun to watch you mumble, I can picture the drool running down your chin. Drool???

i threw that in pot to see reaction.. arising wins hands down.
If your belief mattered, you might have something there, but it doesn't. No one pays attention to posers that merely cheer-lead!

That why i hit on him not you. [operational strategy dude]
his reply is consise and of worth

good try.
it would work if your iq was greater than mine.. which it is not...

Mine's 146, test only taken once, never seen the questions before taking it that one time.
What's yours?
(of course I'm aware that a liar's shall always be higher)

you are just another wannabe intellectual [educated beyond his intelligence]
when i was digging holes for water and thinking Nietzsche. you were working in cubicle .
little brother.

i love the net. but face to face would be better.
I thought you had ass-burgers, you're sipping (sorry, "slipping.")

Sorry Prill, I can be so silly sometimes, I just realized it's spelled: "aspbergers."

I love self promoters, they make me laugh, and I mean a great big belly laugh! They're always extremely adept, when it cums to auto erotica.