No Missing Link

[Godfree]

metadata godfee.
sampling has over 60 % thinking my position is true.
I made position from education
60% know this and admit less education.

im not above any i am them.

someone has to lead.
"if you want a job done right do it yourself"
doing so is accepting responsibility for millions
i will wear that

im the guy.

A very good example of your posting , I'm struggling to get the relevance between the previous post and your comments ,
I expect people to be able to read between the lines , and maybe put in the odd missing word or two ,
you seem to expect us to read entire novels between the lines ,
the story is already of on some other tangent and we the readers have no idea where you have gone , or why ,
I know I'm hard work mate , but I'm childs play compared to you ,,!!!

[SpheresOfBalance]

"They did have it for centuries - especially the 15th, 16th and 20th. Nobody won, so they're having more of it. The thing about that battle, though: it's not over facts. It's about power. Whatever evidence you show to somebody who wants to stay in control that they're incompetent, they won't accept it. A drunk won't refrain from driving; a senile surgeon won't stop operating; a mad king won't abdicate; a CEO who has lost $millions won't step down; a general whose tanks are floundering in mud won't order retreat. Popes, ayatollahs, chief rabbis and millionaire televangelists are not going to give up leading masses of people around by rings through their frontal lobes - nor all the pomp and toadies, costumes, photo sessions and speechifying, bullet-proof limos, fawning heads of state, choir-boys and other tasty morsels that go with being boss.

The only way religion will ever lose its hold is through people's common sense. But that means relinquishing the dreams of heaven, the hope of a nice life somewhere else after a miserable one on earth... We could achieve that by giving everyone a nice life on earth (We could, but won't.) What we cannot do is talk people out of the delusion of exclusive righteousness that religions confer on their believers. "

A brilliant rant.
Every so often one comes across a like mind of great power.

i just did

Great Stuff!

[SpheresOfBalance]

Any person who can think rationally can see the absurdities of most religions. You don't even need scientific proof. Fortunately science clears a lot of misconceptions like the creation theory that talks about first parents in the garden of Eden and its literal understanding.
Life and the universe is a mystery. Why don't we live the mystery instead of getting carried away by what religions say. Also everything in nature follows its nature i.e. it's innate tendencies and instincts. We human beings need to follow our innate nature i.e. our tendencies to compassion, social living, rational thinking, imagination etc. Why do we need religion to tell us what to do?

We don't , the question is ,
"how do we lose our religion"
how do we get governments to stop funding the madness ,
that would be a good start , if they couldn't get funding , survival of the fittest would become real ,
but because governments fund religion and mine anyway refuses to fund Atheism ,
religion is artificially propped up , a bit like saving a bank thats gone bankcrupt ,
in the real world religion should have died a miserable death centuries ago ,
it's only because governments fund it that it is kept going ,
laws are past to protect and ensure the survival of religion ,
and all the while they are refusing to fund Atheism , and ,, claim to be secular ,
somethings not right there , we can't be both secular and funding religion , thats corrupt ,
and of course america is , and thats the problem , religion is in control ...

It takes time GF, look how far we've come, as Prill pointed out. We live in a time where you really don't have to be afraid to say that which you have said. It will come, I don't know if you or I will necessarily be alive then, but it shall come.

[SpheresOfBalance]

metadata godfee.
sampling has over 60 % thinking my position is true.
I made position from education
60% know this and admit less education.

im not above any i am them.

someone has to lead.
"if you want a job done right do it yourself"
doing so is accepting responsibility for millions
i will wear that

im the guy.

A very good example of your posting , I'm struggling to get the relevance between the previous post and your comments ,
I expect people to be able to read between the lines , and maybe put in the odd missing word or two ,
you seem to expect us to read entire novels between the lines ,
the story is already of on some other tangent and we the readers have no idea where you have gone , or why ,
I know I'm hard work mate , but I'm childs play compared to you ,,!!!

It's how he spins the web of illusion as to his greater intellect. If you can't follow his novel of, "Many Missing Pages," he believes it makes him more intelligent, and you the fool. Here you go godfree...

OK Prill, what am I thinking right 'now?'
No sorry, you missed it, I guess that makes you an idiot, and me a superhuman! Huh Prill? (Just kidding you buddy!)

See how it works Godfree?

Just screwing around people, "no reason to get excited, the thief he kindly spoke, there are many here among us, who feel that life is but a joke, but you and I we've been through that, and this is not our fate, so let us not talk falsely now, the hour's getting late."

[Kuznetzova]

During our childhood, we are vulnerable, because we are mentally developing. We lacked the full abilities and experience to make the right decisions. So most religions are there to provide some sort of discipline that is easy to understand based upon the simple thoughts of a child, until they are mentally mature enough to find other reasons to do things.

When you become an adult some things are supposed to happen. What is supposed to happen is not going deeper into the wooded hollers of Appalachia with your bible and speaking in tongues at a church revival. What is supposed to happen, as an adult, is your are supposed to read a little about European history. And when you read, you discover that Christianity was the underpinnings of 700 years of bloodshed, war, perpetual violence, and persecution. That the Protestant reformation disintegrated Germany into warring fiefdoms of protestant and catholic princes. You are supposed to discover that Charlemagne burnt villages to the ground in his attempt to "Christianize" pagans. (I'm talking women and children stomped flat by cavalry divisions). You are supposed to learn that Sweden did not turn to Christianity until the 10th century.

As an adult you are supposed to see the larger picture, which is that religion was used as a tool to keep the peasants of the feudal period in a constant state of impoverished servility. You are supposed to find out that the latin vulgate was not translated into German vernacular until the 16th century, (which was, count 'um two hundreds years after the Italian renaissance.) Why does this late date matter? Because it indicts the entire elite upper class of Europe as not giving a rats ass about the literacy or spiritual journey of their peasant subjects.

That's what is supposed to happen when you become an adult. Unfortunately, in many cases this never happens, and the fundamentalist is trapped in a childish limbo.

[Godfree]

A very good example of your posting , I'm struggling to get the relevance between the previous post and your comments ,
I expect people to be able to read between the lines , and maybe put in the odd missing word or two ,
you seem to expect us to read entire novels between the lines ,
the story is already of on some other tangent and we the readers have no idea where you have gone , or why ,
I know I'm hard work mate , but I'm childs play compared to you ,,!!![/quote]
It's how he spins the web of illusion as to his greater intellect. If you can't follow his novel of, "Many Missing Pages," he believes it makes him more intelligent, and you the fool. Here you go godfree...

OK Prill, what am I thinking right 'now?'
No sorry, you missed it, I guess that makes you an idiot, and me a superhuman! Huh Prill? (Just kidding you buddy!)

See how it works Godfree?

Just screwing around people, "no reason to get excited, the thief he kindly spoke, there are many here among us, who feel that life is but a joke, but you and I we've been through that, and this is not our fate, so let us not talk falsely now, the hour's getting late."[/quote]

I like Jimmies version , All Along The Watchtower ,
Bob was such a basic unit ,I used to say of bob ,
if you ever find a melody ?? , stick with it ,
and thank you for the recognition of Hjars tactics ,
I do know a few swats who are similar ,
for someone who doesn't read , I think I hold my own against the likes of Hjar.

[Godfree]

During our childhood, we are vulnerable, because we are mentally developing. We lacked the full abilities and experience to make the right decisions. So most religions are there to provide some sort of discipline that is easy to understand based upon the simple thoughts of a child, until they are mentally mature enough to find other reasons to do things.

When you become an adult some things are supposed to happen. What is supposed to happen is not going deeper into the wooded hollers of Appalachia with your bible and speaking in tongues at a church revival. What is supposed to happen, as an adult, is your are supposed to read a little about European history. And when you read, you discover that Christianity was the underpinnings of 700 years of bloodshed, war, perpetual violence, and persecution. That the Protestant reformation disintegrated Germany into warring fiefdoms of protestant and catholic princes. You are supposed to discover that Charlemagne burnt villages to the ground in his attempt to "Christianize" pagans. (I'm talking women and children stomped flat by cavalry divisions). You are supposed to learn that Sweden did not turn to Christianity until the 10th century.

As an adult you are supposed to see the larger picture, which is that religion was used as a tool to keep the peasants of the feudal period in a constant state of impoverished servility. You are supposed to find out that the latin vulgate was not translated into German vernacular until the 16th century, (which was, count 'um two hundreds years after the Italian renaissance.) Why does this late date matter? Because it indicts the entire elite upper class of Europe as not giving a rats ass about the literacy or spiritual journey of their peasant subjects.

That's what is supposed to happen when you become an adult. Unfortunately, in many cases this never happens, and the fundamentalist is trapped in a childish limbo.

Full marks my dear , I find your venom a lot more appropriate when pointed at religion ,
I put in a letter to my Prime Minister Then Helen Clark ,
"As one of the few adults in this world I find it tiring to be continually surrounded by children ",
that was in a letter sent to her to try and get some action on changing the charitable trust laws ,
I suggested religion should be seen as the same as prostitution or gambling ,
a popular but undesirable activity that should be taxed to the max .
Great post ,
have you checked out Skeptics vrs Atheists ,
I see this as a the reason why people are complacent ,
Skeptics may say "we don't believe in god"
but they don't believe in getting rid of it either ,
so they might as well be a religious fundamentalist ,
because they are helping to maintain the status quo .

[Kuznetzova]

Yes.

The "children" should leave the room for a while so the "adults" can talk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden

[SpheresOfBalance]

A very good example of your posting , I'm struggling to get the relevance between the previous post and your comments ,
I expect people to be able to read between the lines , and maybe put in the odd missing word or two ,
you seem to expect us to read entire novels between the lines ,
the story is already of on some other tangent and we the readers have no idea where you have gone , or why ,
I know I'm hard work mate , but I'm childs play compared to you ,,!!!

It's how he spins the web of illusion as to his greater intellect. If you can't follow his novel of, "Many Missing Pages," he believes it makes him more intelligent, and you the fool. Here you go godfree...

OK Prill, what am I thinking right 'now?'
No sorry, you missed it, I guess that makes you an idiot, and me a superhuman! Huh Prill? (Just kidding you buddy!)

See how it works Godfree?

Just screwing around people, "no reason to get excited, the thief he kindly spoke, there are many here among us, who feel that life is but a joke, but you and I we've been through that, and this is not our fate, so let us not talk falsely now, the hour's getting late."[/quote]

I like Jimmies version , All Along The Watchtower ,
Bob was such a basic unit ,I used to say of bob ,
if you ever find a melody ?? , stick with it ,
and thank you for the recognition of Hjars tactics ,
I do know a few swats who are similar ,
for someone who doesn't read , I think I hold my own against the likes of Hjar.[/quote]
There is no other, but Jimi's version, (I was actually listening during the writing). Bob wrote it, but Jimi made it bad assed!

[Godfree]

Yes.

The "children" should leave the room for a while so the "adults" can talk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden

History shows us that christainity , is ,,, insanity ,
and the crusades the most insane period of modern history , in my opinion ,
one of the massacres I remember was the North American Indian
I don't recall if it was the Apache or who but there was not many left and they had been hunted down by the white settlers , they finally stopped and began to pray , asked their god to save them ,
the whites showed no mercy and gunned the lot to death .
That story tells me two things ,those white people were prejudice and ignorant ,
and there is no god ,,!!!

[Hjarloprillar]

Yes.

The "children" should leave the room for a while so the "adults" can talk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden

History shows us that christainity , is ,,, insanity ,
and the crusades the most insane period of modern history , in my opinion ,
one of the massacres I remember was the North American Indian
I don't recall if it was the Apache or who but there was not many left and they had been hunted down by the white settlers , they finally stopped and began to pray , asked their god to save them ,
the whites showed no mercy and gunned the lot to death .
That story tells me two things ,those white people were prejudice and ignorant ,
and there is no god [that watches over] there is a designer,,!!!

[Godfree]

Yes.

The "children" should leave the room for a while so the "adults" can talk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden

History shows us that christainity , is ,,, insanity ,
and the crusades the most insane period of modern history , in my opinion ,
one of the massacres I remember was the North American Indian
I don't recall if it was the Apache or who but there was not many left and they had been hunted down by the white settlers , they finally stopped and began to pray , asked their god to save them ,
the whites showed no mercy and gunned the lot to death .
That story tells me two things ,those white people were prejudice and ignorant ,
and there is no god [that watches over] there is a designer,,!!!

Hjar ,,,what the fuck ,, a designer , is this an intelligent designer ,,???
you mean after all those confused attempts to convince us your not completely insane ,
your going to come out and completely destroy your efforts with ,
"there is a designer"